biff
Bubba Ho-Tep
RIP Mike Awesome
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Post by biff on Sept 30, 2008 16:04:09 GMT -5
Hollywood Hogan was the greatest heel ever IMO.
The whole ring is covered in trash before he even says a word.
he gets hit by ATLEAST 7 or 8 drinks in this promo.
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Post by paulbearer on Sept 30, 2008 16:14:24 GMT -5
Hulkamania will never die.......dude
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The_ripoff_artist
Unicron
Just Regular Ol' Folk
R.I.P. Todd Newton 1989-2009
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Post by The_ripoff_artist on Sept 30, 2008 16:32:36 GMT -5
My favorite is the ones that are like 25 and under who say Hogan is crap, and boring. Ummm ya you were barely a thought when Hogan was big time. I have some matches of his on some tape. It's not the same as actually watching it. Now I'm sorry if this comes off kind of jack ass, but the Hogan love/hate is getting old.
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 30, 2008 16:44:16 GMT -5
I think all old wrestler have a certain amount of goodwill, for reasons I don't understand the more they come back the less they are liked. This applies to everybody, from people as beloved as Foley to lesser blast from the past like Marty Jannetty to a returning Y2J.
Add in backstage shenanigans, media comments and the younger members of the crowd not having grown up with him and you can see why he's not as popular as he was.
If he came back to WWE the crowd would go wild, if he stayed for a few months the crowd would go mild.
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The Clincher
Trap-Jaw
Laid back like a broken lawn chair.
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Post by The Clincher on Sept 30, 2008 17:01:15 GMT -5
Vince McMahon is the reason pro wrestling went mainstream. Obviously. But Hogan was reason he was able to do it. No Hogan, no Wrestlemania. No mainstream attention. It wouldn't have worked without him.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Sept 30, 2008 17:06:19 GMT -5
First off, before I say my couple of Abraham Lincoln's (without holes in head as illustrated), let me say that I respect Hulk and how he and Vince were able to get WWE into the stratrosphere of pop culture. Sure he's not the best worker and Japan is home to his finer matches, but lets face it: without Hulk, WWE would not be what it is today.
And now focused onto me, I will say once and for all that I am not, and never will be a Hulkamaniac. Part of it has to do that I started in the summer of 2002, when seemingly he was jobbing to all the top guys, but to me, Hulk just looked out of his prime and element. He got the ovations and he got to elevate new talent, but to me, he was never that important in my wrestling world.
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Porter
Bubba Ho-Tep
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Post by Porter on Sept 30, 2008 17:30:23 GMT -5
Hogan was booed when The Rock mentioned him at the HOF too.
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Post by azrael502 on Sept 30, 2008 18:40:41 GMT -5
I respect Hogan's influence, and he is arguably numero uno in the industry over the years. Don't like him but some of his promos are so bad, they're great. i have to agree with this i used to watch him back in the day but i have to admit i wanted him to lose and lose royal
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Sept 30, 2008 18:44:16 GMT -5
I respect him for what he has done for the industry, but as a person he seems like an ass. And his matches bored the crap out of me.
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theshowstoppa
Don Corleone
This is why I like Brooke.
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Post by theshowstoppa on Sept 30, 2008 19:29:17 GMT -5
Calling Hogan a douche for his past actions and giving Shawn a free pass is mind boggling to me. And the Impact Zone would crap on anyone who doesn't bleed TNA. I'll see your "bleeds TNA" and Raise you an Angle, Christian, Rhino, Team 3-D, Sting. I don't even like TNA, but have to point out, they don't get crapped on and they all came from the WWE or WCW or ECW.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Sept 30, 2008 19:48:37 GMT -5
Well, he called Austin "The Texas Rattlesnake", which is almost a household nickname. Same with "Best there is, best there was, and the best there ever will be" for Bret Hart. When I think of Hogan, the only nicknames that come to mind are "The Immortal" and "Hulkster", not "Real American", although that is his theme song.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Sept 30, 2008 19:48:53 GMT -5
Vince McMahon is the reason pro wrestling went mainstream. Obviously. But Hogan was reason he was able to do it. No Hogan, no Wrestlemania. No mainstream attention. It wouldn't have worked without him. Vince McMahon is the reason pro wrestling went mainstream. This. And if it wasn't for MTV, Mr. T, and Cyndi Lauper...Hogan would have not gotten as big as he did. Vince got the still new music channel, the hottest act in Hollywood, and arguably the hottest act in music and brought them all together with the WWF. Without T and Lauper, Wrestlemania would have tanked.
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Sept 30, 2008 20:20:59 GMT -5
Obviously. But Hogan was reason he was able to do it. No Hogan, no Wrestlemania. No mainstream attention. It wouldn't have worked without him. This. And if it wasn't for MTV, Mr. T, and Cyndi Lauper...Hogan would have not gotten as big as he did. Vince got the still new music channel, the hottest act in Hollywood, and arguably the hottest act in music and brought them all together with the WWF. Without T and Lauper, Wrestlemania would have tanked. Maybe, but at the same time, it was Hulk Hogan that was featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and Hogan that was primarily featured on Saturday Night Live. Were there many factors that went into the first Wrestlemania? Of course. But it's impossible to discount or downplay Hulk's importance in the formula. And following Wrestlemania I, Hogan had the company on his back for the better part of the next decade, and in a business where many guys on top either burn themselves out (Warrior, Lesnar) or become physically incapable of performing (Austin) after a few years on top, for the guy to have that long of a run is nothing less then extraordinary. And in addition to that, the guy turning heel and joining the nWo was the single driving force that piqued mainstream interest in wrestling for the second time. Sting, Savage, or anyone else wouldn't have had the impact that Hogan turning had. And the WWE owed that nWo angle with expanding the wrestling audience in general, giving the WWE the platform to push Austin as the new face of wrestling and eventually overtaking WCW. Long story short, Hogan's influence over professional wrestling in the United States is staggering. Easily the most influential wrestler of all time, and as wrestling fans, it's unfortunate how many people look past all he's done to bring wrestling to the point it's at now and improve the quality of life for people directly involved with the business.
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Post by kittylimits on Oct 1, 2008 0:20:43 GMT -5
I can't wait for Hogan to show up in the impact zone and the fans start chanting "THIS IS AWESOME!"
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The Clincher
Trap-Jaw
Laid back like a broken lawn chair.
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Post by The Clincher on Oct 1, 2008 0:27:10 GMT -5
Long story short, Hogan's influence over professional wrestling in the United States is staggering. Easily the most influential wrestler of all time, and as wrestling fans, it's unfortunate how many people look past all he's done to bring wrestling to the point it's at now and improve the quality of life for people directly involved with the business. Boom. I really think you had to be around and experience the first Wrestlemania to truly understand and respect what Hogan did for wrestling. To say Cindi Lauper and Mr. T had more to do with the success of WM than Hogan...well...that's just not the way it went down. At all. They absolutely helped bring in the casual audience, and the media, but Hogan kept them there.
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Cranjis McBasketball
Crow T. Robot
Knew what the hell that thing was supposed to be
Peace Love and Nothing But
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 1, 2008 0:36:59 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan is the biggest star in the history of pro wrestling....bar none.
And in no way deserves any of the hate he gets since, let's say....99% of it does not affect the audience of haters in any way, shape or form.
Penn & Teller could do an episode of B.S. on Hogan hate and have enough BS left over for Michael Moore to make a documentary.
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BxB
Unicron
Only the shift key stands between him and copyright infringement.
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Post by BxB on Oct 1, 2008 0:48:34 GMT -5
I'm not a huge Hogan fan, but I'd cheer the guy if I saw him live. I think he's always managed to entertain me, except for his brief come backs for the past couple of years. I enjoyed his heel run in WCW.
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Joekishi
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Joekishi on Oct 1, 2008 1:51:33 GMT -5
Quite honestly, the "Real American" moniker could apply to quite a few people.... now, if HBK would have said, "A Real American, Brother.." it would've gotten a bigger reaction. That's just my opinion, though. At the same time, Hogan HAS been trashed by the media and is dangerously overexposed these days. The same way nobody takes Ozzy seriously anymore. it's the curse of reality tv. Though, I think adding a brother here and there, or could clear up confusion, as one might think he'd be talking about Angle or Slaughter... I love Hulk Hogan. I don't care what anybody thinks of that, Hulk Hogan is the reason i love pro wrestling. Hogan is and always will be an overrated piece of crap. How are you rating him though? On the mic, great. Biggest Draw in wrestling for over 2 decades, an essential part of both wrestling booms, title reigns, and enough great matches/memories to secure him a spot in the hall of fame. I don't know how he's overrated, a lot of people tend to downplay everything he did awesome, and talk about 'da politics' Vince McMahon is the reason pro wrestling went mainstream. This. And if it wasn't for MTV, Mr. T, and Cyndi Lauper...Hogan would have not gotten as big as he did. Vince got the still new music channel, the hottest act in Hollywood, and arguably the hottest act in music and brought them all together with the WWF. Without T and Lauper, Wrestlemania would have tanked. Hogan was big in the AWA, and he was big in Japan, he was big around the world. The thing was, with his look and overwhelming Charisma he was able to get over. If you watch his earlier matches he wrestled a really stiff hard hitting style. His matches with Fujinami, Bockwinkle, and hell even Jerry Lawler are pretty good examples of what he could do without the limiters on. With Rocky 3 released, he was more in demand, and AWA took him to the top. WWF took Hogan while he was the top guy in AWA which was the top promotion above WWF and NWA, at that time. Then you put the WWF promotion machine behind him, and he learned the business side of things from Verne Gagne and Inoki. He knew what it took to promote himself. WWF would not have gotten that far with Bruiser Brody, Jimmy Snuka, or David Von Erich. WWF had casted him as their Superman. A huge super hero, who beat the odds, and talked like a maniac. Awesome. Hogan, Piper, Savage, and other top guys that Vince plucked from around the world/usa were the reasons he could go national, then world wide.
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Post by y2jfan on Oct 1, 2008 2:04:27 GMT -5
You guys should check out his Howard Stern appearance, he's been going through a lot lately, I'm feeling for him, as far as wrestling, I do think he's the best heel ever
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Post by BRAINFADE on Oct 1, 2008 5:03:55 GMT -5
Well, i started watching in 1992, so i didn't see Hulkamania in full swing. But i do respect what he has done in wrestling, the impact he had on the sport. Not a huge fan, but i respect him nonetheless.
However, i will never, EVER, forgive him for what he did to WCW- along with Bischoff, Russo and Nash.
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