Mac
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Post by Mac on Jan 8, 2009 19:40:45 GMT -5
I dont know why, As Hogan was my favorite wrestler in my youth and Austin was my favorite in my teens but I could care less whether this match happens or not.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 8, 2009 19:42:00 GMT -5
Why would anyone care now that Hogan just gave the finish away?
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 8, 2009 19:43:29 GMT -5
Why would anyone care now that Hogan just gave the finish away? Well, it's not like the whole WWE audience knows it and even so people would still tune in because it's Wrestlemania. And it's not like it's etched in stone either.
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Post by Hanz Moleman on Jan 8, 2009 19:45:18 GMT -5
I still think, if they are going to bring back Austin for wrestlemania 25, it should be against Cena. I think its the best way to turn Cena heel (I know I know, the money hes bringing in as a face and chances are it will never happen) But if there were to go that route, they could have Cena start bragging about there being a lack of competition or something. Bring in Austin as the great tweener character he can be. Have a good match a wrestlemania, ending in Austin landing a sick stunner. Trigger Cena losing it, turning massive heel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 19:47:52 GMT -5
I'd pay to see this match, regardless of the outcome. It's just one of those things that as a fan, I almost feel obliged to watch.
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Post by majesty on Jan 8, 2009 19:49:17 GMT -5
I still think, if they are going to bring back Austin for wrestlemania 25, it should be against Cena. I think its the best way to turn Cena heel (I know I know, the money hes bringing in as a face and chances are it will never happen) But if there were to go that route, they could have Cena start bragging about there being a lack of competition or something. Bring in Austin as the great tweener character he can be. Have a good match a wrestlemania, ending in Austin landing a sick stunner. Trigger Cena losing it, turning massive heel. The entire Cena concept goes well with the new kid product because he's the all American role model (as Jack Swagger gives me a stern glare) for said children to aspire to being. Turning heel wouldn't work not only because of the money but because creative would probably worry about the company image again. Their top role models will be a large steroid-obvious "animal" and a ruthless competitor that nails people with sledgehammers. Any new role models would need to find a way to get over, and if they fail at it there goes the kid product in addition to any hope of garnering positive press about the product itself. Hogan Austin, however, would be an amazing draw on top of letting both stars do their thing without worrying about jeopardizing the face of the company.
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crnau87
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Post by crnau87 on Jan 8, 2009 20:04:08 GMT -5
Nice to know Hogan's willing to put over up and Coming Young Talent Yea lets have Jack Swagger vs Hogan I'm sure that will draw a ton of $$$..... sarcastic dc.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Jan 8, 2009 20:10:21 GMT -5
Wow, Hogan claims he's willing to put over someone. Guess that means there a 100% chance he'd do it on the night!
I wouldn't care if Hogan went over Austin but believing that because he said he'd put someone over means he would is just as bad as those who think he should put over DJ Gabriel or someone.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 8, 2009 20:17:21 GMT -5
Just take a look at where Mania is taking place. Of course Hogan would be willing to lose to Austin. If Hogan were to beat Austin in Texas, snork the crowd would be pissed. Austin vs Cena would be better for the WWE. Cena would be put over by one of the 3 biggest stars in the history of pro wrestling. It would be the passing of the torch. Nice to know Hogan's willing to put over up and Coming Young Talent Yea lets have Jack Swagger vs Hogan I'm sure that will draw a ton of $$$..... sarcastic dc. Just have Hogan vs Cena. If Hogan, Austin or The Rock are going to be in a match at Mania, it should be against Cena. Give Cena that passing the torch moment. And yes, I'm still hoping for Cena vs The Rock.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 8, 2009 20:22:33 GMT -5
I don't believe him one bit. If he was willing to lose to Austin (or if Austin was willing to lose to Hogan) this would have happened already.
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Post by glorydays on Jan 8, 2009 20:29:02 GMT -5
Hogan knows more about the business than every obnoxious smark on this board combined. If losing to Austin makes business sense, Hogan will do it. Tapping out to Kurt Angle made no sense at all, but Hogan not only did it, but it was apparently his idea for a finish. Bobby Heenan in a shoot interview said Hogan would work with anyone if it meant making money, and I don't see how this is any different.
Personally, I'd rather not see this match. In 2002, sure. But now the fans are so young and Hogan/Austin have both been away from the ring for so long that it won't be anywhere near Hogan/Rock from six years ago in terms of fan support.
Keep it a "dream match". Although I'd love nothing more than Hogan beating Austin. I hated Austin in the 90's and have been a Hulkamaniac for life....plus reading the reaction from this forum would be worth the price by itself.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 8, 2009 20:41:16 GMT -5
Hogan knows more about the business than every obnoxious smark on this board combined. If losing to Austin makes business sense, Hogan will do it. Tapping out to Kurt Angle made no sense at all, but Hogan not only did it, but it was apparently his idea for a finish. Bobby Heenan in a shoot interview said Hogan would work with anyone if it meant making money, and I don't see how this is any different. Personally, I'd rather not see this match. In 2002, sure. But now the fans are so young and Hogan/Austin have both been away from the ring for so long that it won't be anywhere near Hogan/Rock from six years ago in terms of fan support. Keep it a "dream match". Although I'd love nothing more than Hogan beating Austin. I hated Austin in the 90's and have been a Hulkamaniac for life....plus reading the reaction from this forum would be worth the price by itself. The only way its happening this year is if Austin's winning.
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Post by glorydays on Jan 8, 2009 20:50:35 GMT -5
Hogan knows more about the business than every obnoxious smark on this board combined. If losing to Austin makes business sense, Hogan will do it. Tapping out to Kurt Angle made no sense at all, but Hogan not only did it, but it was apparently his idea for a finish. Bobby Heenan in a shoot interview said Hogan would work with anyone if it meant making money, and I don't see how this is any different. Personally, I'd rather not see this match. In 2002, sure. But now the fans are so young and Hogan/Austin have both been away from the ring for so long that it won't be anywhere near Hogan/Rock from six years ago in terms of fan support. Keep it a "dream match". Although I'd love nothing more than Hogan beating Austin. I hated Austin in the 90's and have been a Hulkamaniac for life....plus reading the reaction from this forum would be worth the price by itself. The only way its happening this year is if Austin's winning. WM is in Texas, so yes, Austin will be cheered and Hogan would have to be the bad guy, so Austin going over would make the most sense. Hogan knows that. He all but genuflected in front of Ric Flair in Charlotte during Reid's first match, knowing it was Flair territory. He knows what is good for business. With that said, if Hogan/Austin didn't happen in 2005 when Hogan cut a promo on Raw hyping it up, then it won't happen now. Too little, too late. The ship has sailed.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Jan 8, 2009 21:00:41 GMT -5
As much as I would love to see this match, I'm really hoping it doesn't happen. For starters, Austin's neck would play a big part in this match. I know Hogan said he would be careful, and I know he would be. But, this would make doing a lot of moves on Austin hard to accomplish, because one bad fall and Austin can be hurt badly. Also, I just really don't feel comfortable with Austin wrestling in the condition he is in. Him coming in to be a special referee, make a segment or stunner a few guys is all fine and dandy (yes, I just used the word 'dandy'). But, him stepping into the ring to put on a match at the risk that he's in, is just too scary and dangerous. If Hogan were to compete at WM25 (or anybody else for that matter), it should be against Cena or any of WWE's other top stars, to build their credibility and to grab that big match feeling (not that Austin/Hogan wouldn't have a big match feeling to it). I just don't want to see Hogan/Austin because of the major risk that would be at play.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 8, 2009 22:05:58 GMT -5
With the shape those two are in, a this is about as good as you can expect: Red's getting owned.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Jan 8, 2009 22:11:28 GMT -5
it'd generate some buyrates and bring back old fans that's for sure.
at least Hogan realizes there must be a winner.
I say give the nod to Hogan even though I think he's a POS. He did establish WM and Austin doesn't need it.
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hughmorris
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Post by hughmorris on Jan 8, 2009 22:38:06 GMT -5
Hulkamania will run wild one more time all over Stunning Steve Austin, brother!!! Or Stone Cold Steve Austin will stomp a mud hole all over orangamania and that's the bottom line....because stone cold said so!!! I personally wouldn't mind seeing this one...I grew up watching the immortal hulk hogan defend the WWE championship against the unstoppable monsters of the golden era, and by golden area i mean when he had golden hair on his head. Then there is Stunning Steve Austin who brought the E into another dimension with a bit of attitude. Some say he saved the E when it was up against wcw so IMHO this one should be written in the history books as one of the great dream matches that never took place.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Jan 8, 2009 22:53:10 GMT -5
Wow, I would love to see Austin beat Hogan cleanly. It'd be like the Rock did back in 2002, only better.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 8, 2009 23:06:10 GMT -5
I'd order WM just to see this match, and I can't be the only one. I don't give a damn about the current product, haven't ordered a PPV since...hmm...ONS 06. But I'd pay ANY THING THEY WANTED TO CHARGE for WM to see this.
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Post by The Varsity Club on Jan 8, 2009 23:27:45 GMT -5
on a side note JR is full of crap about letting wrestlers go outside the box with building a personality. All the damn interviews and segments are scripted to the t and so wwe style. the gimics are force fed by the wrestlers by the powers that be in the wwe and have to stay within their boundaries. thats what made the original ecw so good. and as we all know this is no ecw.
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