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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2010 7:44:29 GMT -5
As said, I personally think retconning Cena into being the mastermind wouldn't be as hard as people make it sound.
It would be an asspull, certainly, but I think it could potentially work if they explained it as Cena and Young being willing to take one for the team in the name of drawing and subsequently snuffing out those who would and could stand against Nexus. This only works, though, if Nexus helps him beat Sheamus at Money in the Bank - if they don't, then the entire concept falls apart.
A Cena heel turn would only work, I think, if we slowly get a rising body count throughout the PPV and it culminates in the group swarming the cage and them and Cena beating the hell out of Sheamus to end the show, then a promo the very next night explaining their actions.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 15, 2010 10:27:29 GMT -5
Cena is behind it?
...So... Rick Steiner attacked himself?
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Post by hossfan on Jul 15, 2010 10:37:55 GMT -5
If Cena turns heel it would make a lot more sense to wait until after the Nexus/Mystery GM storyline is done. Have Orton and Cena team up to vanquish the bad guys, with Cena slowly getting jealous and paranoid as Orton's star starts to eclipse his own (another reason it would be a good idea to have the mastermind be Triple H, since it would be a callback to their feud) until he finally snaps and turns on Randy and the fans. Of course, if things were booked like that it would leave one main event face on the Raw roster to contend with four or five heels.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jul 15, 2010 11:37:20 GMT -5
I thought about a Cena heel turn, especially coupled with Nexus. Ultimately, it won't work here, and there are a few reasons why:
1) I'm still leaning against any established WWE star being exposed as the leader. While it could elevate the feud, it would also take attention away from the Nexus rookies and Barrett in particular, who has been doing a good job of building heat and establishing himself as a star. Cena overtaking him would deflect attention away from the current youth movement, which I would not want to happen.
2) As long as WWE is PG, Cena has to be a face. He made a great heel back in the day, but he really has to have an edge to him. A comedic or neutered heel Cena would not have the same effect. His heel turn would have to be in the context of how he cleaned his act up (PG'ed himself) because fans were cheering him and he tried to be a role model, but they turned on him just as fast because of that. When WWE decides they will up their content or relax the PG rules, then they can try an edgy Cena heel turn. Not before.
3) Nexus have targeted him for so long, by this point it won't make sense. Remember, the Outsiders did not beat on Hogan for the better part of a month before he joined with them. That's why his heel turn and the nWo formation worked so well. Yes, they did put Bischoff through a table, but that was only once, and his turn was more along the lines of "I couldn't beat 'em so I might as well join 'em" rather than being the mastermind all along. If Cena were to join now, it would be a shocking swerve, but it also wouldn't make sense within the context of the storyline.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jul 15, 2010 11:50:37 GMT -5
Personally I'd like to see it be HHH, but only if the angle they go in is that Trips is doing it to create a "new" WWE and reveal that Nexus was also behind the attack of the Undertaker as a way of shedding the rembrants of "old" WWE.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 15, 2010 12:23:40 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, he could say he beat up Young for daring to say that people called him the "black John Cena". But I have no clue how you can explain them beating him up to begin with.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 15, 2010 12:25:46 GMT -5
HHH could easily do it, breaking from being Jokey McJokerson now that DX is dead.
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Post by kingkurteous on Jul 15, 2010 12:37:56 GMT -5
You are all out of your minds if you the the WWE will turn Cena anytime soon. The guy's T-shirts alone pay for the venue at every show. He is a marketing machine to children. Turning him heel would make some of the smart marks ecstatic, but CMON they are not that stupid.
Re-visit that theory in 3 or 4 years
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jul 15, 2010 12:57:30 GMT -5
I meant to mention that in the PG argument of my post, but you're right.
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Post by kingoftheiwc on Jul 15, 2010 13:53:43 GMT -5
To me Cena turns there goes the money and although I want him to turn heel eventually its not 1998. So the logical guy has to be Cole or Jericho with Cole as the boss of RAW and Jericho as leader of the Nexus.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 15, 2010 13:54:32 GMT -5
Barrett has gone out of his way the last couple weeks to mention a 'bigger picture'.. so they're doing something along those lines.
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Post by cobrafan on Jul 15, 2010 14:04:47 GMT -5
Both ideas are horrible. If it's Cena...then it just makes ZERO sense. If it's HHH...then it will just be all about him which leads to a member of Nexus eventually breaking away and taking on HHH. It will be Evolution all over again.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 15, 2010 14:40:39 GMT -5
wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1279144468Personally, I think it weakens the Nexus group as a whole if they need somebody "behind the scenes," so to speak, as if the 7 of them, united, can't accomplish anything without a major established WWE superstar. Also, Cena being behind them doesn't make a damn bit of sense, and I'm still sick to death of heel HHH. Thoughts? disagree. in fact, i would go on a massive markout spree, esp. if trips is also the mystery gm, which i feel is highly likely.
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on Jul 15, 2010 14:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by kaleb on Jul 15, 2010 15:00:23 GMT -5
Barrett has gone out of his way the last couple weeks to mention a 'bigger picture'.. so they're doing something along those lines. Im sure there will be a bigger picture eventually, but right now I think Barrett is just saying that to get viewers to keep on tuning in, anyway put me down for in the group that hopes its Cena.
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Post by Shameful_Lobsterhead on Jul 15, 2010 15:11:53 GMT -5
I remember hearing Triple H saying when he went back to face I believe in 06? that he wanted to stay face till he retires; so with Triple H that doesn't make any sense.
Neither with Cena but the reaction of the little kids / girls would be P.R.I.C.E.L.E.S.S. ;D
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Post by Phil Parent on Jul 15, 2010 15:13:09 GMT -5
I think it will end up being Shawn Michaels
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Post by doinkmark on Jul 15, 2010 19:44:28 GMT -5
Any veteran wrestler leading Nexus can make sense through a simple "I'm leading a new generation of Superstars/The old generation is dead!" promo, but really, what's the point? Seven new wrestlers united in their desire to destroy anyone and everyone in order to prove that they belong in the big leagues is a perfectly good storyline as it is. They don't "need" a more experienced leader.
However, if it DOES turn out to be Cena behind it, I'll be amused. For years now the IWC has wanted Cena to turn heel again. I'll laugh if WWE once again gives us what we all supposedly want, but do so in a totally screwed up way.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 15, 2010 19:51:32 GMT -5
Personally, if anyone is going to be in charge of it, my hope is that it's Jericho. He's immensely proud of Barrett, he hasn't had much to do lately, and if anyone's going to have the smarts to do it, it's him.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Jul 15, 2010 20:50:37 GMT -5
Any veteran wrestler leading Nexus can make sense through a simple "I'm leading a new generation of Superstars/The old generation is dead!" promo, but really, what's the point? Seven new wrestlers united in their desire to destroy anyone and everyone in order to prove that they belong in the big leagues is a perfectly good storyline as it is. They don't "need" a more experienced leader.However, if it DOES turn out to be Cena behind it, I'll be amused. For years now the IWC has wanted Cena to turn heel again. I'll laugh if WWE once again gives us what we all supposedly want, but do so in a totally screwed up way. That's fine up to a point, but they've done that now. In a month or so they've comprehensively decimated John Cena, Bret Hart, Vince McMahon, Ricky Steamboat, a host of other legends and every face in Raw's midcard. After they interfere and determine the result of the main event on Sunday, they'll have pretty much done every variation of beatdown possible. Now it has to move on.
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