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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jul 8, 2005 3:01:38 GMT -5
*cue entrance with trailers*
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Post by MCP Hates You on Jul 8, 2005 3:02:37 GMT -5
They should ride in SUVs, so that they can hit the slopes quicker.
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Post by davari on Jul 8, 2005 3:02:56 GMT -5
The USA is being just as terrooristic over there in Iraq,a place nowhere near the place where the real culprit is What? I can't believe.....nevermind. Please.
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Post by davari on Jul 8, 2005 3:04:48 GMT -5
Just a couple things. 2. I know this is a touchy subject, but let's be careful not to flame each other or stray too far into political territory. USA = Terrorists because of Iraq yo!
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jul 8, 2005 3:05:29 GMT -5
They should ride in SUVs, so that they can hit the slopes quicker. fine then
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jul 8, 2005 3:06:22 GMT -5
Just a couple things. 2. I know this is a touchy subject, but let's be careful not to flame each other or stray too far into political territory. USA = Terrorists because of Iraq yo! ............I'm not even gonna justify that with a remark
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 8, 2005 3:13:17 GMT -5
I said they were ski masks, not terrorist masks.
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Post by srwa on Jul 8, 2005 5:08:50 GMT -5
Wow WWE has confirmed my thoughths that there all a bunch of close mindied racisit pricks with a if it aint Ammerica I dont give a f**k attitude this is the first ever angle I have ever seen in over 16 years of watching wrestling that I have found offensive.
The thing is that with or without the tragedey in London yesterday this has no place at all in wrestling ever
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Post by jennie on Jul 8, 2005 6:46:37 GMT -5
Honestly, if I was a WWE investor, I'd be trying to kick McMahon out of the top job over this. It's utterly despicable and it's not going to go down well with overseas fans, which is the only place WWe is doing well at the moment. Nice move, moron.
This is way, way worse than the 24 controversy, 'cause 24 doesn't just portray Arabs or Muslim as villains.
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Post by jaguarshark on Jul 8, 2005 6:51:42 GMT -5
I'm really not offended by this, maybe its because i dont in any way see a single connection to the events in London.
If he'd ran a replay of the DX Bus getting blown up... yeah i'd go apeshit... but meh, im not getting into it.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jul 8, 2005 6:53:48 GMT -5
After the masked men choked out Undertaker, did anyone catch Hassan drop to his knees in the aisleway and yell "Praise Allah"? For a bunch of "random guys in ski masks" to attack Taker, Hassan sure had a religious experience over it.
Again that's just my opinion, I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I personally feel that WWE was trying to simulate a terrorist beating in order to be edgy and to demonstrate an awareness of current events. I just don't think we needed this.
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Jul 8, 2005 6:56:34 GMT -5
i think its in poor taste the whole angle iaint gonna start getting angry, and its good they did a edit for the uk smackdown on sky sports
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Post by jaguarshark on Jul 8, 2005 6:56:53 GMT -5
After the masked men choked out Undertaker, did anyone catch Hassan drop to his knees in the aisleway and yell "Praise Allah"? For a bunch of "random guys in ski masks" to attack Taker, Hassan sure had a religious experience over it. I may be way off the mark here.... but it seems like everyone in this thread seems to be completely mixing up Religious Fanatics with Terrorists
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jul 8, 2005 7:03:00 GMT -5
After the masked men choked out Undertaker, did anyone catch Hassan drop to his knees in the aisleway and yell "Praise Allah"? For a bunch of "random guys in ski masks" to attack Taker, Hassan sure had a religious experience over it. I may be way off the mark here.... but it seems like everyone in this thread seems to be completely mixing up Religious Fanatics with Terrorists A lot of terrorists are motivated by religion. That's what Jihad, or "holy war" is about. Wow, I never thought I would use the word Jihad on a WWE message board! Score!
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Post by jaguarshark on Jul 8, 2005 7:12:53 GMT -5
A lot of terrorists are motivated by religion. That's what Jihad, or "holy war" is about. Wow, I never thought I would use the word Jihad on a WWE message board! Score! I understand where the missconception comes from, but its a pretty rash generalisation (not that im trying to condone either party) But from what i've read of smackdown, it would seem they were trying to portray Religious Fanatics rather than Terrorists.
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Post by liokaiser on Jul 8, 2005 7:19:40 GMT -5
Smelled of something we've been wondering, Russo writing for Smackdown. Yeah I found that really out of line and a disclaimer to run like that Shoulda put a thing on at the start of the show not the middle of a match. Too much like a weather warning (which I thought it was when first started coming across the screen.) Used to a normal sneak in and jump thing but the choke out was just wrong, talk about turning somebody off of wrestling. Yeah I said that, was in a chat and mentioned this, response "As a long time wrestling fan, that just turned me off of the sport"
Who ever wrote that idea in my book should be canned.
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Post by amsiraK on Jul 8, 2005 7:34:04 GMT -5
Smelled of something we've been wondering, Russo writing for Smackdown. Yeah I found that really out of line and a disclaimer to run like that Shoulda put a thing on at the start of the show not the middle of a match. Actually, it was on a few times during the show. They covered the bases on warning us. OK, here's my take. It was tasteless, stupid and unnecessary even without the London bombings taken into account. But it's TV. Was it upsetting to watch? Yeah, because it evoked those videos of the guys beheading people. And Yeah again because it's going to go mercilessly pigeonhole Mark Magnus/Mohammed Hassan for a long time. I liked him as the disgruntled guy who couldn't catch a break. Now, he's a terrorist. Stupid decisions by the writers got him there. Someone needs to teach the pencil-monkeys about continuity. He started out proclaiming how he was ripped on because he was Arab-American and was tired of being treated like a terrorist. HELLO! Now he's exactly what he was complaining about. Cheap, cheap heat. Not even good cheap heat like dissing the local hockey team. I'm more annoyed by this than by the whole "but London got bombed" thing. They didn't know that when they taped it. London was still having a happy freak-out about getting the Olympics. And unless they had something else sitting around to plug in there, editing it out would have been impossible.
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Post by starking18 on Jul 8, 2005 7:35:10 GMT -5
The thing that bothered me most was that they just totally destroyed the idea behind Hassan's character. His whiny heelish nature was bred from finger-pointing and bad looks he gets just for being "arab-american" and now they have him embrace the stereotype he was trying to fight against. His character although it was a little much at times (throat-slash gestures, etc...) has always been smart, well-spoken and a perfect heel in this day in age, but now much like many other angles and superstars, he has jumped the shark for some quick heat. Lame. Now with the whole london bombing the sensitivity around his character is increased. All things considered his character might be unrepairable at this point. I posted this in another thread: ... this is rediculous. Hassan has said over and over that he is in no way a terrorist, just a normal American, and we treat him like he is a suspected terrorist , which is the gist of his "heel" complaining in his promos, and now he is going to have guys who dress and act like the terrorists or the insurgents? Political and cultural sensitivity aside, this is just dumb from a character stand point and it defeats his own argument. Edit: Karisma, you posted right as I was typing. Sorry if I repeat some of your points. Smart minds think alike .
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Post by jennie on Jul 8, 2005 7:46:06 GMT -5
I'm more annoyed by this than by the whole "but London got bombed" thing. They didn't know that when they taped it. London was still having a happy freak-out about getting the Olympics. And unless they had something else sitting around to plug in there, editing it out would have been impossible. Actually, London didn't even have the Olympics when they taped it... As for the editing, I refer you to THIS informative article on PWTorch.com.
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Post by snitskyman411 on Jul 8, 2005 7:55:57 GMT -5
VAL VENIS was one of the henchmen/terrorists whatever
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