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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 28, 2010 0:14:20 GMT -5
So, he's mad at a heel for being annoyingly heelish?
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Feb 28, 2010 0:17:58 GMT -5
I think he's implying it's X-Pac heat rather than good heel heat.
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Post by BxB on Feb 28, 2010 0:23:46 GMT -5
So, he's mad at a heel for being annoyingly heelish? No, he's mad that a heel is ruining any heat the angle(no pun intended) is generating.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 28, 2010 0:28:24 GMT -5
I do have to agree that the segment with Anderson and Christy was pretty damn dull. I ended up leaving the room for something, came back to find it was still going on, watched a few seconds, and left again.
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Post by Celgress on Feb 28, 2010 0:33:05 GMT -5
Anderson is one of the best mainstream promo men in the business today, IMO. If Anderson's mic work is putting Storm to sleep. Storm had better stop taking those heavy tranquilizers. Seriously my friends and I are very critical of mainstram pro wrestling. Matter of fact only segaments of TNA we have enjoyed recently have been those involving Pope, Wolfe, Anderson & at times Flair/AJ. I honestly think Lance just likes hearing himself whine. This quote from Iron Sheik sums up my feelings towards Mr. Storm: "I don't respect you!"
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Post by American Dragon on Feb 28, 2010 0:55:55 GMT -5
I'm not gonna bother looking through this thread. Every time Storm seems to post his honest opinion on the TNA product, most of the stuff he criticizes needs criticism. I sit back and laugh at the TNA fanboys who try to argue against his points, or call him a "money drawing extraordinaire"
Anger.
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Post by BxB on Feb 28, 2010 1:00:50 GMT -5
Anderson is one of the best mainstream promo men in the business today, IMO. If Anderson's mic work is putting Storm to sleep. Storm had better stop taking those heavy tranquilizers. Seriously my friends and I are very critical of mainstram pro wrestling. Matter of fact only segaments of TNA we have enjoyed recently have been those involving Pope, Wolfe, Anderson & at times Flair/AJ. I honestly think Lance just likes hearing himself whine. This quote from Iron Sheik sums up my feelings towards Mr. Storm: "I don't respect you!" He never said he put him to sleep. Storm said he was a good talker, but his promo was all over the place and it took away from the storyline. I agree with Storm, Anderson needs to work on that.
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Post by Celgress on Feb 28, 2010 1:03:35 GMT -5
I'm not gonna bother looking through this thread. Every time Storm seems to post his honest opinion on the TNA product, most of the stuff he criticizes needs criticism. I sit back and laugh at the TNA fanboys who try to argue against his points, or call him a "money drawing extraordinaire" Anger. C'mon there are many problems in TNA. No one is denying that. Like the Magical Ring, The Nasty Boys getting TV time, The oWo/Band storyline, The depushing of the KO & X-Divisions, the list goes on & on. Frankly however Mr. Anderson's promo skills are not one of them. Anderson's ring work maybe, promos not at all. I respect anyone's complaints. When they are actually valid.
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Feb 28, 2010 1:05:41 GMT -5
IMO If Anderson is one of the best promo men in the business, then Randy Orton is a certified GOD. Anderson's character is one dimensonal, it's a dimenson that people happen to like yes, but it's still no less one dimensional. And just because Lance didn't draw doesn't make his thoughts any less valid. When a heel plays heelish, that's fine, when a heel plays so cool that it kills an angle, that's a problem.
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Post by Celgress on Feb 28, 2010 1:08:53 GMT -5
Anderson is one of the best mainstream promo men in the business today, IMO. If Anderson's mic work is putting Storm to sleep. Storm had better stop taking those heavy tranquilizers. Seriously my friends and I are very critical of mainstram pro wrestling. Matter of fact only segaments of TNA we have enjoyed recently have been those involving Pope, Wolfe, Anderson & at times Flair/AJ. I honestly think Lance just likes hearing himself whine. This quote from Iron Sheik sums up my feelings towards Mr. Storm: "I don't respect you!" He never said he put him to sleep. Storm said he was a good talker, but his promo was all over the place and it took away from the storyline. I agree with Storm, Anderson needs to work on that. I actually thought the promo was good, not great but good. Maybe Anderson was having a slightly off night, who knows? Until it gets worse, or becomes a pattern, I'm not worried unlike Storm. Once again sometimes I think Storm just enjoys finding things "wrong", no matter how minor, to whine about.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Feb 28, 2010 1:45:13 GMT -5
Many times I agree with Lance, and other times I sort of agree with him.
This is an example where I 100% disagree with him. Mr Anderson's promos are one of the things that I love the most about the current TNA.
I thought his promo with Christy was really funny. There were some subtle things in it that I really liked. One was how he pushed Christy's microphone out of his face, only to reach up for his own microphone. And then Christy had a priceless reaction where she looked up to the ceiling as if to wonder why there was a hanging mic in the locker room, and why hanging mics seem to follow Anderson everywhere he goes. I think next week they should show Anderson in the men's room, and have his mic drop into his hand.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 28, 2010 1:51:51 GMT -5
When Storm complains about some of the idiotic things WWE does, no one bitch and moans. As soon as he says something about TNA, it's a whole other story. So who is qualified to critique TNA? If you go by the guidelines set, only Piper, Hogan, Flair, Sammartino, Bockwinkel, Vince McMahon, The Rock, Stone Cold, Mil Mascaras, Kobashi, Great Muta, and John Cena can do it.
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Post by rrm15 on Feb 28, 2010 1:57:51 GMT -5
I used to get really annoyed by Lances blog posts like this, but after I stopped and thought about it, I realized all hes doing is stating his opinion, like we're all doing right now. Also, hes doing it because he has an audience who clearly respect his opinion and always ask for his views on various things.
I think the problem comes from people who toss around Storms word as gospel because "OMG LANCE STORM said it and he has teh workratez, so hes right!" People get resentful of that because they in turn don't think highly of Lance and thus his opinion isn't valid.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Feb 28, 2010 2:11:29 GMT -5
If you go by the guidelines set, only Piper, Hogan, Flair, Sammartino, Bockwinkel, Vince McMahon, The Rock, Stone Cold, Mil Mascaras, Kobashi, Great Muta, and John Cena can do it. Problem is, for each of those guys, there would be people who would still have a problem. Piper - "hung around too long" or "was horrible in the ring and overrated on the microphone" Hogan - it's the internet. "He can't wrestle" is only the start, closely followed by "He held down people who were a threat to him" Flair - plenty of people suddenly hate him. Plus he's horribly mismanaged his money and gotten married several times, so obviously he doesn't know the wrestling business. He also "had the same match every night" and "hung around too long" Sammartino - "He's old and bitter" Bockwinkel - Many probably don't really know who he is. Vince McMahon - is the devil. He screwed Bret. He's old and out of touch. The Rock - "turned his back on wrestling" "couldn't wrestle" Stone Cold - "he beat his wife!" "Held down people he didn't want to work with, etc." Mascaras - "Who?" or "Foley said he sucked in his book" Kobashi - "Who?," "The business is different in the US, he doesn't know it," or "Outside of Japan and a bunch of smarks, who even knows who this guy is?" Muta - much the same as above, except he's a little better known here. Cena - "can't wrestle," "overrated on the mic," "has been shoved down everyone's throat," or "Hasn't been around long enough to know anything." There are certainly exceptions, but by and large, there is no pleasing the "IWC."
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Post by KingPopper on Feb 28, 2010 2:21:57 GMT -5
Kinda funny Anderson's promo was about DVR's, I'm sure some people used it.
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Post by jobsquad on Feb 28, 2010 2:26:26 GMT -5
If you go by the guidelines set, only Piper, Hogan, Flair, Sammartino, Bockwinkel, Vince McMahon, The Rock, Stone Cold, Mil Mascaras, Kobashi, Great Muta, and John Cena can do it. Problem is, for each of those guys, there would be people who would still have a problem. Piper - "hung around too long" or "was horrible in the ring and overrated on the microphone" Hogan - it's the internet. "He can't wrestle" is only the start, closely followed by "He held down people who were a threat to him" Flair - plenty of people suddenly hate him. Plus he's horribly mismanaged his money and gotten married several times, so obviously he doesn't know the wrestling business. He also "had the same match every night" and "hung around too long" Sammartino - "He's old and bitter" Bockwinkel - Many probably don't really know who he is. Vince McMahon - is the devil. He screwed Bret. He's old and out of touch. The Rock - "turned his back on wrestling" "couldn't wrestle" Stone Cold - "he beat his wife!" "Held down people he didn't want to work with, etc." Mascaras - "Who?" or "Foley said he sucked in his book" Kobashi - "Who?," "The business is different in the US, he doesn't know it," or "Outside of Japan and a bunch of smarks, who even knows who this guy is?" Muta - much the same as above, except he's a little better known here. Cena - "can't wrestle," "overrated on the mic," "has been shoved down everyone's throat," or "Hasn't been around long enough to know anything." There are certainly exceptions, but by and large, there is no pleasing the "IWC." Exactly. This I can see because he is talking about someone on the mic, and that wasn't exactly his strong suit for the marks. He said what he needed to say, but his charisma did not match his in ring talent. In the end, the only way to criticize a wrestler's performance is to literally know why he does everything. Of course that means you have to somehow learn from a wrestler himself, and most of those don't tell you things for free.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 28, 2010 2:29:07 GMT -5
He puts an opinion out, it has a right to be criticized, I don't care if he was a wrestler and wrestled for 50 years, and I live Lance Storm. Him being in the ring doesn't make him an expert on how to make a show, just like because Mike Golic played football he's not an expert on building a football team. He offers a different perspective, and Storm, unlike alot of people, will actually have well thought out ideas instead of just throwing out hyperbole.
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Post by jobsquad on Feb 28, 2010 2:51:43 GMT -5
He puts an opinion out, it has a right to be criticized, I don't care if he was a wrestler and wrestled for 50 years, and I live Lance Storm. Him being in the ring doesn't make him an expert on how to make a show, just like because Mike Golic played football he's not an expert on building a football team. He offers a different perspective, and Storm, unlike alot of people, will actually have well thought out ideas instead of just throwing out hyperbole. Yeah, but I'm sure Golic would know more about putting together a team than your average fan. No one is saying not to criticize him, but people should do it respectfully and concede that yes, there is bound to be some merit in it.
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Post by BxB on Feb 28, 2010 3:39:00 GMT -5
He puts an opinion out, it has a right to be criticized, I don't care if he was a wrestler and wrestled for 50 years, and I live Lance Storm. Him being in the ring doesn't make him an expert on how to make a show, just like because Mike Golic played football he's not an expert on building a football team. He offers a different perspective, and Storm, unlike alot of people, will actually have well thought out ideas instead of just throwing out hyperbole. Yeah, but I'm sure Golic would know more about putting together a team than your average fan. No one is saying not to criticize him, but people should do it respectfully and concede that yes, there is bound to be some merit in it. Yeah, the issue here isn't that Storm shouldn't be criticized for his opinions. It's just that people shouldn't dismiss him by calling him a whiner, among other things. Because he clearly explains his opinions, and not just puts down people for the heck of it.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 28, 2010 4:01:15 GMT -5
If you're gonna criticize Storm for something, trying actually picking something he said and trying to make an intelligent counter argument for it. His drawing power is hardly something valid to critic considering his still probably made more money than the guy sitting at home on a wrestling forum in his underoos.
Your flamebait fails, OP.
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