Are fans justified in wanting to see Impact die?

[SirLucas]

You would hate to hear about people losing their jobs with any company going out of business. But, TNA/Impact is that the local neighborhood business that everyone remembers growing up. The one that was ridiculously underperforming that provided poor customer service which made you question why is the business taking retail space instead of someone else. It's the business you want to eventually see go away and hope for something better to be put in its place. 

Am I right? Is there a guilty pleasure in waiting for the day TNA/Impact is put out of its misery for good? 

[The Spelunker!]

Not for me. I’ve been a fan of theirs off and on since they lost their FSN deal and people thought that was it for them.

If anything, their continued survival is a company is bizarrely inspiring. They’ve had just about everything bad that could possibly happen to them, from terrible owners, to insane bookers, tons of no shows, massive financial troubles, losing multiple tv deals, watching all of your talent move on to greener pastures, and so on.

And yet they’re still here. That’s a lot of hard work and dedication of people that despite all the setbacks, despite all the bad decisions, despite all the vitriol, they’re still around, and maybe even back on an upswing?

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

To some I think it is,for me I just kind of follow the spoilers but I already written them off as ever being what we hopped they would been years ago. Its for me just watching the train wreck but some how that train never stops. If it ends, than what for us that been here making all the jokes each week of its mishaps.

[Hurbster]

I just think the the TNA sub-forum would be better served going to a bigger company now.

[Savage Gambino]

I wouldn't say people want to see Impact die so much have accepted it's inevitability.

To use your analogy, it's like walking into that underperforming, run down store and seeing the shelves empty. You're not necessarily happy about it, but you certainly aren't sad about it. You knew this would happen, and you made your peace with it a long time ago.

[DASH 243✅]

It was a guilty pleasure of mine. But lately they've been turning it around and the shows have been getting better. And the got rid of berto so they're fixing there mistakes.

[Deleted]

They were absoloutley justified before but now I think it is more grim interest now that they have sort of turned things around but still the sword of damaclease hangs and people and waiting for it to drop.

And sadly it probably will sooner than later because this company can't do anything without making dumpster fire choices no matter who runs it.

[Deleted]

At a point in time I'd say absolutely but at this point TNA's business model has changed so much that it's really not doing any harm to anyone. Maybe if they do some scummy shit again but they seem to be doing a good job of course correcting right now.

[The Barber]

No, they are not. I think it is misplaced vitriol towards Impact. I'm not the biggest Impact fan, but the more wrestling shows we have, the better the whole product is for everyone.

[Milkman Norm]

No. There are very few cases where you can be justified wanting people to lose their jobs. This is not one of those cases.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Apr 10, 2018 19:24:39 GMT -5 The Barber said:

No, they are not. I think it is misplaced vitriol towards Impact. I'm not the biggest Impact fan, but the more wrestling shows we have, the better the whole product is for everyone.

Demonstrably wrong. Impact's shit has tainted a lot of other wrestling company's. Impact's utter failure as a television property has actively soured other tv sources on wrestling. They are a net negative drain on the business.

[The Barber]

Apr 10, 2018 19:57:01 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Apr 10, 2018 19:24:39 GMT -5 The Barber said:

No, they are not. I think it is misplaced vitriol towards Impact. I'm not the biggest Impact fan, but the more wrestling shows we have, the better the whole product is for everyone.

Demonstrably wrong. Impact's shit has tainted a lot of other wrestling company's. Impact's utter failure as a television property has actively soured other tv sources on wrestling. They are a net negative drain on the business.

The low ad rates have affected wresting more than Impact ever has.

If what you said was true, then you'd blame Impact for CW, WGN, SyFy and others for cancelling WWE, am I right?

[Reflecto]

Apr 10, 2018 19:24:39 GMT -5 The Barber said:

No, they are not. I think it is misplaced vitriol towards Impact. I'm not the biggest Impact fan, but the more wrestling shows we have, the better the whole product is for everyone.

But if Impact closes, more indy promotions will take the vacuuum, and ONE will succeed.

[Deleted]

Not anymore. Impact has finally admitted that they’re an Indy with a tv deal and I’m fine with that. When they were doing all of that shady bullshit, ruining the product with guys like Hogan etc., and trying to be bigger than they ever had any real chance of being then yes.

[Deleted]

Yes.

[kingoftheindies]

I've said it in another thread, but I think a lot of reaction now are a default setting for TNA's long line of incompetence that was magnified when Hogan and crew came in and had been running for a long time after. Anthem's biggest blunders are the Hardy fiasco (which they admitted was wrong and even Matt Hardy praised them for how they learned from the situation) and some things Jarrett did in charge. With Don Callis and Scott D'Amore in charge they at least are finally self aware, but right now they are having to rebuild after years of the same company (albeit former owners) treating the fans with contempt

[BrodietheSlayer]

Nope.


I'd say more, but I don't feel like getting in a flame war.

[darbus alan]

They did some scummy things that would make Vince McMahon at his worst blush. If they turned it around and became a more ethical business, then that's good and I wish them the best. But if they're still pulling the same shit, then they deserve to die and I hope they burn in hell.

[Rave]

Absolutely justified when Dixie was running the show, but now? Not so much. If they can keep Pointy Haired Ed from doing any more stupid shit and actually turn things around, more power to them.

[Error]

For the question at hand, at one time I'd easily say yes. When they weren't paying people, when they weren't taking care of the people that got injured on their watch, and other scandals I think it was completely justified. With the changes in management and the recent changes they have made I think they deserve a chance to sink or swim.

Apr 10, 2018 17:49:18 GMT -5 Hurbster said:

I just think the the TNA sub-forum would be better served going to a bigger company now.

Nothing gets the attention TNA does, or did I should say. We looked at the possibilities and there was nothing there.

Apr 10, 2018 20:41:43 GMT -5 The Barber said:

Apr 10, 2018 19:57:01 GMT -5 2coldMack is even more baffled said:

Demonstrably wrong. Impact's shit has tainted a lot of other wrestling company's. Impact's utter failure as a television property has actively soured other tv sources on wrestling. They are a net negative drain on the business.

The low ad rates have affected wresting more than Impact ever has.

If what you said was true, then you'd blame Impact for CW, WGN, SyFy and others for cancelling WWE, am I right?

Spike (or whatever it is called now) and Destination America (and all 19 Discovery owned networks) have point blank told people they want nothing to do with wrestling after TNA was canceled because of management incompetence. WGN blamed WWE rightly. CW you might be able to make a case for but they were also going from a general audience demo to focusing on 18-34 females. SyFY didn't cancel WWE, NBC moved SDL up to USA with a rights fee boost. Unless you're talking ECW/NXT but even then it obviously didn't hurt anything.