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Post by knightrider01 on Jul 25, 2009 14:53:22 GMT -5
Be like David Caruso in Jade. Do you want me to be like David Caruso in Jade?
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jul 25, 2009 15:18:29 GMT -5
I just watched the episode of Freaks and Geeks where Cindy says Sam is like her sister.
That really hit home for my high school years lol.
I don't question it. There are girls that like the "me...or us" kind og guys. They tend to find you. Even more so after dating a few assholes, some actually get it and look to a good guy.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 25, 2009 15:23:12 GMT -5
Also, s l i k? I think I found out what your problem is. You live in LA. :-p This. I'm going to school in LA county and have been without a girlfriend since I started. I'm not a nice guy. I'm a snarky, sarcastic, good-looking dude. My only problem is that I'm intelligent and sophisticated as well. California girls seem to be hot for simpletons. Yeah... stereotyping one way or the other doesn't really help. It isn't really about being a nice guy or a bad guy, it's more about being confident in yourself and not being overly immature in front of the opposite sex. Yeah, you need to get in touch with your inner asshole, but at the same time, if you don't believe in yourself, how is anyone supposed to believe in you? As far as the intelligent women in LA, the ones that have the choices are women -- they are offered dick every day, every where that they go. It's up to them to choose which guy they wish to spend more time with. What makes you stand out from the hundreds of other guys that a woman has hit on them? If you're a bad guy, but the same as everyone else around you, you still aren't going to get the girl.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 25, 2009 16:01:14 GMT -5
Be like David Caruso in Jade. Just as long as you're not like David Caruso from CSI Miami.
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Post by Thomas Powers of Paine on Jul 25, 2009 17:45:07 GMT -5
Hey hey, just because I'm not nice doesn't mean I'm bad. I have a lot of compassion, but mostly for children and animals. Because they're innocent, whereas adults make their own misery.
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Post by domrep on Jul 25, 2009 20:08:26 GMT -5
For some reason this thread makes me want to go see the 40 year old Virgin.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jul 25, 2009 20:30:49 GMT -5
That was an awesome read. I knew a girl like that before.
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Post by The_Punisher on Jul 25, 2009 20:40:38 GMT -5
I refuse to jump through hoops in romance.
I strike first.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2009 20:43:44 GMT -5
For anyone so upset that being "The Nice Guy" isn't getting you anywhere, maybe you should follow a different example... Sure don't be a nice guy, be a guy who has bad drug and drinking problems, no shows an event that's the way to go! But in all seriousness, I don't think that is the problem, I believe women have different tastes, so it depends on them who they will go with. You can still be nice even if you do have a personality or unique trait, because being nice is the first step. Just don't be rude or selfish. thou shalt not speak of my Idol in that manner...personal hell through addiction is not a "joke"....there's no such thing as a "nice guy"...everyone has the qualities to be a decent human being to the female species...even the so called "douche bags"...but let me tell you this my friend...while your at home making that mixed tape for the girl the "douche bag" has the confidence to take her out...No confidence in oneself is a huge weakness for self proclaimed "nice guys"...they always tend to be overly self deprecating and their own worst enemies...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2009 21:13:07 GMT -5
Don't bend over backwards and worship the ground that women walk on, but try not to be a total jerk either. You may not have girls throwing their bras at you 24/7, but you'll meet someone. Especially if you stop looking, ironically enough.
You see, women can sense this sort of thing. If you are desperate for a girlfriend it shows and women see right through it. If you just concentrate on being happy with yourself and your life, you'll start to notice more girls smiling at you, and some even flirting with you.
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Post by The_Punisher on Jul 25, 2009 21:16:30 GMT -5
And the worst part is, they know it, they know the system, they know how it works, and people like me, who have to wear the yellow star of being slow, who can't read body language have to suffer a life of loneliness.
Think any girl at my high school would date the boy who took the short bus?
Absolutely not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2009 21:21:10 GMT -5
Don't bend over backwards and worship the ground that women walk on, but try not to be a total jerk either. You may not have girls throwing their bras at you 24/7, but you'll meet someone. Especially if you stop looking, ironically enough. You see, women can sense this sort of thing. If you are desperate for a girlfriend it shows and women see right through it. If you just concentrate on being happy with yourself and your life, you'll start to notice more girls smiling at you, and some even flirting with you. I concur...it seems that though these "nice guys" tend to treat women as life goals and prized possessions instead of another person going through the same emotional turmoil that the nice guy is experiencing...stereotyping is horrible but it all boils down into having the confidence in yourself to know that with or without a woman beside you, you can, and will stand up for yourself and be a man...its not about being edgy its about being all that you can be and being mature...Women, and I love them so, are not royalty to be worshipped...they are like you and I but with an even better sense of instability in a man....
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Post by Joie De Vivre on Jul 25, 2009 22:43:06 GMT -5
Because you're going after the wrong kind of girl, probably. Bingo. Don't waste time on someone who isn't going to appreciate you for who you are. I learned that the hard way just recently.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 25, 2009 22:48:25 GMT -5
Meh, everyone I knew who was in a relationship had it end badly. The lucky ones got emotional trauma. The unlucky ones got debt and unwanted kids.
Screw it. Our society is too superficial and self-centered for relationships. Just get some money, have some fun, and don't obsess over long-term dating/marriage. If you get lucky, good. If you don't...then you won't have to worry about alimony and family members that will hate your guts in a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2009 23:02:41 GMT -5
Meh, everyone I knew who was in a relationship had it end badly. The lucky ones got emotional trauma. The unlucky ones got debt and unwanted kids. Screw it. Our society is too superficial and self-centered for relationships. Just get some money, have some fun, and don't obsess over long-term dating/marriage. If you get lucky, good. If you don't...then you won't have to worry about alimony and family members that will hate your guts in a few years. My wife and I have been married for several years, are not in debt, and do not have any kids nor do we plan to. We are very happy and very much in love. My sister has been with the same guy since they were 16 and despite the fact that they are now in their mid-30's they still act all lovey-dovey to each other and when they speak of one another they both come off as high school kids with massive crushes. Not everyone is miserable.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Jul 25, 2009 23:02:50 GMT -5
Well, don't be self-loathing and don't complain all the time. Blow off women, especially if they start to annoy you. Make yourself as unattainable as possible. Advertise your strengths in dating ads. Grow a killer goatee.
You may not get laid doing all of this but at least you won't be seen as a pussy.
Nothing wrong with being sensitive, especially if you do it in a James Dean-like way where you're the mysterious guy that likes to take risks.
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Post by theryno665 on Jul 25, 2009 23:06:12 GMT -5
Trust me, I have NO problem with being unattainable. In fact, it works TOO well.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 25, 2009 23:11:14 GMT -5
My wife and I have been married for several years, are not in debt, and do not have any kids nor do we plan to. We are very happy and very much in love. My sister has been with the same guy since they were 16 and despite the fact that they are now in their mid-30's they still act all lovey-dovey to each other and when they speak of one another they both come off as high school kids with massive crushes. Not everyone is miserable. I don't care if I come across as miserable, I'm no doubt LESS miserable than an individual I knew who dropped out of college due to a failed relationship. Our society sucks, it preaches all this unrealistic crap about "true love" that makes people all whiny and emo whenever something goes wrong. Maybe I'm just too reserved, but I don't like pretending to be something I'm not and going crazy about relationships in the most selfish, narciscisstic culture the world has ever known.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2009 23:18:11 GMT -5
My wife and I have been married for several years, are not in debt, and do not have any kids nor do we plan to. We are very happy and very much in love. My sister has been with the same guy since they were 16 and despite the fact that they are now in their mid-30's they still act all lovey-dovey to each other and when they speak of one another they both come off as high school kids with massive crushes. Not everyone is miserable. I don't care if I come across as miserable, I'm no doubt LESS miserable than an individual I knew who dropped out of college due to a failed relationship. Our society sucks, it preaches all this unrealistic crap about "true love" that makes people all whiny and emo whenever something goes wrong. Maybe I'm just too reserved, but I don't like pretending to be something I'm not and going crazy about relationships in the most selfish, narciscisstic culture the world has ever known. I was not at all trying to imply that you as an individual were miserable. In fact, I normally quite enjoy reading your posts and agree with a lot of what you have to say. What I was disagreeing with was the implication that every relationship is bad and everyone winds up with a crappy life afterwords. Yes, many people have bad relationships, and I was in a very terrible one myself for four years. A lot of people wind up burned and it sucks, but I don't think it's fair to say that it's always like that.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 25, 2009 23:19:37 GMT -5
You're right. I just want people to not feel they have to pretend to be something else. Any sort of a relationship built on falsehood won't work. Obviously yours is very honest.
I didn't mean to offend you.
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