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Post by masstranisteric on Apr 28, 2008 3:29:22 GMT -5
End thread. that is an induction waiting to happen.
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Apr 28, 2008 3:41:59 GMT -5
Largely because they buried him on HEAT and jobbed the crap outta out of him.
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Post by lovingway on Apr 28, 2008 3:51:23 GMT -5
Didn't he job out to some "WWE Legend" at a Taboo Tuesday one year? I think that was the beginning of his demise, the fued with the Legends. Yea him and Tomko lost to Eugene and Snuka
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2008 4:00:45 GMT -5
Didn't he job out to some "WWE Legend" at a Taboo Tuesday one year? I think that was the beginning of his demise, the fued with the Legends. Yea him and Tomko lost to Eugene and Snuka There's just so many things wrong with that sentence .
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Post by bigdaddyfive on Apr 28, 2008 4:25:02 GMT -5
Didn't he job out to some "WWE Legend" at a Taboo Tuesday one year? I think that was the beginning of his demise, the fued with the Legends. Yea him and Tomko lost to Eugene at snooker Fixed... sort of...
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 28, 2008 5:06:09 GMT -5
I have no idea why he wasn't popular. Lame gimmick and lackof charisma might have been a factor though. However, I'm sure a certain section of this board's population will blame it on HHH and/or Cena.
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Post by seano on Apr 28, 2008 9:18:21 GMT -5
Well, remember when Conway was the legend killer.. the guy that was picking fight with legends. Then all of a sudden that gimmick got transferred to someone else when they realized people didn't like wrestlers who picked on nostalgia. .....but that Conway "legend killer" thing was totally a Heat exclusive gimmick. He wrestled Koko one week and Valentine the next, all while feuding with Eugene. They barely covered it on Raw, except to hype the Conway/Eugene match at Taboo Tuesday '05. There's your reason why Conway was a failure: because all they could come up with was "have him feud with guys too old to wrestle anymore and the mentally handicapped gimmick wrestler." Moments after he jobbed to Eugene and Snuka at Taboo Tuesday '05, he was on full jobber status until the end of his WWE career. He was never given a chance. His diatribe at Raw Homecoming against the legends was done well, but overall lame and really the only dialogue we ever got out of him.
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Post by joeman on Apr 28, 2008 12:05:58 GMT -5
Because he totally sucked? That is my answer.
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Post by Wrath Draven on Apr 29, 2008 4:40:01 GMT -5
His gimmick didn't get any heat. With most heels, you usually have a reason to hate them. But with Conway, he got no reaction because nobody had any real reason to hate him, or any real reason to care about him. He rarely did anything too heelish, but people knew he was a heel, so that's why he ended up getting the Conway Pop. He had a gimmick nobody cared about. This. All I remember him doing was coming to the ring with a smug look on his face, looking like the bastard son of Marty Jannety and a Zebra. That's not really much motivation to start booing him, or caring about him for that matter. That, and he would job all the time. It's hard to take someone as any sort of threat when they're losing to Hacksaw Jim Duggan on Heat. LMAO....
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Post by Wrath Draven on Apr 29, 2008 4:43:19 GMT -5
I vote all of the above. His tights were retarted, theme song was horrible, not that good in the ring plus cant go from Frenchie wannabe to a more gay looking version of Billy Gunn
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2008 4:43:39 GMT -5
It's hard to succeed in wrestling as anything more than a jobber if the only thing you ever get to do is lose.
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Post by Wrath Draven on Apr 29, 2008 4:43:47 GMT -5
And he sucked
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2008 4:51:44 GMT -5
Which was why he was one of Cornette's favorites in OVW, had bunches of good matches in OVW, and was given the gimmick he received, I suppose. He, like lots of other guys, was given too little to do and was fired when he couldn't get over. Fans don't give a damn about random guy #3654 who changes his look without a single explanation. Same thing with the Bashams and Eugene/ Nick Dinsmore: never given much to do, then get released after years of wowing WWE trainers, officials, etc. while in developmental. It can't be that every single one of them sucked. If that's the case, all those guys: Jim Cornette, Danny Davis, Al Snow, Lance Storm, Bill deMott are idiots and know nothing about wrestling.
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Post by EJS on Apr 29, 2008 5:10:26 GMT -5
They never did anything with him, not sure he would have succeeded anyway, but they didn't really give him any storylines or character direction or anything that would make people be interested in him.
It isn't like his situation was very unique, you can name dozens of guys in recent years who have faced similar apathy from the writing crew.
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Post by TromboneMan on Apr 29, 2008 6:43:39 GMT -5
I liked Conway. Heck, I think if the writers had gone with it, his egomaniac gimmick could've gone further than his La Resistance one.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 29, 2008 9:20:23 GMT -5
His theme song really helped drive home the fact that no one cared about him.
The piano part at the beginning is quiet enough that you could hear (or not hear, I guess) the apathy.
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Post by The"threadicidal"bristolspapa on Apr 29, 2008 13:33:29 GMT -5
who?
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Apr 29, 2008 13:39:06 GMT -5
I mean he was a talented wrestler with a decent amount of charisma, but you could hear a pin drop when he came out. What made him such a bomb? His Randy Newman theme song? His Mr. Slave look? No one looked at him. Someone used that line already, didn't they? Ah, well. Late to the party.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Apr 29, 2008 13:43:41 GMT -5
His theme song really helped drive home the fact that no one cared about him. The piano part at the beginning is quiet enough that you could hear (or not hear, I guess) the apathy. Seriously, that theme was death for his career. I can't envision him winning a title and having that play in the background, it just wasn't going to happen.
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Post by valiens on Apr 29, 2008 15:45:21 GMT -5
Because something about him read: "I am just doing whatever the office thinks will work. I have no input into my character because I'm not imaginative. I'm just a lunkhead saying words written for me."
He never OWNED the character. There are plenty of wrestlers with characters that could have been lame had they not given their all to them. Golddust comes to mind. And Eugene. Now, Umaga. How is Umaga still around? The dude's committed to the character and so it works.
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