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Post by Jason on Mar 17, 2010 21:57:00 GMT -5
I can't see why people are putting him as a lock for a future main eventer. He is a midcarder for life and I'm not a fan at all. He botches alot in the ring for one, his feud with Orton was dragged out and got stale after a few weeks and WWE continues to force-feed us him for practically no reason. His ring skills are nothing exciting, especially when you compare them to somebody like Evan Bourne. Who can do way more than him in the ring. Yoshi Tatsu is also better than him in the ring IMO. Infact, the only GOOD match I remember Kofi having was with MVP for the US title last year, and MVP is another guy who should have his push. His mic skills are nothing spectacular and he's honestly kind of boring now, since he dropped the whole colorful smiley Jamaican gimmick. He only wears boring black trunks now and doesn't really stand out like he used to.
I think MVP would have done more capable things in his position. It just sucks that he never got the chance to do anything big, MVP never fought for the world title in a singles match, ever. He never had a "big" feud with a main eventer like Randy Orton. He is like one heel turn away from winning the world title, but instead they have him play second fiddle to botch machines like Kofi Kingston. I'm tired of it. I just hope he wins the Money in the Bank and gets all cocky about it, forcing the fans to turn on him. With a gimmick like MVP's, the nickname "Mr. Money in the Bank" just makes the most sense.
Looking back now, I see a list of guys with great potential to main event. Mr Perfect, The British Bulldog, Owen Hart... I think in about 10 years, we'll be adding guys like MVP and Mr. Kennedy.
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Post by Greer on Mar 17, 2010 22:03:43 GMT -5
His ring skills are nothing exciting Can people stop acting like that means something and has merit to where you should be on the card?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2010 22:12:37 GMT -5
Kennedy was getting close and was likely going to receive a push that many people can only dream of. Then he failed a drug test after he lied about not doing drugs. So, I have no sympathy for him. He's getting a great push in TNA and might end up doing some important things there, so maybe it was for the best.
As for Kofi, who knows? History shows that one cannot predict who will get a push to the main event. Who thought Jeff Hardy would ever be champion? Who thought JBL would have one of the longer runs in recent history? Who predicted Sheamus's title victory coming out of nowhere or C.M. Punk's incredible WWE run? We just don't know.
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Post by barley96 on Mar 17, 2010 22:16:41 GMT -5
Kofi is a talented wrestler so chances are that he will be a midcarder for life until he goes to TNA and becomes a main eventer.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 17, 2010 22:19:28 GMT -5
Kofi is a talented wrestler so chances are that he will be a midcarder for life until he goes to TNA and becomes a main eventer. Int he past maybe,Hogan TNA?Not a chance
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Mar 17, 2010 22:24:15 GMT -5
I think at this point the boat on a Kofi main event push has sailed, crashed into an iceberg, sunk to the bottom of the ocean, and been ravaged to the point of ruin. They have no one to blame for it but themselves either. They should've given him a legimate win over Orton while he was still white hot. That could've been what he needed to put him over the top.
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Post by Jason on Mar 17, 2010 22:29:49 GMT -5
His ring skills are nothing exciting Can people stop acting like that means something and has merit to where you should be on the card? What I'm saying is, he has none of the qualities needed to be in the main event. He can't talk, he doesn't have a unique look and just doesn't have "it". If he had the ring skills, he MIGHT have gotten a chance, like Chris Benoit for instance.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Mar 17, 2010 22:35:07 GMT -5
If this were the beginning of January, I'd disagree with you. However, it seems as if the WWE has dropped the ball on Kofi's push, which is sad considering he was over with the crowd. Hopefully they can get him back onto the main event track, but I'm not holding out for it.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 17, 2010 22:38:53 GMT -5
And he's apparently incapable of EVER improving? The company will never shift gears? The current crop of aging main eventers will never retire? I sometimes wish these boards were around in the mid 1990's just to see how many people would've declared Rocky Maivia, The Ringmaster and Hunter Hearst Helmsley as "mid-carders for life".
Rough estimate: Lots of people. Lots.
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Mar 17, 2010 22:41:58 GMT -5
I'm gonna translate here:
"This guy is popular. I don't like him, so I'm gonna make a thread to start fights."
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Mar 17, 2010 22:46:42 GMT -5
The obvious goal of Kofi's recent push was to make him the new Jeff Hardy; a smaller, young, underdog babyface who does crazy spots and is just bordering on the main event scene but never quite makes it to the top, but elicits huge amounts of sympathy when he gets beat up and loses (which happens a lot) while coming ever so close to achieving his dream.
It's the same character Foley played when he hit it big as well, and a variation on what they tried with Mysterio during the Eddie Guerrero Memorial Push. It's pretty much the best that WWE is willing to do for guys without the conventional main eventer physique.
Kofi has not been "buried" or otherwise booked poorly, unless you consider that pushing him this soon was a mistake in the first place (which it probably was). Kofi is not nor was he ever going to get a Goldberg winning streak; if he wants to make it as a big star, he's going to have to be able to keep his heat even while getting beat up and losing. He hasn't been able to, AT ALL.
He lost two extremely competitive matches to Randy Orton by the skin of his teeth, and that was enough to make the crowds give up on him. Foley wouldn't have gotten killed by that, nor would Hardy (nor, to look at it from the heel side, did Miz lose his heat after being booked much, much worse against Cena).
Kofi got a big pop initially when he began feuding with Orton because it was a fresh feud and people wanted to root for the underdog... but he doesn't connect on the level where people just keep WANTING him to win and make it to the next level, even after he gets beat down. They're happy to see him stay in the midcard, and that's likely where he's going to stay.
And that's even without getting into stuff like the botched triple threat finish or his choking up on promos.
Kofi's rise towards stardom was artificially constructed by WWE through an excessive push and was pleasantly received, but failed to catch on. That's a pity, but for the IWC to build it up as though Kofi was this rising young star who got over on his own and was then buried by the malevolent bookers is ridiculous.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Mar 17, 2010 22:49:00 GMT -5
And he's apparently incapable of EVER improving? The company will never shift gears? The current crop of aging main eventers will never retire? I sometimes wish these boards were around in the mid 1990's just to see how many people would've declared Rocky Maivia, The Ringmaster and Hunter Hearst Helmsley as "mid-carders for life". Rough estimate: Lots of people. Lots. Well personally I'm not saying that Kofi's main event aspirations are COMPLETELY doomed. Just at the moment it's not looking too good. And judging from how they've been booking him as of late, it's going to take a heck of a lot of rehab in order for him to even start to approach the levels he was nearing previously. By then he may have already been booked for a permanent stay in midcard hell, and it will be too late. And in that same regard whose to say that Kofi won't suffer some tragic career ending injury himself? The thing about that kind of logic is that it goes both ways.
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Post by mrjl on Mar 17, 2010 22:55:20 GMT -5
Can people stop acting like that means something and has merit to where you should be on the card? What I'm saying is, he has none of the qualities needed to be in the main event. He can't talk, he doesn't have a unique look and just doesn't have "it". If he had the ring skills, he MIGHT have gotten a chance, like Chris Benoit for instance. he can talk, he does have ring skills and he does have a unique look. Damn it's fun passing off individual opinions as fact.
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Post by mrjl on Mar 17, 2010 22:57:12 GMT -5
I think at this point the boat on a Kofi main event push has sailed, crashed into an iceberg, sunk to the bottom of the ocean, and been ravaged to the point of ruin. They have no one to blame for it but themselves either. They should've given him a legimate win over Orton while he was still white hot. That could've been what he needed to put him over the top. Bull. This was IC Champ Shawn Michaels facing Bret Hart for the World Title in 1993, Jeff Hardy losing to the Undertaker in a ladder match, John Cena challenging Brock Lesnar for the title after Lesnar busted his knee.
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Post by sweatpants on Mar 17, 2010 23:02:10 GMT -5
Looking back now, I see a list of guys with great potential to main event. Mr Perfect, The British Bulldog, Owen Hart... I think in about 10 years, we'll be adding guys like MVP and Mr. Kennedy. AAAAHAHAHAHA!!! Where do you come up with this stuff? It's hilarious!
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Post by maximilian on Mar 17, 2010 23:03:29 GMT -5
Agreed on all counts (edit: except the part about MVP and Kennedy, both of whom suck as well). Kofi is pretty terrible, and I'm glad I won't have to watch him at Wrestlemania.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Mar 17, 2010 23:09:31 GMT -5
I think at this point the boat on a Kofi main event push has sailed, crashed into an iceberg, sunk to the bottom of the ocean, and been ravaged to the point of ruin. They have no one to blame for it but themselves either. They should've given him a legimate win over Orton while he was still white hot. That could've been what he needed to put him over the top. Bull. This was IC Champ Shawn Michaels facing Bret Hart for the World Title in 1993, Jeff Hardy losing to the Undertaker in a ladder match, John Cena challenging Brock Lesnar for the title after Lesnar busted his knee. But this was at a time when the WWE needed to create some new stars. Before they settled on Sheamus. Kofi had TONS of momentum on his side. It was absolutely moronic that they botched things. He was thwarting Orton at every pass. He even pinned not only him, but also Punk single handedly at the last Survivor Series. He was basically booked as Orton's weakness. He needed to beat him clean at least once one on one. It didn't even have to be the first time, though that would've been preferable. It certainly didn't help matters that they completely watered the match down beforehand by having two nothing matches take place beforehand on television for free. They failed to strike when the iron was hot and now it's been rendered ice cold once more. They gave Sheamus a chance and it seems to have paid off. They should've given Kofi one as well or really anyone that they want to reach main event status. And I don't recall Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy, or John Cena being booked to be pretty much squashed in three minutes or so after any of those matches. In fact Kofi hasn't gotten an important win in quite awhile now that I think about it.
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Post by Jason on Mar 17, 2010 23:31:37 GMT -5
Looking back now, I see a list of guys with great potential to main event. Mr Perfect, The British Bulldog, Owen Hart... I think in about 10 years, we'll be adding guys like MVP and Mr. Kennedy. AAAAHAHAHAHA!!! Where do you come up with this stuff? It's hilarious! So you don't think Mr. Kennedy and MVP were gonna hit the main event a few years back?
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Post by sweatpants on Mar 17, 2010 23:33:34 GMT -5
AAAAHAHAHAHA!!! Where do you come up with this stuff? It's hilarious! So you don't think Mr. Kennedy and MVP were gonna hit the main event a few years back? Kennedy: Yeah, when he had Money in the Bank, but that was very shortlived. MVP: Nope.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2010 23:35:38 GMT -5
Kofi is a talented wrestler so chances are that he will be a midcarder for life until he goes to TNA and becomes a main eventer. Int he past maybe,Hogan TNA?Not a chance He'll be Global Champion in 2032
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