The Possibility of a Woman Becoming WWE Champion

[Eli]

Jan 4, 2009 22:16:46 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

Jan 4, 2009 21:31:41 GMT -5 Eli said:

Because god forbid any woman be taken seriously. After all, we're only here to cook, clean and make babies. Why should a woman surpass a man? Them wimmin' shuld be raisin' a family *long redneck rant on what women are good for*

Sorry if i came off as sexist, but im just sayin dat the crowd would crap all over it.

Lmao, my bad, I'm a bit of a women's rights advocate, so sorry for freaking out. Yeah, unfortunately, a large portion of the audience are stupid high school drop outs who spend all their paycheck on beer, and its them who see every diva as eye candy...and limit it to one diva match up per show.

[greeby]

Jan 4, 2009 16:28:57 GMT -5 Snitsky said:

Jan 4, 2009 16:18:16 GMT -5 Square said:

I'm really sorry but I could not think that Beth Pheonix could take Kane, Big Show, Vladamir Kozlov, The Great Khali or Batista.

this is what i said above- the only person who looked like they could take them on was chyna

if they bring back the cruiserweight title i can see beth and the cruiser weights going at it

They already did that with Jacqueline, so the novelty factor is gone
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mhqHOGYp1PI

[Bobby Womack]

itll never happen, and thank god for that

and by the way, beth is smaller than most of the midcarders on the roster, shes only slightly bigger than the women

[Magician under the moonlight]

I don't know. People crapped over the fact a Woman won the IC title and also when another won the cruiserweight title. If onewon the world title, it could be bad.

[efram]

as much as i would love to see a strong female becoming world champion it will never happen and the reason being is the majority of todays wrestling fans including some of you lot. ppl dont want to see a woman holding such a title because wwe has painted this picture of how a female in the wwe should look, act and wrestle so brining in a female for instance kong lets face it she would never get over with wwes audience and if you arent over you will never get championship gold (unless your sleeping with the undertaker of course), maybe way down the line a woman could but the wwe has a lot of changing to do for example to stop hiring bimbo models and trying to turn them into wrestlers and instead hire women based on their wrestling talent and a few years down the line then have a woman compete for the title and make history

now after saying all that kong vs angle for the TNA heavyweight championship is something i'd pay to see and i know sting is champ but angle is bound to win it back someday

[Robbymac]

Jan 5, 2009 0:01:17 GMT -5 efram said:

as much as i would love to see a strong female becoming world champion it will never happen and the reason being is the majority of todays wrestling fans including some of you lot. ppl dont want to see a woman holding such a title because wwe has painted this picture of how a female in the wwe should look, act and wrestle so brining in a female for instance kong lets face it she would never get over with wwes audience and if you arent over you will never get championship gold (unless your sleeping with the undertaker of course), maybe way down the line a woman could but the wwe has a lot of changing to do for example to stop hiring bimbo models and trying to turn them into wrestlers and instead hire women based on their wrestling talent and a few years down the line then have a woman compete for the title and make history

now after saying all that kong vs angle for the TNA heavyweight championship is something i'd pay to see and i know sting is champ but angle is bound to win it back someday

It has nothing to do with how WWE has conditioned us to think of females. It has to do with how all forms of legitimate sports have proven to us that women cannot compete on an equal level with men. If men and women were on the level athletically then there is no need for womens sports. They can just play on mens teams right?

[dh03grad]

Chyna in 1999 could have won it for a short time and would have no negative effect on business. Any other woman before or after? No.

[King of Fighters]

Yeah that was stupid of me, I'm sorry.

[chunkylover53]

Sorry to sound close minded, but a Woman should NEVER hold the World title, we get enough heat for Chyna and Jacqueline winning the other male titles. There's no credibly way for a Woman to defeat a Man in a wrestling match without outside interference. Maybe some here are more progressively thinking in that idea, but the casual fans(at least the ones I know) would crap all over the concept, especially if the people who watched during the Attitude Era heard about it. I can just imagine them saying something like "The quality of wrestling has gotten so bad they have to resort to THAT tactic?"

Also, no good can come out of male-female violence. If a Man beats up a Woman, he's a no-good scum, he should be locked up, castrated, whatever, but if a Woman beats up a Man, he's a sissy, he got beat up by a girl, his credibility would be shot down. Its scary to think they are Women out there who can beat up "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I'd be embarassed for him.

Even though professional wrestling is a fixed sport, it thrives on beliavabilty. Who is going to believe a Woman, who is noticably smaller, could beat up The Undertaker without his credibility being shot?

This is a subject that is scary in theory, and perhaps 1000 times worse in execution. I can see some indy fed doing that though.

[dh03grad]

Jan 5, 2009 1:33:15 GMT -5 chunkylover53 said:

Sorry to sound close minded, but a Woman should NEVER hold the World title, we get enough heat for Chyna and Jacqueline winning the other male titles. There's no credibly way for a Woman to defeat a Man in a wrestling match without outside interference. Maybe some here are more progressively thinking in that idea, but the casual fans(at least the ones I know) would crap all over the concept, especially if the people who watched during the Attitude Era heard about it. I can just imagine them saying something like "The quality of wrestling has gotten so bad they have to resort to THAT tactic?"

Also, no good can come out of male-female violence. If a Man beats up a Woman, he's a no-good scum, he should be locked up, castrated, whatever, but if a Woman beats up a Man, he's a sissy, he got beat up by a girl, his credibility would be shot down. Its scary to think they are Women out there who can beat up "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I'd be embarassed for him.

Even though professional wrestling is a fixed sport, it thrives on beliavabilty. Who is going to believe a Woman, who is noticably smaller, could beat up The Undertaker without his credibility being shot?

This is a subject that is scary in theory, and perhaps 1000 times worse in execution. I can see some indy fed doing that though.

Chyna winning the title with cheating would have been any different than 54 year old non wrester Vince McMahon winning the title with cheating?

[chunkylover53]

Jan 5, 2009 1:41:13 GMT -5 dh03grad said:

Jan 5, 2009 1:33:15 GMT -5 chunkylover53 said:

Sorry to sound close minded, but a Woman should NEVER hold the World title, we get enough heat for Chyna and Jacqueline winning the other male titles. There's no credibly way for a Woman to defeat a Man in a wrestling match without outside interference. Maybe some here are more progressively thinking in that idea, but the casual fans(at least the ones I know) would crap all over the concept, especially if the people who watched during the Attitude Era heard about it. I can just imagine them saying something like "The quality of wrestling has gotten so bad they have to resort to THAT tactic?"

Also, no good can come out of male-female violence. If a Man beats up a Woman, he's a no-good scum, he should be locked up, castrated, whatever, but if a Woman beats up a Man, he's a sissy, he got beat up by a girl, his credibility would be shot down. Its scary to think they are Women out there who can beat up "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I'd be embarassed for him.

Even though professional wrestling is a fixed sport, it thrives on beliavabilty. Who is going to believe a Woman, who is noticably smaller, could beat up The Undertaker without his credibility being shot?

This is a subject that is scary in theory, and perhaps 1000 times worse in execution. I can see some indy fed doing that though.

Chyna winning the title with cheating would have been any different than 54 year old non wrester Vince McMahon winning the title with cheating?

As I said, there's no credible way for a Woman to win the belt cleanly, and at the very least, Vince McMahon has a well put physique and could've been a wrestler if he was much younger, so I'd take him over a Woman champion any day. Now David Arquette, HELL NO. Then again, he didn't win the belt cleanly either.

[Bub (BLM)]

Bad idea, overall. Not because women can't be as good as men or anything like that, but for the simple fact that once the stunt was over, it'd be hard to re-integrate her back into the Women's division. How would anyone believe that the other Divas could take a woman who had been WWE Champion? It'd be like when Chyna won the Women's Title from Ivory. She was a former IC Champion. It wasn't believable at all for any of the other women to defeat her.

[btrox85]

If WCW were still around I think it could happen but other than that I say no. It was bad enough when Vince won it. I think that was the point when I was really sick of his ego getting in the way of the show and I lost intrest for a while.

[Joekishi]

Jan 5, 2009 1:33:15 GMT -5 chunkylover53 said:

Also, no good can come out of male-female violence. If a Man beats up a Woman, he's a no-good scum, he should be locked up, castrated, whatever, but if a Woman beats up a Man, he's a sissy, he got beat up by a girl, his credibility would be shot down. Its scary to think they are Women out there who can beat up "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I'd be embarassed for him.

That's why Bobby/Khan Jr. went to a no contest

[Pagan Warrior]

It would only work if they drop the Women's and Divas' Championship and make all the titles available for female competitors.
And only then, after some years of mixed mid-card title matches and a long build-up, Beth or Natalya could do it.

[Deleted]

Jan 5, 2009 2:06:41 GMT -5 Joekishi said:

Jan 5, 2009 1:33:15 GMT -5 chunkylover53 said:

Also, no good can come out of male-female violence. If a Man beats up a Woman, he's a no-good scum, he should be locked up, castrated, whatever, but if a Woman beats up a Man, he's a sissy, he got beat up by a girl, his credibility would be shot down. Its scary to think they are Women out there who can beat up "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I'd be embarassed for him.

That's why Bobby/Khan Jr. went to a no contest

That and Zombification always ends up in a DQ

[Eli]

My favorite hometown heroine.

[drjayphd (feat. Pitbull)]

Since I'm at work, I can't write the whole thing up right now. But assuming this thread stays open long enough, stay tuned for how I'd address the possibility, AKA...

How The Brian Kendrick Lost the WWE Championship To A Woman.

[drjayphd (feat. Pitbull)]

That's right, kids, it's time for:
How The Brian Kendrick Lost the WWE Championship To A Woman.

A couple of things that should be noted...
* This angle's pretty much gotta take place now.
* Theeeee Brian Kendrick gets the WWE Championship. As you'll see. It's hot-shotted just for the purposes of getting it on him.
* And ODB's not only signed, but ready to debut... nnnnnow.

Raw 1/5/09
Kelly Kelling Rodriguez, determined to have the final word vis-a-vis Randy Orton, tells Grisham backstage that she's going to call up her distant cousin and she'll be in town next week. Grisham asks what his name is, and KK scoffs, asking "He?"

Smackdown 1/9/09
Out of nowhere, Ye Olde Brian Kendrick beats Jeff Hardy for the WWE championship. Why? Well, Vickie Guerrero kicked Edge to the curb and wanted a man with intellect in her life.

Raw 1/12/09
KK grabs a cameraman backstage, dragging him to Orton's locker room. Right when the cameraman gets there, ODB busts down the door and starts beating the crap out of a surprised Orton. Orton fights her off before the agents come to break things up. Stephanie McMahon-Humperdink, having seen KK on the way by, restores order and tells KK that they can't have any more psychotic relatives showing up unannounced, and ODB's banned from Raw. ODB points out that she's already signed a contract, so McMahon-Humperdink tells her she's being traded to Smackdown for "future considerations". (Vickie Guerrero ends up buying her some Jamba Juice to complete the deal.)

Smackdown 1/16/09
Footage is shown of ODB jumping Orton. ODB dispatches (INSERT RANDOM HEEL DIVA HERE) in short order, bordering on squash territory. Maryse hobbles out to the ring and acknowledges her impressive debut, but she'll never get her hands on the Divas Championship. ODB, walking towards the entrance, remarks that she was never one to play with Barbies and chases after Maryse, who escapes before ODB can get to her.

Smackdown 1/23/09
ODB beats the hell out of another Diva, with Maryse at ringside. Agents and refs quickly break them up after a brief catfight, but ODB knocks out a couple of refs. The announcers are suitably shocked by how easily she took them out. Guerrero then announces a title match between the two for the Royal Rumble.

Royal Rumble 2009
ODB looks to have the match won, but Maryse gets a cheap win (roll-up con tights?). Despite losing the match, ODB pummels Maryse with her own title belt, trying to smash it over her head. The Usual Gang of Agents gives her a wide berth. A post-match interview has ODB venting about having to compete for a toy, and that she'd always played with the big boys... as Theeee Brian Kendrick walks by.

Smackdown 1/30/09
Guerrero, in a moment of clarity, decides that ODB's getting out of control and (after ODB shoots her mouth off in response) books her in a match against Kendrick. Kendrick offhandedly remarks that if she wants a real championship, he'll put it on the line, but seeing as how ODB's quite clearly lacking in intellect, it won't matter.

And so, the match
Kendrick comes into the match more confident than usual, while ODB's surprisingly focused. She gets the early advantage, sending Kendrick for a loop, but he quickly regains control, and is ready to finish with The Kendrick (tm). But ODB throws him off, he takes a nasty bump, and after a couple of clotheslines and some botched Zekerference, hits her finisher on a stunned Kendrick, getting the pinfall.

Smackdown 2/6/09
Kendrick regains the title after a crazed Edge takes her out backstage, looking to get back in Guerrero's life. This, of course, leads to a Kendrick/Psycho Edge feud for the title.

[Joekishi]

so we hot shot the title to a mid-carder then hotshot it to a woman good grief.

I take a crap on that idea