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Post by Lance Uppercut on Sept 15, 2005 23:06:49 GMT -5
I dont' mean necessarily bad moves. Just ridiculous how they always manage to fit in a match.
Mine would be:
Shelton Benjamin's Dragon Whip. I mean my god, how many people are going to catch his leg when he goes for a kick before they go "maybe it's a bad idea to throw his leg and spin him around"?
Rey Misterio's 619: It was cool the first time, and I liked how he modified his old wcw rey misterio jr. fake out, but come on. Every match?
Stinkface: come on, you know what's coming, why you staying in the corner?
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Post by viscera on Sept 15, 2005 23:08:30 GMT -5
The Worm: Also See People's Elbow and Atomic Leg Drop
Overdrive: Ummm... how does that hurt anyone?!
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Post by jack22 on Sept 15, 2005 23:08:50 GMT -5
The Hulk-up thing
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 15, 2005 23:12:20 GMT -5
ego trip
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Post by admiralcrunchy™ on Sept 15, 2005 23:13:24 GMT -5
gotta agree with JMoney...I hate both those moves and they seem to be in every match...also the new Cena punches he stole from Buh Buh Ray
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Post by hakushi on Sept 15, 2005 23:32:28 GMT -5
Pepsi Plunge, (he's in wwe)
honestly who goes up, then FLIES backwards off the top rope?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Sept 15, 2005 23:34:51 GMT -5
Pepsi Plunge, (he's in wwe) honestly who goes up, then FLIES backwards off the top rope? A pedigree on the top rope right? Yeah even without HHH I really can't see that move on a regular basis. I'm still wondering how many different ways Kennedy can get his opponent to hit the top rope so he can do his move. Sooner or later people are going go "why do they keep going up there if that's how he does his finisher?"
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Post by hakushi on Sept 15, 2005 23:38:29 GMT -5
It's not the move itself it's how it's performed. Punk gets them in the pedigree position, he climbs the top, the the opponent flies off backwards all by himself.
THe pedigree-er usually drags the opponent.
but in this move, the opponent basically does a vader bomb off the top.
If he did it Super Butterfly suplex style, where he'd set them up for the super plex, then drag them off into the center with the pedigree..(which he's done like 3 times) it's cool
but I don't think Punk can get that much height by himself
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Post by unsilent on Sept 15, 2005 23:42:24 GMT -5
Five-Knuckle Shuffle. I never understood the need for all that.
And most moves that involve so much extraneous movement just to deliver a regular hit. But you have to give the Rock some credit on the elbow, he purposely did that as an insult/homage to Hogan.
Also, Tajiri's Tarantula. Nothing in his moveset would actually point to a need for a submission move, much less, despite being so damn cool. I'm just starting to notice it, but Kennedy's finisher (is it officially called the Green Bay Plunge?) is being set up similar to how you've been describing the Pepsi Plunge; would-be attacker climbs turnbuckle, gets hit and suffers finisher.
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Post by Phoenix on Sept 16, 2005 1:40:47 GMT -5
LOL i called that flaw in Kennedys finisher like 2 weeks ago
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Post by vitamink on Sept 16, 2005 1:44:51 GMT -5
I think I saw Kennedy lift the opponent to the top once before to do it.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Sept 16, 2005 1:50:39 GMT -5
gotta agree with JMoney...I hate both those moves and they seem to be in every match...also the new Cena punches he stole from Buh Buh Ray Wasn't Bubba's punches followed by a pelvic thrust then an old Dusty Bionic elbow? Cena's more of a Popey thing going.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 16, 2005 2:20:18 GMT -5
Does no-one see a problem with the Styles Clash? It has always seemed contrived to me.
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Post by boiledewokthe3rd on Sept 16, 2005 3:22:13 GMT -5
That stupid, stupid arm-drag thing Cena does where he just sits down leaving the other guy to hurl himself through the air, it does not look safe either.
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Post by unsilent on Sept 16, 2005 5:16:04 GMT -5
But you have to give the Rock some credit on the elbow, he purposely did that as an insult/homage to Hogan. Explain? Somewhere in his book, he said something about taking an ordinary move and glorifiying/electryfying it, ala Hogan. So that's pretty much it, the People's Elbow is contrived, because the Rock was pretty much modelling it after the Atomic Leg Drop, whether to insult Hogan (how a simple move can be made a FINISHER), or pay homage to him.
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Post by invaderdave on Sept 16, 2005 8:06:32 GMT -5
Does no-one see a problem with the Styles Clash? It has always seemed contrived to me. I don't see what's so contrived about it. The way he sets it up is with a powerbomb position, raises him up and gets him in Clash position.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Sept 16, 2005 8:29:29 GMT -5
Does no-one see a problem with the Styles Clash? It has always seemed contrived to me. I don't see what's so contrived about it. The way he sets it up is with a powerbomb position, raises him up and gets him in Clash position. The weird part is how he has to sort of drop em and hold them by their thighs and position his legs behind their arms. they always just let him. No one bothers to counter by keeping their arms in.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Sept 16, 2005 8:30:56 GMT -5
That stupid, stupid arm-drag thing Cena does where he just sits down leaving the other guy to hurl himself through the air, it does not look safe either. I don't see anything wrong with that (although awkward) it's just a standard hip toss except he lands on his butt instead of staying stationary on the ground.
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Post by Psy on Sept 16, 2005 9:22:26 GMT -5
CM Punk could modify the Pepsi Plunge intoa tornado-pedigree sort of thing. Would look wicked onto a chair.
The 619 looks so contrived to me. In no other matches to people fall onto the second rope like that, only when fighting Rey.
Most of the chokeslams too. Why don't they just sit down or hit his hand or arm when he grabs their neck?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 16, 2005 9:39:40 GMT -5
I'm not necessarily a big fan of Carlito, but Hogan made him look like a tool in the tag match a couple of months ago. After a couple of punches, Hogan hit the big boot and let Carlito lay there unmoving for about 30 seconds before hitting the leg droop. (Yes, I meant to mispell it)
I'm also bothered by people rolling into position for top rope moves in rather obvious ways.
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