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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 28, 2007 14:57:40 GMT -5
Well let's see, RVD caught with weed = suspension. Orton rolling a joint backstage = suspension. They both came back after their suspension and were involved in chasing the title on the brand that they were on. Seems pretty similar to me. True. Except when you get to the point where they were to get their World title payoff. Orton got his. RVD got to feud with Bob Holly and job to a heatless Test. is it Randy Orton's fault that he was on Raw instead of ECW? RVD feuding with Bob Holly and Test on ECW when both were technically in the main event scene. As for the World Title payoff, Orton didn't refuse to renegotiate a new contract. Maybe if RVD had decided to stick around then he would be getting title shots right now.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 28, 2007 14:58:59 GMT -5
Wasn't RVD sort of burned out on wrestling and didn't want to come back? At least that's the explanation I heard. If so, he shouldn't come back until he's ready to go at 100 percent again.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 28, 2007 16:28:08 GMT -5
There is definately a double standard when it comes to how the WWE reacts to real life "incidents". RVD gets stripped of the titles and suspended over a very minor incident in which he wasn't even handcuffed. However, when "homegrown" talent like Orton does things that he would have been arrested for had the cops been there, he gets to stay home for a while and pushed to the moon on return. Well let's see, RVD caught with weed = suspension. Orton rolling a joint backstage = suspension. They both came back after their suspension and were involved in chasing the title on the brand that they were on. Seems pretty similar to me. Yeah Orton was suspended without pay. Not like it mattered much as the suspension gave him time to actually get married and buy a new house. RVD was also suspended without pay, but when he did come back he was instantly plugged into a fued with the Big Show. Upon news of him leaving, RVD and thE Originals fought the new breed, putting the younger wrestlers over in an extreme rules match. Then later putting over Orton, even though RVD won the match Orton looked like a star afterwards as he "killed the legend of RVD" Orton didn't get the cruddy treatment? You must be blind he was completely dominated in the D-X fued, he was the guy who often took the fall in multi-man matches, and it was only recently when he broke up with Edge, where he was only recently built back up with being Mr. Concussion Kick. Otherwise he was paying his dues "although main eventing" again. RVD got shoddy treatment and just wanted to quit, he's always wanted out and now he's out. RVD got caught by cops, not only for having marijuana, but also for driving under the influence. That's the thing DUI, then it was all over the internet, he even got out of the car with his shirt unbuttoned. He made SABU say his name is SABU... For most of 2006, right up until Edge left RAW, Orton was getting JTTS treatment. That's the truth. RVD got in trouble when Wellness was established, same with Kurt Angle. Not suspending RVD and SABU, would have set a bad example and really make wellness look bunk. Not like TNA doesn't anyways with offering jobs to wellness offenders
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Nov 28, 2007 17:46:00 GMT -5
it should be High_Way_420
if he returns he needs to come back WWE
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 28, 2007 20:19:02 GMT -5
Bob Marley died of cancer which originated in the skin of his big toe. I'm focusing on your "just as bad and addictive as cigarettes" thing, which was wrong. Potheads are called potheads for a reason because they addicted. Just like Cigarrettes, alcohol, and other things. it's a vice. Just because Snoop Dog and RVD smoke trees, doesn't mean it's actually a good wholesome activity devoid of any consequences. I never saw the point in Making RVD basically Chronic. I mean why not just put a Marijuana Leaf on his singlet and all that. oh I know who i sound like. drugs are bad mmkay Potheads are called potheads because they really like weed, not because they're addicted. It's like chocoholics or people who run a lot. The problem here isn't your over-exaggeration of what weed is, it's that by comparing it to alcohol and cigarettes, you're insulting everyone who has or has known someone who DIED of illnesses related to those two things. Alcohol -- 75,000 deaths a year. Cigarettes -- 400,000 deaths a year. You are being unspeakably ignorant by putting marijuana in a related class.
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 29, 2007 1:50:09 GMT -5
Oh if Marijuana was LEgal you'd see those same numbers.
that's why you can't compare legal poison to illegal poison, and say that the illegal poison isn't as harmful.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 30, 2007 0:50:25 GMT -5
Oh if Marijuana was LEgal you'd see those same numbers. that's why you can't compare legal poison to illegal poison, and say that the illegal poison isn't as harmful. Explain your reasoning. And try to avoid epic portions of logical fallacy.
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Post by nate5054 on Nov 30, 2007 1:18:14 GMT -5
RVD got caught by cops, not only for having marijuana, but also for driving under the influence. I don't believe he did, although if you could point me to an article that says otherwise I'll take it for its worth. IIRC, he plead guilty to possession and was fined $140. I got a speeding ticket a year ago and had to pay $120 when all was said and done. Does this mean I only was $20 less bad in the eyes of the law than Van Dam?
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Post by nate5054 on Nov 30, 2007 1:18:56 GMT -5
Oh if Marijuana was LEgal you'd see those same numbers. that's why you can't compare legal poison to illegal poison, and say that the illegal poison isn't as harmful. I don't think the number of deaths would rise. However, I'm sure there would be more people out there listening to negro jazz music and raping white women.
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Nov 30, 2007 1:28:02 GMT -5
I'd just like to chime in and say RVD's my favorite wrestler. He's the whole f'n show, Mr. Monday Night, Mr. Pay-Per-View, and your favorite wrestler!
I agree that he got treated unfairly after the weed bust. Especially now, when practically half the main-eventers got 30 day wellness suspensions.
It was wise for RVD to take some time off, and I hope he'll come back and kick some ass soon.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 30, 2007 3:22:35 GMT -5
Current status: Still awesome. As someone else stated before, I just want him to come back and be treated like a damned main-eventer, for two reasons really. Reason one being that he's my favorite wrestler and I sorely miss him. Reason two? Because it'll piss off all the people that go out of their way to post in RVD threads just to whine about him.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Nov 30, 2007 3:49:37 GMT -5
Here here. Rob rules..end of story.
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Post by Loki on Nov 30, 2007 5:08:22 GMT -5
He may not come back at all for all I care...
Oh and if half of his interviews are legit and if Triple H has a quarter of the power RVD hints he has, don't expect Rob to be back in WWE, unless it's for a jobbing tour.
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