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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 20:56:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure what people are saying abut this not being a good show. Aside from Jade Cargill, this has been a pretty solid show. A wild Slapnuts appearing, the return of Colt Cabana, a banger Triple Threat, nice little match from Mox and Moriarty, and the return of Shibata. It's been eventful if nothing else, and most of it's probably going to lead to interesting stuff. I really only have a few complaints. The Cole Karter thing was a dud. I actually think if they just left that out and had Jarrett in the mask the segment is fine but Karter killed the heat (similar to Satnam's debut but not in the main event) The Nyla/Jade stuff didn't work and was annoying. Outside of that? been fine As a rule I hate anything involving Jade. She's not really developed at all as a performer. I've honestly tried to give her a chance but everything with her just brings the show grinding to a halt.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 20:50:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure what people are saying abut this not being a good show. Aside from Jade Cargill, this has been a pretty solid show.
A wild Slapnuts appearing, the return of Colt Cabana, a banger Triple Threat, nice little match from Mox and Moriarty, and the return of Shibata. It's been eventful if nothing else, and most of it's probably going to lead to interesting stuff.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 20:43:55 GMT -5
Orange Cassidy Vs. Shibata has got to be one of the biggest fever dream matches I've ever seen.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 20:42:22 GMT -5
Hey it was every Jade Cargill match ever. Just get to the Nyla match so we can be done with this f***ing disaster of a title run already. Jade's over and the crowd loves her so... this run being a disaster is subjective. Well that is how opinions work. In my mind, it's been the same thing for nearly an entire year. It's been Roman Reigns current title run only it's not the main event scene and there's been no good matches. And it doesn't have a Sami Zayn to add entertainment value to a beyond stale angle.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 20:37:30 GMT -5
Hey it was every Jade Cargill match ever. Just get to the Nyla match so we can be done with this f***ing disaster of a title run already.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 16:39:12 GMT -5
Phil: hey corey, how ya doing? Corey Graves: …. Phil: AJ - good day to you. AJ Styles: … Miz: hey pu- Phil: WHAT DID I EVER DO TO DESERVE AN EMPTY HEADED DUMB f*** LIKE U TO MAIN EVENT WRESTLEMANIA *Kevin Owens walks past Punk getting his ass kicked by half the locker room* “That’s a shame.” "I'd love to help, but pro wrestlers don't wear t-shirts, so I can't help you there."
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 8:47:34 GMT -5
This isn't even the kind of situation you'd have seen in the old days with Harley Race dropping the belt to Dusty Rhodes, Giant Baba, or Tommy Rich just to win it back a few days later either. I know Triple H loves the old school NWA style booking with dominant heel champions and occassional face runs where they quickly drop the belt back tot he dominant heel, but he has to be able to see the difference here. Rhodes, Baba and Rich were top level competitors in their respective territories, people who the people in the region reasonably thought could be the best wrestler in the world. So he lost no credibility dropping the belt because for a little bit, because of course wrestlers on that level could get the best of the World Champion on any given night. But Logan Paul, an 0-1 boxer, whose biggest claim to fame in the ring was not getting KO'd by a guy he had like 50 pounds on who hadn't scored a stoppage victory agaainst an actual boxer since 2011. Roman Reigns' credibility and the credibility of everybody he ever beat to retain the title (which is... pretty much everybody in the main event scene.) is completely shattered beyond repair. Like no way anybody in WWE could possibly make me convinced any of them could wrestle their way out of a wet paper bag. If it was Vince I think he'd do it for sure. Triple H may love the NWA and there's still for sure people wary after Clash At The Castle but he's not crazy enough to do even a brief celeb title run. I don't think he will, but I can't be 100% sure about that either. The Drew McIntyre thing really diminished my hopes that Triple H was the master booker we'd all hoped he'd be (On a side note that would have been the right time to do one of those old school NWA switches).
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 2, 2022 8:29:03 GMT -5
WWE better not strap up that absolute F***head.
WWE putting the company's world titles on Logan Paul might be enough for me to call it a day on HHH as head booker. That's a Dave Arquette level failure right there. This isn't even the kind of situation you'd have seen in the old days with Harley Race dropping the belt to Dusty Rhodes, Giant Baba, or Tommy Rich just to win it back a few days later either. I know Triple H loves the old school NWA style booking with dominant heel champions and occassional face runs where they quickly drop the belt back tot he dominant heel, but he has to be able to see the difference here. Rhodes, Baba and Rich were top level competitors in their respective territories, people who the people in the region reasonably thought could be the best wrestler in the world. So he lost no credibility dropping the belt because for a little bit, because of course wrestlers on that level could get the best of the World Champion on any given night. But Logan Paul, an 0-1 boxer, whose biggest claim to fame in the ring was not getting KO'd by a guy he had like 50 pounds on who hadn't scored a stoppage victory agaainst an actual boxer since 2011. Roman Reigns' credibility and the credibility of everybody he ever beat to retain the title (which is... pretty much everybody in the main event scene.) is completely shattered beyond repair. Like no way anybody in WWE could possibly make me convinced any of them could wrestle their way out of a wet paper bag.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 1, 2022 21:32:28 GMT -5
Why do I feel like everyone in this thread is about to sell me chocolate I have head trauma, and eternal bleeding. How many bars will you buy?
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 31, 2022 4:01:15 GMT -5
I’m now certain that Mutoh’s final match will be against Okada. It already been announced that his last match is that tag match with Sting. That's the last match for the Great Muta character. Keiji Mutoh's last is in February with an opponent TBD.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 31, 2022 3:40:26 GMT -5
You know what just occurred to me? What if they keep this going until Wrestlemania 40? I really, really hope they don't but it's something I could easily see happening. Let's think about this, they are really, really, REALLY, trying to pass Roman's current title reign off as one of the greatest and most dominant reigns in the history of WWE. No doubt with the momentous occassion that the 40th Wrestlemania is they'll be looking for something monumental to really mark the night as one to remember. What better way to do that than ending the longest title reign since 1988? With Roman's more sporadic schedule of in ring appearances as of late they could very easily milk this for that long. It might just be me, but it seems WWE doesn't really respect Pedro Morales. Like they NEVER mention. He NEVER makes any cameos. He does no DVD talking heads. So I totally see them at least pushing aside and surpassing the Morales title reign. They name drop Hogan, Backlund and Sammartino from time to time. But they seem the NEVER acknowledge Morales. It's really odd. It's like he was champion by accident for over 3 years. Well Wrestlemania 40 would push him far past that mark at 1,316 days.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 30, 2022 20:04:54 GMT -5
You know what just occurred to me? What if they keep this going until Wrestlemania 40? I really, really hope they don't but it's something I could easily see happening. Let's think about this, they are really, really, REALLY, trying to pass Roman's current title reign off as one of the greatest and most dominant reigns in the history of WWE. No doubt with the momentous occassion that the 40th Wrestlemania is they'll be looking for something monumental to really mark the night as one to remember. What better way to do that than ending the longest title reign since 1988? With Roman's more sporadic schedule of in ring appearances as of late they could very easily milk this for that long. I haven’t done the math, but read on Wreddit that dude’ll hit 1,000 days sometime after WrestleMania?..Yeah, I don’t see the guy losing at WM. That's WM 39, I'm talking WM 40 in 2024.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 30, 2022 18:02:55 GMT -5
In regards to the non alcoholic beer comment, that's a hell of a stretch. Mox seems to be the one person he's cool with in AEW, so it seems more like he just thought it would be a funny offhanded joke than a shot at Moxley. The dude's a piece of shit, but let's not blow this out of proportion. Wasn't his comment just saying that the taste of it sucked? I didn't interpret it as a "lol non alcoholic beer" comment. His words were "It's that weirdo non-alcoholic shit." when Tony asked for one. Seemingly when he asked for one of what Punk was drinking.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 30, 2022 13:58:41 GMT -5
I think that his comments about the Daffney situation were genuinely sincere as the two dated for a while in the early 2000s (which apparently didn't end well but that's neither here nor there), combining that with the genuinely heartwrenching and horrifying form her death took, it would be impossible not to be moved.
In regards to the non alcoholic beer comment, that's a hell of a stretch. Mox seems to be the one person he's cool with in AEW, so it seems more like he just thought it would be a funny offhanded joke than a shot at Moxley.
The dude's a piece of shit, but let's not blow this out of proportion.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 30, 2022 13:15:34 GMT -5
You know what just occurred to me? What if they keep this going until Wrestlemania 40? I really, really hope they don't but it's something I could easily see happening.
Let's think about this, they are really, really, REALLY, trying to pass Roman's current title reign off as one of the greatest and most dominant reigns in the history of WWE. No doubt with the momentous occassion that the 40th Wrestlemania is they'll be looking for something monumental to really mark the night as one to remember.
What better way to do that than ending the longest title reign since 1988? With Roman's more sporadic schedule of in ring appearances as of late they could very easily milk this for that long.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 29, 2022 22:14:19 GMT -5
I think the only reason we got Angle/Benoit and Test/Eddie (w/Saturn) was because it would look like too much of a drop off for Angle to have been WWE Champ for a number of months, losing it to The Rock in the main event of the last PPV, to all of a sudden challenging Test for a low midcard belt. The optics wouldn't have looked right and you're absolutely correct that they booked themselves into a corner with regards to both Angle and The Radicalz. I think the booking decision was right with where the wrestlers concerned were on the card, in my opinion Benoit/Angle is the money making match but I accept that they had to make strange decisions to get there. If it wasn't WMX7 as the next PPV, then Angle/Test with some sort of Dusty finish and Eddie/Benoit would have been quite plausible, especially in Benoit/Eddie's case, but Benoit got the rub by getting Angle fresh off a main event run and this elevated himself up the card until he had to go get neck surgery. Also, with regards to the HHH/Taker match, it's amazing that they had this match (which is a pretty good brawl for what it was) but in the run up to their WM27/28 fueds, this match was hardly mentioned or completely glossed over in some cases, despite it being on arguably the greatest PPV ever presented. It's this weird thing with Triple H. He rarely acknowledges any thing in his career pre 2002 when he's the top guy. Like he references DX more as an off handed thing and that he was part of it, or reference his historic feud with the Rock. But nothing about his feud with Austin, nothing about his feud with Mick Foley, nothing about his pre-WM 27 feud with the Undertaker. It's super weird because he more or less ignores his best career work between 1998 and 2001.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 29, 2022 19:24:29 GMT -5
Cody is still denying all this, by the way. His tweet was from an hour ago. In a lot of ways this is what Cody really wanted. He didn't want a war between WWE and AEW. He wanted alternative for fans and for wrestlers. Go where you want to go and feel your interests will be best served. No hard feelings. Don't make the professional personal. This is what I love to see.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 29, 2022 19:19:44 GMT -5
He can get anything over. On paper, this is an extremely stupid gimmick that's been done before with a fanboy trying to join is favorite and hasn't ever really worked. Here Sami is leaning into being this dumbass Roman Reigns fanboy, being the biggest dork in existence and is just so extremely loveable that you can't help but be entertained.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 29, 2022 11:44:30 GMT -5
I really got into AEW because of Danielson and Punk returning, so I would be a total liar if I said I wasn't massively bummed about the way this has turned out. Of course this is just my dumb opinion, but The Elite definitely give off a "Klique-ish" vibe. With Punk being the way he is, I guess it should've seemed obvious the way this was going to turn out. A damn shame that the MJF title win won't come from Punk. Tony will definitely be an idiot not to get that no-compete clause enforced. I'd rather pay Punk to sit at home than to stroll into WWE and instantly create a massive boom there. The Elite spent the first year losing and putting people over, TK had to demand that they got pushed and won the titles. That is the opposite of Kliq-ish. Their entire persona is literally a parody of the Kliq.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Oct 29, 2022 8:10:35 GMT -5
Larry got hit in the face with the door which is why Punk was mad but Punk didn't know about it until a few days later at a planned vet appointment but it wasn't a few days later it was 'well after' the story got out and also apparently the only person saying it was why is CM Punk even though if they hit his dog with a door his first impulse would probably be to cuss them out for hitting his dog with a door, tooth loss or no tooth loss, because they were being reckless idiots who hit his dog with the door. Except the door opens outward from the room so he couldn't have been hit by the door. This is stupid. If I wanted stupid doors in my wrestling I'd watch GCW. The only doors I want in my wrestling are the Forbidden ones!
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