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Post by itputsthelotion on Jun 23, 2010 17:52:01 GMT -5
No I don't think it is any better. Sure it has more drama but there's no real suspense in Revenge of the Sith because we already knew how it was going to end based on what we knew about the original trilogy. And of course there's bad acting, directing, writing and too much special effects.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 23, 2010 18:00:13 GMT -5
I'll also say that it's weird that while the lightsaber fights in the prequels are better choreographed and 'look' better; they pale in comparison to the originals even though in those the guys are mostly just hacking away; strangely enough.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jun 23, 2010 18:03:44 GMT -5
I'll also say that it's weird that while the lightsaber fights in the prequels are better choreographed and 'look' better; they pale in comparison to the originals even though in those the guys are mostly just hacking away; strangely enough. I think it's because there's just a ton more emotion in the original ones, and it's not "flash for the sake of flash". For instance, in Episode IV, the fight between Obi Wan and Vader lasts all of....what, three saber strikes, the drama of that moment is almost palpable. You don't get anything like that in any of the prequels. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 23, 2010 18:06:08 GMT -5
I'll also say that it's weird that while the lightsaber fights in the prequels are better choreographed and 'look' better; they pale in comparison to the originals even though in those the guys are mostly just hacking away; strangely enough. I think it's because there's just a ton more emotion in the original ones, and it's not "flash for the sake of flash". For instance, in Episode IV, the fight between Obi Wan and Vader lasts all of....what, three saber strikes, the drama of that moment is almost palpable. You don't get anything like that in any of the prequels. Probably true. Even the climactic Obi-Wan/Anakin battler in III feels like it just goes on too long. |
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jun 23, 2010 18:09:31 GMT -5
I actually liked it more than The Empire Strikes back which is one of the weakest of the films... The first 10 minutes with Luke getting caught by the big white yeti thingy is just needless padding, the training sequence and the Falcon getting to Bespin sequences were way too drawn out and kinda boring, the final battle scene wasn't enough to make the rest of a poor movie look strong. I did love the assault on Hoth though  3 had it's faults but it was more fun to watch than TESB, better paced and had a much more satisfying action scene at the end. Plus, Order 66 which is possibly my favourite scene in any Star Wars film. |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Jun 23, 2010 18:10:58 GMT -5
My only big problem in III was that they showed Vader.
When he first appears in IV, that should be the reveal. It has a 'holy crap' feeling no matter how many times you see it. They could have showed them working on Anakin from all different angles, showing how much effort went in, but DON'T BLOW ONE OF THE BEST BITS OF THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY! It sucks the life out of IV.
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Post by comahan on Jun 23, 2010 18:13:28 GMT -5
My allegiance is to the Republic, TO DEMOCRACY!
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Post by itputsthelotion on Jun 23, 2010 18:13:55 GMT -5
The Family Guy episode where they parody Empire Strikes Back actually made me appreciate the film even more. As a child I never liked it because it was too dark and too heavy for me. As I got older I hated all the films because of the prequels. And now I've come back to sort of liking Empire.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 23, 2010 18:15:09 GMT -5
It's cliche, but Empire really is the greatest of 'em.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 23, 2010 18:20:36 GMT -5
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
And this isn't an absolute statement because?
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Post by bob on Jun 23, 2010 18:31:59 GMT -5
clearly
Jake Loyd and Jar Jar aren't runing it like Episode 1
the lead actor isn't wooden and plot isn't extremely boring like in Episode 2
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Jun 23, 2010 18:32:11 GMT -5
Compared to the first two prequels it is a masterpiece. Yes it is flawed, but at least it had something that the previous films lacked: emotion. Personally I'd rank it the third best out of the six behind V and IV.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jun 23, 2010 18:43:17 GMT -5
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes" And this isn't an absolute statement because? Because by making this statement proves that Jedi's deal with absolutes too, making the statement itself false and not an absolute statement, meaning that Jedi's don't actually deal in absolutes, meaning that the Sith are the only ones that do. Seeeeeee? ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2010 20:47:38 GMT -5
I'll also say that it's weird that while the lightsaber fights in the prequels are better choreographed and 'look' better; they pale in comparison to the originals even though in those the guys are mostly just hacking away; strangely enough. The George Lucas explanation is that in the OT, Vader is now a robot that can't move around too well, that Obi-Wan is a broken down old man, and Luke is just some kid who hasn't been properly trained. I'm not saying I totally buy it, but it at least sort of makes sense. As for Episode III, if not for the infamous "Nooooooooooooo" it would be just as good as the OT in my opinion. But what do I know, I like Attack Of The Clones. |
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Post by Goldenbane on Jun 23, 2010 21:38:08 GMT -5
I liked Revenge of the Sith and think it's way better than Attack of the clones, and somewhat better than Phantom Menace (yeah, I worship Darth Maul too much for my own good).
However, it's no wheres near as good as the original trilogy. People are saying it's tied with Jedi...but I think that's totally unfair. The Ewoks are always blamed for turning that great movie into merely "good" and I think that's bs. The Ewoks were getting slaughtered by the empire until Chewie stole that Walker...then the tables turned and the Empire was lured into traps. Guys...I know the empire is all badass and technologically advanced, but it IS the Ewok's home planet for heaven's sakes! That has to count for something!
As far as duels go, NO lightsabre duel in ANY of the Star Wars movies have been as good as Luke vs. Vader in Return of the Jedi. The emotion is running high, Luke gets his win and even a bit of revenge for what happened in Empire, and ultimately Vader is redeemed and the empire beaten.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 23, 2010 21:40:55 GMT -5
I'll also say that it's weird that while the lightsaber fights in the prequels are better choreographed and 'look' better; they pale in comparison to the originals even though in those the guys are mostly just hacking away; strangely enough. The George Lucas explanation is that in the OT, Vader is now a robot that can't move around too well, that Obi-Wan is a broken down old man, and Luke is just some kid who hasn't been properly trained. I'm not saying I totally buy it, but it at least sort of makes sense. As for Episode III, if not for the infamous "Nooooooooooooo" it would be just as good as the OT in my opinion. But what do I know, I like Attack Of The Clones. That explains them, but even Luke was in the 'hack and slash' school of saber fighting.. Though I guess you could explain that as he was trained by older Obi. Still, as I said, what they lack in choreography, they make up in drama. The ROTJ climactic battle that was mentioned is the best example of that. At the end of that fight Luke is just bludgeoning away totally on emotion, which completely fits the story. |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jun 23, 2010 22:06:08 GMT -5
I'll also say that it's weird that while the lightsaber fights in the prequels are better choreographed and 'look' better; they pale in comparison to the originals even though in those the guys are mostly just hacking away; strangely enough. The George Lucas explanation is that in the OT, Vader is now a robot that can't move around too well, that Obi-Wan is a broken down old man, and Luke is just some kid who hasn't been properly trained. And I always call bull on that. the prequels have established that Obi-Wan is only in his late fifties by the time of Episode IV. Going on Christopher Lee's age, Dooku is into his eighties by the time of Episode 3. Yet the first thing he does in the film is frontflip off that balcony. |
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jun 23, 2010 22:37:56 GMT -5
anyone wanna discuss this?
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Post by spec on Jun 23, 2010 22:47:39 GMT -5
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes" And this isn't an absolute statement because? Because by making this statement proves that Jedi's deal with absolutes too, making the statement itself false and not an absolute statement, meaning that Jedi's don't actually deal in absolutes, meaning that the Sith are the only ones that do. Seeeeeee? ;D Oh yeah! Oh wait, i meant -  |
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Post by skykid on Jun 23, 2010 23:28:43 GMT -5
Even after the movie ended, I felt like I'd been duped. "......that was it??! that's how he turns into 'Badass' Darth Vader?" Cannot wait til Red Letter Media has their way with this one. That dude has the worst voice ever i couldn't get through three minutes of that review can you imagine if i actually sat through the whole damn thing? Not to mention that The Distressed Watcher already ripped off his review posted a series of videos at TGWTG.com |
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