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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jun 12, 2010 12:53:21 GMT -5
I will laugh my ass off if on the RAW thread, it only gets 2 pages. I'll laugh when the thread gets the usual amount.
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Post by draus on Jun 12, 2010 12:59:21 GMT -5
Nothing will ever, ever cause me to stop watching WWE. Having said that, releasing Danielson all because some corporate suit got their panties in a bunch is total bush league. Whoever this idiot was, be it some big wig from Mattel or WWE Corporate, as someone on the first page said, should answer this: why is it that Triple H can smash guys in the face with a sledgehammer and pedigree midgets whose character is basically supposed to be a kid, yet something as simple as choking someone with a neck tie causes an integral guy in the hottest angle in recent memory to be fired?
I'm just so sick of this new PG-era WWE and their whole catering to families and kids. Even when I was a kid I was sick of all these people trying to protect me, telling me I couldn't watch violent TV shows or play violent videogames like Mortal Kombat because I may become influenced. Hell, kids these days are playing games like Call of Duty and blasting people in the face with assault rifles. It's just truly ridiculous the double standard that exists. Personally I bet all the little kids in the audience can't wait until next week. I know this because I once was a little boy, 10 years old, watching my hero Hulk Hogan stab me in the back. I was upset as all hell, but I kept on tuning in week after week to find out what was going on. I was an impressionable teenager in middle school and early high school during the Attitude Era and I just ended up fine. It just boggles my mind the idiocy this company maintains sometimes.
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Post by Galluchadore on Jun 12, 2010 13:32:51 GMT -5
I haven't watched the WWE since Fall 2006... around the time Kurt Angle left and when the WWE decided to shove Cena down my throat instead of turning him heel. I still "follow" what happens from news sites and occasionally will put things on just for a minute or two . I think the combination of a bad overal product, the targeting of kids, the rise of MMA and UFC, my exposure and developed interest in Japanese wrestling pretty much turned me away from WWE (probably forever)
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Post by dlg3000 on Jun 12, 2010 13:47:22 GMT -5
I for one will have to see something worse than Katie Vick, Little People's court, and the Divas Search in order for me to be done with the WWE. I may find some RAW episodes boring, but I still enjoy Smackdown.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 12, 2010 14:23:00 GMT -5
My last straw happened five and a half years ago. Trips lost the title to Benoit and Edge in a triple threat, then won it back a week or two later at New Year's Resolutions.
Haven't watched ever since.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 12, 2010 14:27:54 GMT -5
I will laugh my ass off if on the RAW thread, it only gets 2 pages. I'll laugh when the thread gets the usual amount. With same folks who vowed to never watch again.
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Post by draus on Jun 12, 2010 14:28:36 GMT -5
No offense, but I'm just curious as to how some of you guys just stopped watching so long ago yet frequently post on a wrestling message board? I mean if I were to pack up and leave I don't think I'd find it entertaining to keep talking about the product, but that's just me. Again, not meaning to start anything, I'm just wondering how some of you guys claim to not watch this stuff anymore yet you're still on here.
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Post by Quote the Tozz, Nevermore. on Jun 12, 2010 15:28:43 GMT -5
Work or shoot, to say I'm a little bit upset about the Daniel Bryan Danielson situation is a bit of an understatement. I feel his firing - real or not - was really out of the blue, and it seemed to be over a very minor incident. If it is legit then WWE is "Stupid! Stupid!"
BUT, is it the last straw for me? No, but I'm annoyed about it >=(
I, along with many of you guys here was looking forward to this whole Nvasion angle, but now my hopes have been madly dashed. I think there's only one way WWE could make me feel better about this, and that is that it is indeed a work firing, and he'll come back as Bryan Danielson, and kick people's f'n heads in.
I actually won't be surprised if it is the last straw many ROH fans and IWC Danielson lovers stop watching for good :\
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Post by Nexus' Shogun on Jun 12, 2010 15:28:44 GMT -5
i have been a wwe/f fan since i was 4 years old, and even though i'm pissed about the whole thing w/bryan, i will still watch raw/smackdown. i just can't help it
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Post by psychokiller on Jun 12, 2010 15:38:22 GMT -5
This won't stop me from watching. I'll still watch Raw and NXT, but these days I rarely watch Smackdown anyways since hardly anyone on their appeals to me except for Taker when he's actually on, SES, Cody Rhodes, Lay-Cool & The Big Show. I do like Jack Swagger, but I can't stand his serious cliched champ persona now.
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Post by Hurbster on Jun 12, 2010 15:45:14 GMT -5
No offense, but I'm just curious as to how some of you guys just stopped watching so long ago yet frequently post on a wrestling message board? I mean if I were to pack up and leave I don't think I'd find it entertaining to keep talking about the product, but that's just me. Again, not meaning to start anything, I'm just wondering how some of you guys claim to not watch this stuff anymore yet you're still on here. Most sensible thing said in this thread so far.
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Post by golding on Jun 12, 2010 15:46:53 GMT -5
No offense, but I'm just curious as to how some of you guys just stopped watching so long ago yet frequently post on a wrestling message board? I mean if I were to pack up and leave I don't think I'd find it entertaining to keep talking about the product, but that's just me. Again, not meaning to start anything, I'm just wondering how some of you guys claim to not watch this stuff anymore yet you're still on here. WWE isn't the only show in town.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jun 12, 2010 15:55:21 GMT -5
I'll still watch. Wrestlers get released from WWE all the time and in reality, Danielson is no more special than them.
Why not boycott when anyone else got fired (Funaki, Mike Knox, Paul Burchill, etc.). They did nothing wrong. But since Danielson is such an internet darling its a big deal.
I'm a huge Raven mark, but I still watched after he was released. It happens, people lose their job all the time.
If it's real, he'll find work (WWE or elsewhere). Raven got released and turned the negative into a positive by getting a great feud in TNA (Raven's Destiny). Matt Hardy was released and came back to WWE (Edge/Lita) and again, a positive. Good and entertaining wrestlers will come back to WWE or elsewhere and make a good living. Danielson can probably return (assuming this is real) to the WWE in a fairly short time if he violated a company rule. If it's a work.....jokes on you.
Boycotting because of this is silly, petty and downright dumb in my opinion. (of course half the people "boycotting" will be back complaining about something else in a week anyway).
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Post by Long Live the Stream on Jun 12, 2010 15:59:10 GMT -5
If it's a work: Thank you, WWE for eliciting this much emotion from me.
If it's legit: I've NEVER said this. EVER. I've watched WWE since I was 3 and I've never uttered these words. If Bryan Danielson is truly gone...I'm done. Since HBK retired, AmDrag and Punk were the only things keeping me hooked. With all due respect to Punk, he's not enough. I guess it's just ROH and PWG for me...
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Post by Piccolo on Jun 12, 2010 16:01:54 GMT -5
Hm. It's hard to say. I just cut all ties with my other major TV show last month, so I was excited that WWE was finally picking up and getting good again. I don't know if this is a big enough deal for me to be done for good.
The thing is, it's hard to really know until you keep watching a few times and slowly start to realize you'd rather be doing something else. It doesn't happen overnight. I was getting really bored with WWE for a while, which I kind of expected to happen after my favorite guy left. This was getting me back in, but now it's gotten derailed, so am I going to stick around and see what the rest of the guys can do with it, or am I just gonna move on and come back to wrestling after a few years like I usually do? I dunno yet. I still love Punk, Show and Miz. Are they enough to carry the whole company for me when the one angle I was really into has lost so much? Gosh, I don't think so. So yeah, I don't know. It's hard to say. I'm sure WWE won't miss me one way or the other, whether I find something to keep me interested or whether I take another hiatus.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jun 12, 2010 16:03:24 GMT -5
No need for a last straw for me as I haven't watched regularly since mid 2005, just after the first One Night Stand. For the last 5 years I have only tuned in when something's caught my eye. I became a semi-regular watcher again when ECW first relaunched up until December 06, then again during Regal's KOTR. Bret & NXT had been closer to drawing me back than annything but this all now being dead in the water just puts me back to where I've normally been- very very occasional watcher who follows the results and maybe watches 1 or 2 PPVs a year. I doubt anything will drive me away permanently (I don't watch enough to swear off forever annyway), but I also doubt anything will draw me back to the 2003-04 period of watching both shows & PPVs regularly.
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Post by Greer on Jun 12, 2010 16:14:53 GMT -5
Me not watching won't change their product or cost them any money.
I'm not a big Danielson fan as I never watched ROH. I knew of his legacy there and knew he was probably the best in the world after watching his matches on youtube.
His firing, while unjust, if it is true and if the reason for it is true, will not stop me from watching WWE programming. The product is mediocre right now but it gives me something to watch, and it's ALWAYS there. Not many shows can give you that option of always being there no matter what. That's what I do love about the WWE, is that it's always going to be there no matter how many breaks I take from watching.
The firing sucks because while I'm not a Danielson fanatic, I do think he is a tremendous wrestler and was unjustly released.
Assuming this is all legit of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 16:20:59 GMT -5
My last straw was in late-2002 (Katie Vick + a legit burnout). I took a LONG break and never came back to WWE, although I periodically watched YouTube clips over the last few years if I heard something big happened. I only came back to wrestling when Hogan signed on with TNA, and I'm barely holding interest in TNA now. If Hogan stayed retired, I would have too.
I am actually surprised people over 20 watch the WWE, to be honest. MMA is huge now and wrestling is being targeted to kids. What is the incentive to watch? It would be like a 20 year old complaining that Hannah Montana storylines are not intriguing enough. Simply put, the WWE is not marketing to you anymore (i.e. the late-teen or over crowd). That is why the product likely sucks in your eyes.
In 1993, when Hogan, Warrior, and co. left/were phased out, I stopped watching the WWF. I only came back to wrestling when Hall and Nash "invaded" WCW and Hogan turned heel. Since I was in college at the time, the more adult themed/realistic WCW appealed to me more. I never sat through the WWF's "rebuilding" days just because I started watching in 1986. If I don't find something entertaining, I stop watching. I wasn't going to watch Doink and Dink dance around in the hopes that the storylines would improve.
At some point all of you are going to out grow wrestling. It happened to me and my friends. I still love watching old clips from when I was growing up, but the new stuff bores me. I think some of you are just teetering on that point right now.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jun 12, 2010 16:39:07 GMT -5
I'll throw my two cents in, for what it's worth. And, if this is a work, then this really all goes out the window.
I have been watching WWF, now the WWE for 22 years. I first got into it right around Wrestlemania 4, and have been watching pro wrestling ever since. I am not a WWE loyalist. I did watch more WCW during the Monday Night Wars, because I felt that for a large chunk of that, it was a better product. Plus many of the WWF magic was gone, from the wrestlers, to the presentation, and the announcing. However, with that being said, I did watch plenty of Monday Night Raw, and did become a fan again around 1999. Often times I would be turned off by the raunch and 16 year old humor, but the characters were compelling enough that I watched.
Now, let's go to today. You have a WWE product that they say is PG, for the kids. Well, I was a kid in the late 80s to mid 90s, and I still was able to see a product that looked like people cared about what they were putting on. It still seemed like the WWF wanted you to watch. And then, when they began to take things for granted, when Vince McMahon's vision of every wrestler having a day job occurred, then a large group of them left. This reminds me of today, except there isn't another group of there that can challenge them effectively. There isn't another group that can make them take notice of their hubris.
Am I a Bryan Danielson mark. No. Truthfully I had never even seen a full match of his until NXT. However, if this is not a work, I will be done with the WWE. Right now I only DVR it, but if the McMahons are so worried about the political career of Linda, or getting a new market for children, that they are not only willing to PG the product, but to neuter any type of creativity and imagination so they can essentially present a fast food version of pro wrestling, then I really am not going to miss anything. This is why I think if this is true, alot of people(maybe not a ton, but a decent amount) will finally begin to stay away from the WWE. It's like the Simpsons episode Kamp Krusty, when Bart spends all summer dealing with horrid conditions and crap just for the hope of seeing his hero. Finally he finds out Krusty is coming, only to see that it isn't him, but a fake. That's what set him off. Well for us, we sit through alot of crap hoping for the next hot angle. Last Monday we actually got our hope, and interesting angle that didn't seem sanitized and processed by the WWE machine. Now it seems like this hope will end up false, and that's why I think this is my last straw.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jun 12, 2010 16:42:08 GMT -5
I still think he just turned down sex with Batista. "BUT I"M THE MAAAAN, AHHHHHH"
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