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Post by Killah Ray on Apr 24, 2008 12:06:43 GMT -5
Nobody's got love for MIA? She's probably the most unique rap artist out there right now, at least as far as anything mainstream. She went to Sri Lanka to make her last record so she could use some of their traditional percussion for her beats. As far as female MCs go, Jean Grae is so far ahead of everyone else it is not even funny...
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Post by MysteryPartner on Apr 24, 2008 12:40:02 GMT -5
Lil Whyte > Eminem
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Apr 24, 2008 12:51:17 GMT -5
I just can't listen to rap. It's that simple... you can toss all the lyrics and beats at me you want, it just lacks the punch of metal for me. With that said, though, I have a lot of respect for the genre in itself. I see a lot of similarities in rap and metal. They're both genres that rise out of a need for something different, they prefer to exist outside of the mainstream, it's easy to start up a group for yourself, regardless of what some say... it takes a lot of talent to do each, and the groups that hit the mainstream are basically parodies of the genre that embarrass true fans. I have listened to enough rap, both mainstream and underground, to know exactly why I can't listen to it. However, that's not to say it's bad. I just don't hear the same thing rap fans do.... chances are, the same people who don't understand why I can't enjoy rap on any musical level are the ones who listen to Emperor and hear nothing but random screams, symphonics, and what sounds like someone banging a cat against a screen door. Whereas, I hear an amazing band. I guess the main thing I sympathize with rap fans on, as I mentioned. While the uninformed look at System Of A Down, Slipknot, and Disturbed as what defines metal. The same people on the other side hear Soulja Boy and think, "Well, it's on the radio.. this MUST be an accurate representation of the genre." ** Beats chest, then holds up horns ** I feel ya, bro.... I feel ya. ** Pours out a 40 on a curb, one for me... one for my homie who couldn't be here.... Satan ** Best post ever. *returns the horns* Although, mainstream or not, I do enjoy System, Slipknot (to a degree), and Disturbed. Then again, I'm more of a "rock" guy than a hardcore metalhead and those bands fit more in that category than metal anyway. As far as rap/hip-hop goes... yeah, I was really into it about 10 years ago, during my high school years, and it's probably because that's what my friends were listening to. Biggie, Puff Daddy (at the time), Busta Rhymes, alot of Wu-Tang in my circle of friends, Dre... then over the course of time, after getting away from those friends and going out and discovering the world for myself, I've gone farther and farther down the rock/metal road really don't listen to any rap anymore other than the occasional nostalgia trip with those artists mentioned before. With one exception, Eminem. I don't think I've heard one thing out of him that I didn't like.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Apr 25, 2008 0:26:00 GMT -5
also for anyone who hates rap I got a song that's just pure genius, so much it was written by the gza.
They was told not to ride in Patty's +Hearse+ and stay out of Charles' +Manson+ Took Abraham's +Lincoln+ through the Todd +Bridges+ espansion Willis +Reid+s a map that marks the spot showin On his left George +Burns+ a blunt William's holdin +Tyra Banked+ the money that +Chaka Khaned+ him for +Alicia Keyed+ his car for givin +Melba Moore+ For the Redd +Foxx+ who bought off the block, but though twice As Debora +Cox+ the gun cuz she beat Kelly's +Price+ When Rosa +Park+ed the truck on the farm that Kim +Fields+ Linda +Tripp+ed for tryna to walk in Lauryn's +Hills+ Water dripped outta Farrah's +Fawcett+ in the glass She was "Superfly", Curtis +Mayfield+ her ass Chris +Tucker+ to a show, Ted +Turner+ to a hoe Robert +Diggs+ the beat, but ain't feelin the flow But he signed it fast, for half of Johnny's +Cash+ +Nia Long+ed for the album to drop, cameras flashed Tom +Sawyer+ at the Lucielle +Ball+ up at the foyer He confronted Richard +Pryor+ to hiring his lawyer Suge's +Knight+ removed the rook off the board +Don King+ was checked and +Al Sharpton+ the sword
"Wantin cream, I ain't wantin fame" "Fame is the measure" "Rap celebs" "The place where stars are born"
[Verse 2] The saints marched in, Kurtis +Blow+ing his horn Tom +Cruise+d the boulevard, Chris +Rock+ed the song For the hundredth time, they pressed rewind to the beginning They toast to the ryhme, the juice spilled from +John's Lennon+ They took her to Elizabeth +Taylor+ to dry clean The lone seamstress, who was schemin on +Al's Green+ You know they shoot for the stars and buckwild Like the kids in the yard who play with +Jane's Child+ A beautician laced Erykah's +Badu+ Sean +Comb+ed through the evidence, just to get a clue The needle in the haystack, from outta +Eartha's Kitt+ The Tiger +Wood+ kill him once thrown in Brad's +Pitt+ Jesse +Owen+ the money from the weed Bubba +Sparxxx+ They was journeys seen far as he walked in Dick's +Clark+ Jeffery +Lyons+ stuck with a thorn from George's +Bush+ Paul +Pierce+d in the heart as the crowd pushed Acting alone... Drew +Barrymore+ bones of the victims, three blocks from Jim's +Brownstone+ They shared the same bowl, he caught Natalie's +Cole+d The producer, threw the butter on Esther's +Rolle+ Dempsey +Russel+ed him down, got his jaw wide In a instant, Brooke +Shields+ him from the gunfire Angie +Stone+d him to death, with those vocals Keith +Sweat+ from the workout, just from runnin local
"Wantin cream, I ain't wantin fame" "Fame is the measure" "Rap celebs" "The place where stars are born"
[Verse 3] Larry's +Bird+ flew outta Nicholas' +Cage+ Joe +Tex+ messages from Satchel's +Paige+ Betty +Wright+ letters with ink from Sean's +Penn+ Infinite bars, you couldn't tell where the song end Glenn +Close+ enough to quickly duck the tapes Richard +Gere+ ripped while he was climbin Bill +Gates+ He was a southerner, posing as a, native New Yorker Then +Jason Kidd+ took his first steps in +Jimmy's Walker+ He stayed on line chattin with rap celebs Used Bernie's +Mack+ to search Veronica's +Webb+ It cost them their life for the advice you gave Now Pete +Rose+ lay on Vanessa's +Redgrave+
"Wantin cream, I ain't wantin fame" "Fame is the measure" "Rap celebs" "The place where stars are born" "Wantin cream, I ain't wantin fame" "Fame is the measure" "Rap celebs" "The place where stars are born"
let's see a rock band try and do that! and I like rock music.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Apr 25, 2008 1:38:37 GMT -5
To quote someone else in another thread like this: if you want real hip-hop, listen to Nas, not Soulja Boy.
Also, I like many various types of music, so I'm not just saying this to bash all other music, but true hip hop does require skill. Anybody who's saying it's all crap is just disillusioned. A lot of people can rhyme. Not everybody can be thought-provoking and make things flow.
To those who never bothered to give it a try, and just think what you hear on 98% of radio stations is what the entire history of hip hop culture is all about, I would recommend you keep an open mind, and listen to some of the tracks people here have suggested.
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Post by Killah Ray on Apr 25, 2008 1:43:02 GMT -5
To quote someone else in another thread like this: if you want real hip-hop, listen to Nas, not Soulja Boy. Also, I like many various types of music, so I'm not just saying this to bash all other music, but true hip hop does require skill. Anybody who's saying it's all crap is just disillusioned. A lot of people can rhyme. Not everybody can be thought-provoking and make things flow. To those who never bothered to give it a try, and just think what you hear on 98% of radio stations is what the entire history of hip hop culture is all about, I would recommend you keep an open mind, and listen to some of the tracks people here have suggested. It's so hard to change people's perceived thoughts on hip-hop. I try to get people to listen to hip-hop like Little Brother but if they aren't on the radio it's almost impossible to get people to try something new. It's actually pretty depressing that people seem to be so narrowminded when it comes to hip-hop... And to use the thread title for example, it says old feelings about rap which I consider to be the Soulja Boys, Lil Wayne, Lil John, crunk artists.... But I'ma big hip-hop head and love good discussion about hip-hop...love being turned on to new artists....too bad most artists that can spit go the pop charts route and not the hip-hop route...
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Apr 25, 2008 2:18:58 GMT -5
^ Sounds like an NWA quote:
"They kill where the hip-hop starts. Forget about the ghetto, and rap for the pop charts. Some musicians cuss at home, but scared to use profanity when up on the microphone. Yeah they want reality, but you'll hear none. They rather exaggerate a little fiction. Or they ban my group from the radio, hear NWA, and say 'Hell No!'"
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