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Post by Arturo Classico on Jan 14, 2008 22:03:58 GMT -5
Batman because he's Batman. Seriously what other reason do I need to give?
Okay a superhero is only as good as his villians and his are the best I mean The Joker, Penguin, The Riddler, Scarecrow, and Mr Freeze. The only Spiderman villian that measures up is Norman Osbourne. Also Batman has beaten so many harder people with no super powers. And he is one of the few characters that could be adapted for any era and as Miller wrote, "HE'S THE GODDAMN BATMAN!"
So I vote Batman.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jan 15, 2008 5:28:17 GMT -5
Only about 15 hours remain ....
The current tally by my count is 25 - 11 to Batman.
Can Spidey fight his way back into this or is Batman just taking it easy back at Wayne Manor. Only you decide!
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Post by Funkyjumbo on Jan 15, 2008 8:18:05 GMT -5
Batman, chicks dig the car
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Post by Paul Is Deadpool R.I.P on Jan 15, 2008 8:30:47 GMT -5
Wait a second here people... It seems to me that youv'e let your hearts take over here.
In a fight, straight up, Spider-Man would dominate Bat-Man.
Spider-Man is physically stronger, faster, and at least as smart if not smarter.
He could literally tear Bat-Man from limb to limb, though he wouldn't....
But he would beat him down!
so my vote goes to Spider-Man!
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jan 15, 2008 8:34:38 GMT -5
Wait a second here people... It seems to me that youv'e let your hearts take over here. In a fight, straight up, Spider-Man would dominate Bat-Man. Spider-Man is physically stronger, faster, and at least as smart if not smarter. He could literally tear Bat-Man from limb to limb, though he wouldn't.... But he would beat him down! so my vote goes to Spider-Man! It's a who's your favorite tournament final, not who would win in a fight (see the front page rules.)
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Post by Paul Is Deadpool R.I.P on Jan 15, 2008 8:44:22 GMT -5
Still... how can Bat-Man be more popular than Spider-Man?
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jan 15, 2008 8:49:46 GMT -5
Wait a second here people... It seems to me that youv'e let your hearts take over here. In a fight, straight up, Spider-Man would dominate Bat-Man. Spider-Man is physically stronger, faster, and at least as smart if not smarter. He could literally tear Bat-Man from limb to limb, though he wouldn't.... But he would beat him down! so my vote goes to Spider-Man! Seriously, I made a joke about it earlier, but Batman WOULD find a way to take the spider down... Peter Parker is possibly smarter than Bruce Wayne, but he's not close to as inventive or rich... he can muster his powers and his webs, but think of what Batman can bring to face that. Add Batman's godlike fighting skills, and it would be a pounding. Maybe if Spiderman was facing just Batman without any of the added gimmicks, it would be close, but that's the only way.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jan 15, 2008 8:50:42 GMT -5
Still... how can Bat-Man be more popular than Spider-Man? Cos more people prefer him, and think he's a better character?
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Post by jamofpearls on Jan 15, 2008 9:01:49 GMT -5
Wait a second here people... It seems to me that youv'e let your hearts take over here. In a fight, straight up, Spider-Man would dominate Bat-Man. Spider-Man is physically stronger, faster, and at least as smart if not smarter. He could literally tear Bat-Man from limb to limb, though he wouldn't.... But he would beat him down! so my vote goes to Spider-Man! As I stated earlier...batman has put the smackdown on superman how many times? And supes is waaaay more powered up that spidey.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 15, 2008 9:03:49 GMT -5
Batman is better because
A) He's a deeper character B) Awesome Villains C) Banged Wonder Woman & Louis Lane (I know he did) D) He's the Godamn Batman
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Post by Paul Is Deadpool R.I.P on Jan 15, 2008 9:23:27 GMT -5
yea... but hasn't Bats had some help or some kinda gadget to beat Superman?
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jan 15, 2008 9:23:41 GMT -5
Batman is better because A) He's a deeper character B) Awesome Villains C) Banged Wonder Woman & Louis Lane (I know he did) D) He's the Godamn Batman A. Debatable B. SPidey too, they have the best two rogue stables outside maybe the Flash C. Black Cat and MJ. Redheads win. D.Well yeah, but Pete is the MF'in Spider-man. Which is much edgier. Again for Bats beating Spidey, sure he takes on Superman, a guy he knows inside and out and knows like a brother. And happens to carry around his danged weakness just in case. He wont be ready for a guy like Peter.
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Post by The Raven on Jan 15, 2008 10:13:14 GMT -5
Wait a second here people... It seems to me that youv'e let your hearts take over here. In a fight, straight up, Spider-Man would dominate Bat-Man. Spider-Man is physically stronger, faster, and at least as smart if not smarter. He could literally tear Bat-Man from limb to limb, though he wouldn't.... But he would beat him down! so my vote goes to Spider-Man! Seriously, I made a joke about it earlier, but Batman WOULD find a way to take the spider down... Peter Parker is possibly smarter than Bruce Wayne, but he's not close to as inventive or rich... he can muster his powers and his webs, but think of what Batman can bring to face that. Add Batman's godlike fighting skills, and it would be a pounding. Maybe if Spiderman was facing just Batman without any of the added gimmicks, it would be close, but that's the only way. I'll give you more inventive and richer, but in a physical fight Batman would lose. No amount of training can take away the fact that he's still human, and Spider-Man, what with his Spider sense and super strength, could pound him down with time. I think it would all come down to inventiveness, which as we've covered, Batman has more of.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jan 15, 2008 11:14:48 GMT -5
Question... didn't Spiderman beat the Hulk at least once, only to let him go afterwards 'cause he felt sorry for Banner?
If so, I find that far more impressive than beating Superman. With Superman, you just need a green rock. A child could pound Superman into the ground if he had that green rock. But Hulk? Bring a rock to a fight with the Hulk, and you're best off throwing it somewhere as a distraction while you run the crap away.
Either way... Batman has beaten some powerful dudes, but so has Spiderman. And he did it without having something to use to make them weak as kittens.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jan 15, 2008 11:26:53 GMT -5
Question... didn't Spiderman beat the Hulk at least once, only to let him go afterwards 'cause he felt sorry for Banner? If so, I find that far more impressive than beating Superman. With Superman, you just need a green rock. A child could pound Superman into the ground if he had that green rock. But Hulk? Bring a rock to a fight with the Hulk, and you're best off throwing it somewhere as a distraction while you run the crap away. Either way... Batman has beaten some powerful dudes, but so has Spiderman. And he did it without having something to use to make them weak as kittens. Batman is a planner, pure and simple... I will accept that if he was caught totally unawares by Spidey, it would be a tough fight, maybe a win, maybe a loss. With a short lead time, though, Bats wins.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 15, 2008 13:44:49 GMT -5
Spider-Man
We at least know what he his...
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jan 15, 2008 16:31:10 GMT -5
Question... didn't Spiderman beat the Hulk at least once, only to let him go afterwards 'cause he felt sorry for Banner? If so, I find that far more impressive than beating Superman. With Superman, you just need a green rock. A child could pound Superman into the ground if he had that green rock. But Hulk? Bring a rock to a fight with the Hulk, and you're best off throwing it somewhere as a distraction while you run the crap away. Either way... Batman has beaten some powerful dudes, but so has Spiderman. And he did it without having something to use to make them weak as kittens. Batman is a planner, pure and simple... I will accept that if he was caught totally unawares by Spidey, it would be a tough fight, maybe a win, maybe a loss. With a short lead time, though, Bats wins. Seriously dude, if Batman has planning time and knows what is coming, so does Pete. And he has proven time and again to be a great planner and to be able to rig up some great stuff to help him out. Plus how does Bats ever get around the Spider sense and the fighting style? Fact is Spider-man always knows what is coming at him and has the reflexes to dodge anything Batman can toss at him.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jan 15, 2008 16:35:00 GMT -5
Batman is a planner, pure and simple... I will accept that if he was caught totally unawares by Spidey, it would be a tough fight, maybe a win, maybe a loss. With a short lead time, though, Bats wins. Seriously dude, if Batman has planning time and knows what is coming, so does Pete. And he has proven time and again to be a great planner and to be able to rig up some great stuff to help him out. Plus how does Bats ever get around the Spider sense and the fighting style? Fact is Spider-man always knows what is coming at him and has the reflexes to dodge anything Batman can toss at him. Unless Batman takes that into account and rigs something up that's a bluff, sending Spider man "dodging" into the real threat. I love these kind of arguments because the fact of the matter is whoever wins is who the writers decide to make win.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jan 15, 2008 16:43:34 GMT -5
Seriously dude, if Batman has planning time and knows what is coming, so does Pete. And he has proven time and again to be a great planner and to be able to rig up some great stuff to help him out. Plus how does Bats ever get around the Spider sense and the fighting style? Fact is Spider-man always knows what is coming at him and has the reflexes to dodge anything Batman can toss at him. Unless Batman takes that into account and rigs something up that's a bluff, sending Spider man "dodging" into the real threat. I love these kind of arguments because the fact of the matter is whoever wins is who the writers decide to make win. Would a bluff really set off his spider-sense, since it's not a real threat? And if there's a bluff and a real threat, why would the bluff be the only one setting his sense off? Wouldn't he at the very least sense both? And this is assuming Batman could figure out that he has that sense, which I'm not overly sure he could without an extensive amount of time to observe Spiderman or get to know him.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jan 15, 2008 16:52:56 GMT -5
Unless Batman takes that into account and rigs something up that's a bluff, sending Spider man "dodging" into the real threat. I love these kind of arguments because the fact of the matter is whoever wins is who the writers decide to make win. Would a bluff really set off his spider-sense, since it's not a real threat? And if there's a bluff and a real threat, why would the bluff be the only one setting his sense off? Wouldn't he at the very least sense both? And this is assuming Batman could figure out that he has that sense, which I'm not overly sure he could without an extensive amount of time to observe Spiderman or get to know him. Yes it would. Spider-Man's spider-sense goes off just because he's about to walk around a corner and run into a guy who's just walking on the side walk. He just knows when to ignore that crap. In a fight, where you can make a bluff seem real he wouldn't have the luxury of supposing it's a bluff. The real threat wouldn't kick in until Spider-Man is in it. Think... Mysterio or Arcade... Spider-Man's Spider-Sense isn't an end-all-be-all radar detection, thermal vision, metal detector, x-ray vision thing. It's a very general thing that he has refined.
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