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Post by CrazySting on May 1, 2009 10:26:28 GMT -5
Kurt Angle's business manager Dave Hawk confessed to the Miami Herald that his client was offered a chance to go to drug rehab before he left WWE back in August 2006. "At the closure -- and mutually agreed release -- between Kurt Angle and WWE, Mr. Angle wants you and wrestling fans to know that he was offered a health and Wellness program by WWE at their conclusion," Hawk wrote to the Miami Herlald. In a followup email, Hawk added: "I appreciate the interest, but there is nothing more to say on the subject. As I mentioned before, on good terms Kurt and WWE mutually agreed to separate. At the time, WWE had offered Mr. Angle help in a Wellness program, if he was interested. Kurt is currently doing very well with TNA while keeping his life and career moving forward in a positive manor.'' To read the full story, visit www.miamiherald.com/sports/other/v-fullstory/story/1026972.htmlKurt was untruthful? Well, I am shocked. |
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Post by johnnyk9 on May 1, 2009 10:27:37 GMT -5
It's True, It's True
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Post by CrazySting on May 1, 2009 10:29:48 GMT -5
I'm surprised she called WWE before 911, to be honest.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on May 1, 2009 10:37:07 GMT -5
So basically....according to that at least.....it was a mutual seperation and WWE wanted Angle to get clean but he refused and went to TNA?
Maybe Angle really is crazy....
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Post by Snitsky on May 1, 2009 10:41:02 GMT -5
Maybe its just me but i remember kurt saying he was offered rehab when he told vince he was quitting..or something to that effect
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Post by CrazySting on May 1, 2009 10:41:03 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I don't think the claim that WWE won't let some guys of to go to rehab or take time off if they need it is that far fetched. Test wrote a blog about how when he was in WWE he overheard a conversaton between an agent and a higher up talking about a top talent who desperately needed to go to rehab (it could even have been Angle) but how they couldn't let him because he was too important to the show.
I think WWE are good at addressing the situation when it gets really bad. But, there are probably certain things they could nip in the bud if they got involved earlier. I can think of a lot of wrestlers who would have benefited from an earlier intervention.
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Post by Snitsky on May 1, 2009 10:44:15 GMT -5
@cenamark I disagree-The situation shouldnt be "really bad" before they do something about it-if WWE were interested in Kurts well being they would have dealt with the situation long before it got to a point where he was addicted to anything, its the same situation as the wellness policy only enforcing something when you have to- Money comes first to vince, if he didnt the wrestlers wouldnt be on the schedule they are on now, and they would add alcohol and marijuana to the wellness policy...I am glad kurt put his health first and left
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Post by Joekishi on May 1, 2009 10:46:03 GMT -5
So basically....according to that at least.....it was a mutual seperation and WWE wanted Angle to get clean but he refused and went to TNA? Maybe Angle really is crazy.... That was how WWE played it. I don't really believe Kurt came to blows with Vince. |
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Post by CrazySting on May 1, 2009 10:47:29 GMT -5
@cenamark I disagree-The situation should be "that bad" before they do something about it-if WWE were interested in Kurts well being they would have dealt with the situation long before it got to a point where he was addicted to anything, its the same situation as the wellness policy only enforcing something when you have to- Money comes first to vince, if he didnt the wrestlers wouldnt be on the schedule they are on now, and they would add alcohol and marijuana to the wellness policy...I am glad kurt put his health first and left I actually agreed that they should have helped out earlier, but according to everyone, except Kurt, they did offer him rehab and he turned them down. As for "Vince is only interested in money" eh, that's probably only partly true. Vince is a pretty complicated person. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 1, 2009 10:49:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised she called WWE before 911, to be honest. That this quote sounds fishy. Now lets be honest here. Angle been gone from the WWE since 06. Here we are in 09 three years later. Angle has not had the injuries he was getting in the WWE. If he was this bad on pain killers and ext he would be well dead by now. |
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Post by Snitsky on May 1, 2009 10:54:30 GMT -5
@cenamark I disagree-The situation should be "that bad" before they do something about it-if WWE were interested in Kurts well being they would have dealt with the situation long before it got to a point where he was addicted to anything, its the same situation as the wellness policy only enforcing something when you have to- Money comes first to vince, if he didnt the wrestlers wouldnt be on the schedule they are on now, and they would add alcohol and marijuana to the wellness policy...I am glad kurt put his health first and left I actually agreed that they should have helped out earlier, but according to everyone, except Kurt, they did offer him rehab and he turned them down. As for "Vince is only interested in money" eh, that's probably only partly true. Vince is a pretty complicated person. I meant to say situation "shouldnt be that bad" before they do something about it I am inclined to believe kurts side of the story mainly because he has been consistent with it since left but he also said not long ago that he and Vince have smoothed things out. I think after Benwahs tragedy there is more pressure on WWE to enforce the wellness policy, offer rehab to past employees etc but IMO if the Benwah tragedy didnt happen whose to say that anyone would get any type of help? Kurt IMO did what alot of wrestlers are scared to do- stand up for themself and say FU i am not doing this Vince IMO is stuck in a timewarp |
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Post by CrazySting on May 1, 2009 10:54:58 GMT -5
I'm surprised she called WWE before 911, to be honest. That this quote sounds fishy. Now lets be honest here. Angle been gone from the WWE since 06. Here we are in 09 three years later. Angle has not had the injuries he was getting in the WWE. If he was this bad on pain killers and ext he would be well dead by now. Kurt was bad with painkillers. He's said himself he had a huge drug problem. As for why he's still alive? Luck, I suppose. Jake Roberts shouldn't be alive either. |
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Post by CrazySting on May 1, 2009 10:55:59 GMT -5
I actually agreed that they should have helped out earlier, but according to everyone, except Kurt, they did offer him rehab and he turned them down. As for "Vince is only interested in money" eh, that's probably only partly true. Vince is a pretty complicated person. I meant to say situation "shouldnt be that bad" before they do something about it I am inclined to believe kurts side of the story mainly because he has been consistent with it since left but he also said not long ago that he and Vince have smoothed things out. I think after Benwahs tragedy there is more pressure on WWE to enforce the wellness policy, offer rehab to past employees etc but IMO if the Benwah tragedy didnt happen whose to say that anyone would get any type of help? Vince IMO is stuck in a tmewarp Kurt himself is clarifying the rehab story- though his manager. He's decided to be honest, I guess. But this is the first time he's ever actually admitted what he was origincally saying wasn't true. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 10:59:19 GMT -5
Kurt has changed his story so many times since he left, but just looking at how his body has shrunk and his erratic behavior anyone could tell you he was using.
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Post by Snitsky on May 1, 2009 10:59:23 GMT -5
I meant to say situation "shouldnt be that bad" before they do something about it I am inclined to believe kurts side of the story mainly because he has been consistent with it since left but he also said not long ago that he and Vince have smoothed things out. I think after Benwahs tragedy there is more pressure on WWE to enforce the wellness policy, offer rehab to past employees etc but IMO if the Benwah tragedy didnt happen whose to say that anyone would get any type of help? Vince IMO is stuck in a tmewarp Kurt himself is clarifying the rehab story- though his manager. He's decided to be honest, I guess. But this is the first time he's ever actually admitted what he was origincally saying wasn't true. - like i said before i do remember him saying that he was offered rehab but it was at a point where he was saying he was going to leave WWE and that was something they threw out in the hopes of making him stay |
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Post by Snitsky on May 1, 2009 11:01:07 GMT -5
Kurt has changed his story so many times since he left, but just looking at how his body has shrunk and his erratic behavior anyone could tell you he was using. every interview i have heard of kurts he has said the same story-only recently he did say he and vince smoothed things out..but hey i havnt listened to all his interviews just a few...infact it may have been the howard stern interview he said he and vince ironed out their issues |
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Post by Miss RKO on May 1, 2009 11:12:53 GMT -5
So basically....according to that at least.....it was a mutual seperation and WWE wanted Angle to get clean but he refused and went to TNA? Maybe Angle really is crazy.... I could have sworn Angle tried to make out the opposite so yes it does appear he was either crazy or just flat out lied.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 11:15:03 GMT -5
I'm surprised she called WWE before 911, to be honest. That this quote sounds fishy. Now lets be honest here. Angle been gone from the WWE since 06. Here we are in 09 three years later. Angle has not had the injuries he was getting in the WWE. If he was this bad on pain killers and ext he would be well dead by now. One thing you have to realize is that wrestlers often aren't "addicted" to the painkillers in the sense that they have a habit for them. They're "addicted" to them in the sense that they're in a lot of pain if they don't take them. Doesn't mean that's always the case of course, but it's common enough. Take away WWE's heavy road schedule where people work 3 matches a week, and those constant aches and pains have time to recover, making the step off of heavy painkiller use a lot easier. |
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Post by CrazySting on May 1, 2009 11:15:33 GMT -5
Kurt has changed his story so many times since he left, but just looking at how his body has shrunk and his erratic behavior anyone could tell you he was using. every interview i have heard of kurts he has said the same story-only recently he did say he and vince smoothed things out..but hey i havnt listened to all his interviews just a few...infact it may have been the howard stern interview he said he and vince ironed out their issues He also did an interview shorty after he left WWE claiming he's been clean for 2 years, which was complete B.S. He changes his story about how long he's been clean a lot. |
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Post by Snitsky on May 1, 2009 11:19:19 GMT -5
every interview i have heard of kurts he has said the same story-only recently he did say he and vince smoothed things out..but hey i havnt listened to all his interviews just a few...infact it may have been the howard stern interview he said he and vince ironed out their issues He also did an interview shorty after he left WWE claiming he's been clean for 2 years, which was complete B.S. He changes his story about how long he's been clean a lot. I think when it comes to how long someone is/isnt clean i dont think anyone apart from the individual can know that-same with someone using steroids we can only speculate |
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