Above Average
Wade Wilson
Being Held Down by the Man and Several "Women"
Old School Tope Con Fiveo!!!
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Post by Above Average on Oct 8, 2005 19:03:22 GMT -5
No I didn't. I didn't personally know Owen, so I don't see why I would.
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Post by rvdecwfan on Oct 8, 2005 19:05:35 GMT -5
Well, for one you could feel empathy for his family and friends who DID know him....
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Above Average
Wade Wilson
Being Held Down by the Man and Several "Women"
Old School Tope Con Fiveo!!!
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Post by Above Average on Oct 8, 2005 19:08:51 GMT -5
Oh I do feel bad for his family and friends and for Owen himself. It was a tragic event, no doubt. But that doesnt dictate that I'm going to be upset by it, thats all I'm saying.
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Post by jack22 on Oct 8, 2005 19:09:52 GMT -5
It's unhealthy to only feel upset for people who you know. Quite selfish too. Not a slate against you mate, but there is an element of selfishness involved in declaring your position that unless you know somebody then you do not feel it appropriate to grieve or to feel upset at their passing because you do not know them and therefore it doesn't affect your life directly so there's no point.
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Post by rvdecwfan on Oct 8, 2005 19:10:30 GMT -5
You got a 1000 post. Congratulations.
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Above Average
Wade Wilson
Being Held Down by the Man and Several "Women"
Old School Tope Con Fiveo!!!
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Post by Above Average on Oct 8, 2005 19:12:04 GMT -5
It's unhealthy to only feel upset for people who you know. Quite selfish too. Not a slate against you mate, but there is an element of selfishness involved in declaring your position that unless you know somebody then you do not feel it appropriate to grieve or to feel upset at their passing because you do not know them and therefore it doesn't affect your life directly so there's no point. People die every single day and nobody hears about it in most cases. If we were to grieve every single person's death that occured, then we would be grieving forever. Just saying...
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Post by jack22 on Oct 8, 2005 19:14:56 GMT -5
Well what would be wrong with that?
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Post by rvdecwfan on Oct 8, 2005 19:17:34 GMT -5
i can kind of see what Above Average is saying. I mean...its not like he questioned other people FOR crying..he is just saying he doesnt get emotional unles he knows the person. Not saying wether thats good or bad but its not like he insulted Owen or anything.
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Post by jack22 on Oct 8, 2005 19:19:10 GMT -5
I really couldn't care less if he was my point was higher than that. Christ I sound pompus tonight .
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Post by rvdecwfan on Oct 8, 2005 19:21:58 GMT -5
You had a point?
You are pompous tonight? Just tonight?
Also...Mr Average just doesnt want to cry. Thats his right. Its his party...and he will cry if he wants to. Cry if he wants to. You would cry too if it happened to you. But apparently..he wouldnt. And thats...fine.
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Post by jack22 on Oct 8, 2005 19:23:51 GMT -5
Well there are a few things I wish to establish with you first before we go any further.
The first is why do you feel that crying is a voluntary emotion?
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Post by rvdecwfan on Oct 8, 2005 19:26:07 GMT -5
Well..if its something you cant control either way you cant really get mad that he DIDNT do it. What was he supposed to be rub onions in his eyes to be polically correct?
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Post by jack22 on Oct 8, 2005 19:27:49 GMT -5
Well you're incorrect, crying is uncontrolable. It can be physically repressed but the emotion of wanting to cry cannot be.
But another question. What makes you think this has anything to do with politics?
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Post by rvdecwfan on Oct 8, 2005 19:28:54 GMT -5
Actually its kind of disrespectful to be this off topic in this thread so...im going to take the liberty of making an appropriate thread in the appropriate place. Boo ya.
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Post by jack22 on Oct 8, 2005 19:31:55 GMT -5
Talking about the human emotional functions I think is very on topic. I struggle to understand the logic which says it isn't.
My point being is that not being upset about someone's death is fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to be upset or telling anyone how they should feel. However what I was enquiring about was the rationalisation that if someone does not know the person who has passed then that alone is reason enough to not grieve their death. I was simply establishing why that might be the case.
All very ON topic given the subject.
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Post by caseygottheblues on Oct 8, 2005 21:53:36 GMT -5
Talking about the human emotional functions I think is very on topic. I struggle to understand the logic which says it isn't. My point being is that not being upset about someone's death is fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to be upset or telling anyone how they should feel. However what I was enquiring about was the rationalisation that if someone does not know the person who has passed then that alone is reason enough to not grieve their death. I was simply establishing why that might be the case. All very ON topic given the subject. Know what this is the second time I have had to tell people to stay on topic in this thread, stop getting in arugments about whether it was wrong not to cry, it is the person's emotional being not yours.... I'd hate to sound emo (I mean I would really hate to sound emo, EMO MUST STOP AND ELECTRIC BLUES NEEDS TO COME BACK) but just say whether or not you cried during it...Don't get angry at someone who didn't!
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Post by amsiraK on Oct 8, 2005 21:54:17 GMT -5
A general "Settle Down" and back to the discussion we go... (the dude didn't cry. Why is anyone on his ass about it?)
And to answer the question... yes. I cried during the tribute show. I cried when it started and all the guys were on the ramp for the 10 Bells. I cried every time they had someone talking about him. I cried at the end for JR's "rascal" speech. I cried every time one of the guys broke down in interview (oddly enough, I didn't cry when Debra did).
And I cried on Sunday when I watched the Raw Top Ten and they showed it.
Hell, I was close to crying just reading this thread. And as a rule, I don't cry.
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Post by caseygottheblues on Oct 8, 2005 22:07:07 GMT -5
A general "Settle Down" and back to the discussion we go... (the dude didn't cry. Why is anyone on his ass about it?) thanks for backing me up on that
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Post by jack22 on Oct 8, 2005 22:10:53 GMT -5
I wasn't "on his ass" about it.
I was enquiring as to the rationalization which he presented to represent his point of view which was to imply that the sole reason for him not expressing emotion at the death was due exclusively to the fact that he never knew the deceased. A fair question to ask.
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Post by caseygottheblues on Oct 8, 2005 22:30:25 GMT -5
I wasn't "on his ass" about it. I was enquiring as to the rationalization which he presented to represent his point of view which was to imply that the sole reason for him not expressing emotion at the death was due exclusively to the fact that he never knew the deceased. A fair question to ask. We stopped talking about it, you should too, just everybody answer the question....
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