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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:39:31 GMT -5
Theyneed to push Hater to the moon. She's got the look, hhe's got the presence and she's got the skills to carry this division. I'd probably have Jamie win at Full Gear. I'm pretty sure Britt's going to accidentally cost her the match, though. I'd do what they should have done with Triple H and Orton back in 2004. Hayter wins, and Britt is left with her extremely hollow sounding "I'm so proud of you" as he jealousy for her protege builds and builds and she turns on Hayter.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:36:06 GMT -5
They need to push Hayter to the moon. She's got the look, she's got the presence and she's got the skills to carry this division.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:28:58 GMT -5
Short and sweet, fnatastic mic work as always from Moxley. He's right up there with plenty of the greats in that regard. Mox, and Kingston are the best promo guys in the company by a country mile. Give them 2 minute and a microphone and whatever match they're talking about is going to feel like it's enough to be worth buying the PPV on its own. Given in this case you don't need to do much to sell the crowd on Mox Vs. MJF but still.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:24:47 GMT -5
Moxley being a multi-millionaire never computes with me, dude looks like he'd keep a million dollars in a pizza box guarded by street rats lol He's the one guy who can convincingly pull off the everyman thing in spite of the fact that he has more money than any of us will ever see.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:22:20 GMT -5
Short and sweet, fnatastic mic work as always from Moxley.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:17:00 GMT -5
I'm sure Sting and Darby Vs. Lethal and Jarrett is going to be a fun novelty, but the promos on this show have just been painful to get through.
I don't know aside from the utter fire that was the opener, this whole night has felt off.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:10:34 GMT -5
But that doesn't make her look like a face. Perception is a big deal here. Burying your opponents accomplishments does very little to sell me on a match. She doesn't really have the clout to make that kind of claim work in my opinion. It wasn't an objectively bad promo, but she felt like the heel full-stop in this. It could lead to her eventually turning heel after the big feel good return win moment, wouldn't be the worst thing But the live crowd came out of that cheering Saraya, so I doubt her words did any damage to the match itself on a large scale The physicality at the end helped matters. She looked sharp as hell for as long as she's been out. Whether she'll look good for the duration of their match remains to be seen, but at the very least this has potential. Although the reaction seemed overall pretty mixed.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:05:27 GMT -5
She kind of burie the Women's title with that promo. "You held the women's title for about a year, but this match against me is bigger than any of those matches!" She's basically saying she's a bigger deal than the entire women's division. Not a great way to put a face over. I doubt that was the intention given she's done a ton of putting over of the title and Toni Storm as the champion. She was just trying to put Britt down But that doesn't make her look like a face. Perception is a big deal here. Burying your opponents accomplishments does very little to sell me on a match. She doesn't really have the clout to make that kind of claim work in my opinion. It wasn't an objectively bad promo, but she felt like the heel full-stop in this.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 21:00:59 GMT -5
She kind of burie the Women's title with that promo.
"You held the women's title for about a year, but this match against me is bigger than any of those matches!" She's basically saying she's a bigger deal than the entire women's division. Not a great way to put a face over.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 20:58:22 GMT -5
It's astounding how little I care about this. I went from totally marking out for her return to not caring in the slightest about anything she does. Britt's near invincibility doesn't help matters either. Britt's been taking pins left and right since The Owen Fair point. The rest of the point stands.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 20:56:53 GMT -5
Saraya is coming off as very heelish here.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 9, 2022 20:54:49 GMT -5
It's astounding how little I care about this. I went from totally marking out for her return to not caring in the slightest about anything she does.
Britt's near invincibility doesn't help matters either.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 8, 2022 19:29:36 GMT -5
So Punk became like Mark Callaway.
Who is this quote coming from? Isn't that Konnan's podcast?
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 8, 2022 8:27:01 GMT -5
Welcome to day 800. So unless I'm mistaken, Hulk Hogan's 1st Title reign would have been the last Title reign to go over 1000 days right? Back then it made slightly more sense as Raw and Smackdown didn't exist and you didn't have monthly PPV's. You would be correct in WWE. 1,000+ day title runs in wrestling at large generally died back in the 80s. There's been a smattering here and there with guys like Dan Severn (who held the belt for 4 1/2 years) and Nick Aldis (with 1,043 days) in the NWA, but a reign of this length on a weekly televised wrestling show is unheard of.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 8, 2022 8:02:31 GMT -5
See, I actually like Austin Theory but I think it was WAY too soon for any kind of main event push for him.
They also really booked themselves into a corner with Money in the Bank and having Roman with both title so... How else could this have ended really?
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 7, 2022 21:57:29 GMT -5
Well Summerslam is right before the 3 year mark so if it gets that far might as well pass that as well lol And with "x days until y is passed, might as well have him hold the belt till then", the y will be John Cena and his combined days as champion and you might as well pass that too. There will always be a "might as well pass that as well" and it's going to hurt the product. You're not wrong about that but frankly him reaching 3 years seems to be the most likely sequence of events. If they're doing Rock Vs. Roman at WM 39, then Roman needs to retain there to avoid burying the whole roster worse with no current wrestler taking the belt off him. My current prediction for where it ends is Wrestlemania 40 in 2024.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 7, 2022 9:36:48 GMT -5
I think this is going to be the final main card for FG -MJF vs Mox -Storm vs Hayter -Nyla vs Jade -Jericho vs Sammy vs Danielson vs Claudio -Wardlow vs Hobbs -Acclaimed vs Swerve/Lee -Britt vs Saraya -Darby/Sting vs Jarrett/Lethal(?) -Ethan Page vs Ricky Starks(?) -Death Triangle vs the Elite(?) 10 matches would be fine, Saraya/Britt, Jade/Nyla and maybe Sting/Darby vs Planet Jarrett can be kept short.
On this card I'd say: -MJF -Hayter -Nyla (wishful thinking I know) -Jericho -Wardlow -Acclaimed -Saraya -Darby and Sting -Ricky Starks -The Elite due to some hammer related shenanigans.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 7, 2022 8:38:10 GMT -5
Once he beat Drew, I gave up all hope of him losing until Mania at the earliest. That would put him at 945 days which would mean only 55 days until 1,000 days, which would be May 27. Since I think they are going to have him reach day 1,000 as as champion, that probably pushes the timeline to Summerslam 2023 at earliest. Reports are that Triple H has an idea of who he wants to take the belt of Roman but that's "Not going to happen anytime soon".
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 6, 2022 20:08:24 GMT -5
At worst all you can say that the Elite did wrong in this case was poor timing.
In hindsight should they have waited until Wednesday? Probably yes. Give everybody a chance to cool off so they could discuss this with cooler heads. But they could not have expected, nor would they have had any reason to expect that CM Punk was going to attack them. Any accusations of wrongdoing against The Elite beyond poor timing is just grasping at straws.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 6, 2022 19:47:39 GMT -5
I've never seen a wrestler simultaneously look this invincible and this inept.
He never loses (In December it will be three years since his last pinfall loss), but at the same time he nearly always retains due to interference or other kinds of cheating (Even against Logan f***ing Paul).
But the weird thing is that they never seem to acknowledge the fact that this is going on. They just keep talking up "Roman Reigns has been so utterly dominant! It's like nothing else we've ever seen in the history of WWE!"
It kind of misses the point of having the cheap finishes to begin with, which is to build heat on the wrestler who wins by cheating, and protecting the guy who lost. But if they don't acknowledge the interference then neither one of those things is actually happening.
It's confusing.
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