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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on May 2, 2009 0:50:23 GMT -5
I hate waiting until after the credits for scenes.
Boo.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 2, 2009 0:53:03 GMT -5
They were in Alpha Flight right? And when a vesion of her was on the Exiles team she was in love with and engaged with Wolverine before she killed him. Deadpool-The movies are cannon to the movies unfortunately. Yup. If I'm remembering correctly, Heather Hudson in the 616 universe was another one of Wolverine's past flings. Nope. She and Mac Hudson (Guardian) found a feral Logan and nursed him back to sanity. Over the years he's flirted with her and such, but he's always left her alone due to his friendship with Guardian.
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Post by King of Fighters on May 2, 2009 0:56:24 GMT -5
All so, I gotta give the movie credit for giving Cyke more awesome moments than the other three movies combined, sadly it was just one. And for the hell of it I shall post this
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Post by Joie De Vivre on May 2, 2009 1:00:05 GMT -5
I wasn't going to watch it, but now I'm interested in seeing how bad this movie might be.
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Post by Goldenbane on May 2, 2009 1:46:50 GMT -5
I guess I'll throw my thoughts on the movie into this:
Stuff I liked:
Sabertooth was awesome and well done. A very easy to hate villain. The change of actors didn't bother me. I felt this actor did great with what he had. Didn't like that Sabertooth ran on all fours, but that's easily forgettable.
Wolverine through out the years. I've never liked the "James Howlett" origin, and I'd still prefer to see it retconned, but for the movie, I guess it works just fine. It was fun seeing Wolvie in World War I, World War II, and the more modern war. I only wish there could have been a tiny nod to Captain America in the WW II sequence.
Silverfox was very well done. I have nothing against the actress or her performance. She was great.
Ryan Reynolds was awesome as Wade. Nuff said!
Loved Gambit. I thought the guy did great and his character was down perfectly.
Nothing against Blob, thought he did a great job, although I am a tiny bit confused as I thought the lame joke guy from X-3 (the dude who was big and fat, sat down between two people and became skinny) was supposed to be Blob.
Stuff I really didn't like:
"Deadpool" or as I prefer to call him, Weapon XI. Why? I realize these people hate costumes and won't make the super heroes and villains look as they are supposed to...but now they're completely revamping the look, powers, costume, and everything so it isn't even the same guy? This has been harked on already, so I won't say more than that.
I loved Cyclops in the movie...I thought he looked great and did some awesome stuff...but I just have to ask again...why? What was the point of having him in the movie? Just to say "Hey! Here's Cyclops, remember him? He's dead now!" Maybe if this is all leading up to something in X-men Origins: Magneto or X-men Origins: Professor X or even X-men 4, I'll understand...but right now it just seems totally out there since he couldn't really interact with Wolverine without ruining the previous films' cannon.
Stryker does all these awful and terrible things...and we all know how he ends up. It just seems...underwhelming. He deserved a much more brutal and painful and horrible death than that.
Why is Wolverine never killing or trying to kill anyone in this movie? I always thought Wolvie was like maybe one or two steps up from the Punisher...a bad ass who will kill evil doers in a heartbeat. Comic Wolverine would have shoved his claws into the head of that sniper agent who killed "the Hudsons." The spark thing was so fake and cheesy...Wolvie's more badass and direct than that.
SPEAKING OF...the "Hudsons" to paraphrase a line from Linkara...did the creators of this movie even READ a comic before they made this?
The amnesia thing was inhumanly cheesy and stupid. In the next movie sequel (not prequel like this one...) Wolverine should get hit on the head again and suddenly regain all his memories. Just to complete the cliche.
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Post by KingPopper on May 2, 2009 1:56:05 GMT -5
I loved Cyclops in the movie...I thought he looked great and did some awesome stuff...but I just have to ask again...why? What was the point of having him in the movie? Just to say "Hey! Here's Cyclops, remember him? He's dead now!" Maybe if this is all leading up to something in X-men Origins: Magneto or X-men Origins: Professor X or even X-men 4, I'll understand...but right now it just seems totally out there since he couldn't really interact with Wolverine without ruining the previous films' cannon. Isn't there an X-Men: First Class movie in the works?
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Post by Goldenbane on May 2, 2009 2:04:12 GMT -5
I loved Cyclops in the movie...I thought he looked great and did some awesome stuff...but I just have to ask again...why? What was the point of having him in the movie? Just to say "Hey! Here's Cyclops, remember him? He's dead now!" Maybe if this is all leading up to something in X-men Origins: Magneto or X-men Origins: Professor X or even X-men 4, I'll understand...but right now it just seems totally out there since he couldn't really interact with Wolverine without ruining the previous films' cannon. Isn't there an X-Men: First Class movie in the works? I hope so! I'd like to see Professor X, Cyclops, and Pheonix return as well as the mutant fixing pill get resolved. I just think Avengers is taking the right path to a "all these movies are connected" series.
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Post by King of Fighters on May 2, 2009 2:16:50 GMT -5
One more thing, why the HE:: wouldn't Scott remember the guy who saved his life? Thats a major gap in character logic.
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Post by knightrider01 on May 2, 2009 2:28:18 GMT -5
Maybe cause the entire time Scott was blindfolded.
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Post by dragonfire53511 on May 2, 2009 2:30:15 GMT -5
One more thing, why the HE:: wouldn't Scott remember the guy who saved his life? Thats a major gap in character logic. Scott never saw Logan face he had the guard he couldn't see through on !
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Post by King of Fighters on May 2, 2009 2:59:18 GMT -5
really feel stupid that I didn't thinl of that.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 4:48:25 GMT -5
On the Sabretooth front, I've been reading in the last few days that he was supposed to appear in X2, but was cut out of early drafts due to there already being too many characters, then canonically was killed in the aforementioned game. If only we'd seen that attitude in The Last Stand...
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on May 2, 2009 8:22:37 GMT -5
Nope. She and Mac Hudson (Guardian) found a feral Logan and nursed him back to sanity. Over the years he's flirted with her and such, but he's always left her alone due to his friendship with Guardian. Ah, alright. Well, I knew the two had a history, and given Wolverine's fondness for redheads I just assumed it was a fling at one point. My bad. Nothing against Blob, thought he did a great job, although I am a tiny bit confused as I thought the lame joke guy from X-3 (the dude who was big and fat, sat down between two people and became skinny) was supposed to be Blob. SPEAKING OF...the "Hudsons" to paraphrase a line from Linkara...did the creators of this movie even READ a comic before they made this? Two thoughts on this. First, I think the fat guy from X3 was supposed to be Phat or some such, some member of that odd group of X-Force celebrities who could increase his mass or whatever. And second, since the old man was named "Travis Hudson", and he spoke about a son, the old couple could just be Guardian's parents. And I think the entire point of their names was to show that they DID read the comic and that they were giving a little homage to something that they couldn't fit into the movie otherwise.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 2, 2009 13:14:24 GMT -5
Nope. She and Mac Hudson (Guardian) found a feral Logan and nursed him back to sanity. Over the years he's flirted with her and such, but he's always left her alone due to his friendship with Guardian. Ah, alright. Well, I knew the two had a history, and given Wolverine's fondness for redheads I just assumed it was a fling at one point. My bad. Nothing against Blob, thought he did a great job, although I am a tiny bit confused as I thought the lame joke guy from X-3 (the dude who was big and fat, sat down between two people and became skinny) was supposed to be Blob. SPEAKING OF...the "Hudsons" to paraphrase a line from Linkara...did the creators of this movie even READ a comic before they made this? Two thoughts on this. First, I think the fat guy from X3 was supposed to be Phat or some such, some member of that odd group of X-Force celebrities who could increase his mass or whatever. And second, since the old man was named "Travis Hudson", and he spoke about a son, the old couple could just be Guardian's parents. And I think the entire point of their names was to show that they DID read the comic and that they were giving a little homage to something that they couldn't fit into the movie otherwise. The guy from X3 was definitely Phat of the X-Statix.
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Post by polexia on May 2, 2009 13:46:07 GMT -5
just saw that poop pile of a movie. it made me want to run back to my deadpool comics to think of what might have been.
I mean REALLY they had Ryan Renolds (a decently good comecy actor) but he got to play deadpool for all of 5 minutes.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 2, 2009 13:56:59 GMT -5
just saw that poop pile of a movie. it made me want to run back to my deadpool comics to think of what might have been. I mean REALLY they had Ryan Renolds (a decently good comecy actor) but he got to play deadpool for all of 5 minutes. Well, Reynolds wouldn't have been capable of much more, and it's actually impressive that he's in it at all. He was shooting both Adventureland and The Engagement during Wolverine's filming, and literally shot his stuff on his own free time during his off days on the other two films. I guess when he heard that Wade was going to be in the movie, he went out of his way to get the role because he's been wanting to play Deadpool for about five years, according to Ryan himself.
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Post by Grendel on May 2, 2009 15:02:46 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why they are seperating the endings. It's going to confuse the hell out of people who don't see the Reynolds ending when the next movie with Deadpool is here and he shows up and goes "Oh, that other guy was just my clone." www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVPGqh94aeAUac-mWayPsUnOvG6wD97S2NL00It's pretty much FOX's crappy plan of telling the people who saw the leak that they are truly missing something. It's also a very crappy ploy to trick people to go see the movie again in hopes of possibly getting a different ending. What a bunch of snorktards. I have to see this movie again cause one of my friends wants to go and would get pissed if she knew I saw it already (which I don't get, because I never saw any of the X Men movies in the theatre with her, now I'm obligated to see Wolverine? That's her logic, I guess) and I'll probably be at another theatre. So I'll stick around and see what happens. Spoiler: I got the Stryker and Bar in Japan endings, and was scratching my head because I thought I would have gotten a Deadpool one.
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Post by rrm15 on May 2, 2009 16:49:13 GMT -5
I saw it last night. It was good. Pretty good, actually. If you turn your brain off and aren't really a comic fan its a fun ride.
Can someone tell me everything that was different between the comics and the movie? Besides Deadpool, which.....I actually really liked. The movie version of Deadpool was really cool. But what else was different?
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on May 2, 2009 17:06:50 GMT -5
Maverick/Agent Zero was different from his presentation in the comics. Which kinda sucks, as I'm a fan of his classic persona, but I can see why they made the changes that they did.
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Post by biafra on May 2, 2009 17:36:15 GMT -5
As a person who knows NOTHING about the X Men going in..never seen a movie or read a comic..I LOVED the movie.
I generally don;t care for comic based films..but I liked this better than The Watchmen and even The Dark Knight.
It even made me go out and buy the rest of the trilogy...
Of course if I knew these characters or anything about the movie going in I might think different...but coming from a guy with no preconcieved notions of expectations I give it a strong B+.
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