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Post by The Barber on Apr 11, 2018 21:04:22 GMT -5
I do not buy the 'TNA salted the earth for wrestling on TV.' Wrestling does not attract lucrative advertisers, that is and will always be the reason most stations want nothing to do with the sport, it was a problem before TNA and remains a huge problem now. TNA's relationship with Spike was so acrimonious toward the end, they got months worth of contract extensions that gave them enough time to find a new home. As for fans being justified wanting TNA closed. No, at this point everyone responsible for the vast majority of TNA's issues are gone from positions of power, Dixie, Jarrett (it amazes me how quickly all his sins have been wiped away since he made nice with the WWE), Russo, Hogan, Bischoff, even the six sided ring is gone. Wanting the company to die now is just something people want out of spite, but that's the wrestling fanbase for you. Wrestling is not the in thing right now. It’s not very popular and due to all the free content every week on television it’s oversaturated right now. If wrestling was hot again and there was a promotion that could deliver decent content weekly that could do ratings then networks would be fighting for it. I don’t see that happening any time soon. As for Spike, they have rebranded to become the Paramount Network. They want to be considered to be the same kind of network as an AMC now, so I think wrestling is off their radar altogether, whether wrestling would be popular again or not. People that are so outspoken about wanting TNA to close feels like hate speech to me. I was attending live independent shows during the early years of TNA. If TNA talent appeared on those shows the chants of “F**k TNA” would be the loudest chants of the night. This wasn’t one show. This happened at dozens of shows I attended. It became commonplace. Since then TNA has undergone a lot of changes. Too many to keep up with honestly. They’ve had some horrible management and made some very irresponsible decisions. I was all in favor of having the people responsible being removed from their positions of power. From what I understand they have been since. I can certainly understand the frustration that comes with hearing about the past mistakes and incompetence of TNA but I’m not in favor of a bunch of people being out of a job. A new company isn’t going to suddenly appear to employ those out of work. I’ve seen people use some sort of fantasy land logic to suggest TNA closing would make room for something else. That’s just not going to happen. People losing their jobs is something I will never cheer for. Job security and an income are very important in life. It’s why I never knocked Shane Douglas, Jesse Neal, Justin Credible or anyone else when they sought other avenues for an income other than wrestling. Sometimes I wonder about the individuals who call for such things. I see people on the internet say how a wrestler should refuse to do something that they, as a “fan”, do not aprove of. I wonder if those people realize how a boss / employee relationship works or if those people are or have ever been employed at all. Those people who do give the negative stigmas of wrestling fans some merit.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 10, 2018 20:41:43 GMT -5
No, they are not. I think it is misplaced vitriol towards Impact. I'm not the biggest Impact fan, but the more wrestling shows we have, the better the whole product is for everyone. Demonstrably wrong. Impact's shit has tainted a lot of other wrestling company's. Impact's utter failure as a television property has actively soured other tv sources on wrestling. They are a net negative drain on the business. The low ad rates have affected wresting more than Impact ever has.
If what you said was true, then you'd blame Impact for CW, WGN, SyFy and others for cancelling WWE, am I right?
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Post by The Barber on Apr 10, 2018 19:33:03 GMT -5
Tweety is a beloved pet, Jerry is a squatting home invader. You are right. Tweety is a beloved pet of Granny. Jerry is a pest that Tom has to get rid of.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 10, 2018 19:24:39 GMT -5
No, they are not. I think it is misplaced vitriol towards Impact. I'm not the biggest Impact fan, but the more wrestling shows we have, the better the whole product is for everyone.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 8, 2018 6:10:03 GMT -5
I actually thought 1999 was a great year for film, but to each their own. I agree with the majority that the early 2000s were an awkward time in pop culture. I dunno if it was 9/11 fallout or what, but 2002-2006 was weird. Coincidentally my High School years. The 9-11 fallout really did affect pop culture in not so good ways.
The Nipplegate fallout made 2004 really boring.
The point being...the Bush years weren't great for anybody.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 8, 2018 4:31:45 GMT -5
I know many people consider it a beloved classic, but I have to say it: Wayne's World. The central conflict is about the two idiot protagonists signing a contract without reading it. The oh-so-terrible thing this contract requires them to do is...advertise for their sponsors, which is the most basic principle of entertainment media. Our heroes decide instead that it's a good idea to respond to this by insulting their sponsors, the people giving them money, on the air. And the movie ends on a non-sequitor. If I remember correctly, they bought the show to ruin it or something like that.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 8, 2018 4:13:39 GMT -5
Martha is beyond reasoning. Hate to say it. Owen will get in when she finally croaks. She's 51, so don't hold your breath for that induction then. One thing I never got: Miss Elizabeth is also not in the Hall of Fame for the exact same reason as Owen, her family doesn't want anything to do with the company. If we're being honest, she's at least on par with Owen in terms of what they contributed to the company overall/name recognition (Aside from a 6 month span in 1994, Owen was a midcarder. A very talented midcarder worthy of the HoF, but a midcarder nevertheless). I'd say she's actually higher up on the WWE's own list, considering Stephanie is on record as saying she idolized Elizabeth when she was growing up. Yet her family gets pretty much none of the vitriol that Martha Hart gets. Miss Elizabeth was way more over in her time than Owen Hart ever was.
BTW, I might be in the minority, but I agree with Martha Hart.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 3, 2018 20:59:36 GMT -5
I think hundreds of current indy workers would settle for Virgil like career. Guy was a decoration on the every main stage for over 15 years playing with the big boys. Nobody wants to have Virgil's career. The dumb f*** negotiated less money with wcw just to appear on tv. There are wrestlers who went to ECW and worked for free. Virgil did have that for 1991-heat standards, but Virgil is still somehow the LEAST Hall of Fame deserving "Put upon lackey finally is fed up and comes into his own to beat up their overbearing overlord." Daniel Bryan is a HOFer when he retires, of course. Damien Sandow was a memorable gimmick, and he did have MITB once and was "first to lose a called-in cashin", he could possibly go in one year. Hell, even Alex Riley has a puncher's chance just due to his role in GLOW. Virgil isn't even as Hall of Fame-worthy as Alex Riley. That should SAY SOMETHING. You honestly think the likes of Sandow and Riley should go into the Hall of Fame? Its suppose to be only for the elite of the elite, not everyone gets a trophy for participatingHave you paid attention to the WWE Hall Of Fame AT ALL? It's one gigantic 'participation trophy'. EVERYONE who ever worked in wrestling is eligible.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 1, 2018 1:27:53 GMT -5
WCW: Goldberg's 'script' problems.
ECW: The TNN Network angle.
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Post by The Barber on Apr 1, 2018 1:19:12 GMT -5
If only there was a man that inspired non-standard looking male wrestlers that deserves to go in...
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Post by The Barber on Mar 28, 2018 6:49:43 GMT -5
Jimmy Hart's Megaphone.
Bobby Heenan's Jackets.
Ric Flair's Robes.
Honky Tonk Man's Gee-Tar.
Cans of Steve-Weisers.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 27, 2018 5:48:39 GMT -5
I don't believe Vince was even close to showing up. I think Pritchard is lying.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 26, 2018 4:53:23 GMT -5
I did too. It was never appointment TV, but I watched it online.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 24, 2018 21:04:28 GMT -5
I must be the only one here who doesn't think they are that bad.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 24, 2018 21:00:06 GMT -5
I have no idea what he would call me. Anybody want to give it a shot? The Last FH Graduator Of The Old Millennium!
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Post by The Barber on Mar 24, 2018 5:30:09 GMT -5
The Barber Of Caked Beef!
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Post by The Barber on Mar 24, 2018 5:18:38 GMT -5
Cooter from The Dukes Of Hazzard. He was a bumbling schmuck in the first few episodes until they made him part of the crew.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 24, 2018 5:12:25 GMT -5
I'm genuinely curious what Mayberry would look like in 2018. The same, but with more black people.
Mayberry looked like a complete and utter bore. Hooterville looks like more fun.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 23, 2018 21:08:32 GMT -5
It boggles my mind how someone can take a moral high ground over a racist comment and be a body shaming ageist in the same paragraph. Three things I have learned over the last few years when it comes to social media is: 1) there is a statute of limitations on what to find offensive. 2) people who have no experience dealing with bigotry have free reign to lecture others on what is and is not offensive. 3) you can still pick on a certain group of individuals (old, men, fat/skinny, certain ethnicity, etc) as long as it is not as culturally relevant as the one you are standing up for. We have pretty much hit every one of those points with the Hogan debates. We have white people lecturing others on what is racist, we have people putting more weight on recency (Hogan) than on more prominent racism from the past (ex. Piper was accused of being racist a lot more than Hulk prior to the leaked audio), and now mocking someone because of his age (ageism) because it's not as important as race. I agree, if people are going to take moral high grounds, then you can't pick and choose your battles. You can't defend race but then hate women. You can't defend women but then be a racist. Well, technically you can, but you'd be a hypocrite. All of this ultimately leads to a question that no one has been able to answer: do you know who else is racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc? Vince McMahon. We have three decades worth of ACTIONS (not just words) to illustrate that. Yet, people have no issues using their mortgage payments to make Vince richer than he already is. So the question is, if social issues offend you so much that you want people with questionable character to be blackballed, then how can you possibly justify being a fan of not only pro wrestling, but the WWE in particular over the past 30 years? I've made my feelings known about Hogan. He is a guy I'd never want to hang out with, but prior to this (illegally recorded) audio, I don't recall a single time where he was accused of being a racist. So if the words he uses at home do not mesh with his actual actions, then I see no reason why he can't earn a living in his 60's if the WWE wants to use him. If it was the opposite, meaning he said all the right things but his actions were racist, then my view would be different. Words and actions are not the same, especially when the words are done privately. Anyone who has ever experienced racism (myself included) will tell you that. If you don't like Hulk and are offended by what he said, then that's cool. I guess based on my experiences it is easier to brush aside ignorant comments than hateful actions. I like how nobody quoted you because they know you are 100% correct.
I'm not excusing Bollea's actions because they are wrong (hell, Hulk Hogan wasn't the greatest role model, either. He would often whine when he lost), but I don't understand why it's ok for the IWC to forgive Vince McMahon, Shawn Michaels, AJ Styles, or anyone else in the wrestling industry for their nonsense.
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Post by The Barber on Mar 23, 2018 5:24:11 GMT -5
Steve Blackman first theme was recycled from the first Bad Blood PPV theme. At one time Marc Mero in the WWE and The Renegade in WCW used the same theme. Both the Hardy Boyz and Bob Holly used generic public domain (I think they are public domain) theme music.
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