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Post by joeiscool on Nov 3, 2010 15:45:22 GMT -5
despite the fact that Linda lost, i hpe that they stick with the stand up for wwe campagin. I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I'm really behind it. Unless Linda plans to run for another seat in a few years, the WWE ain't doin' s***. They don't need to do s*** anyway, they are a huge rich company and this standing up thing was just to get votes. Not really get votes. I think Vince felt bad because they were trashing the WWE. His ego couldn't handle people pointing out the WWE's flaws...
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Nov 3, 2010 16:05:26 GMT -5
Unless Linda plans to run for another seat in a few years, the WWE ain't doin' s***. They don't need to do s*** anyway, they are a huge rich company and this standing up thing was just to get votes. Not really get votes. I think Vince felt bad because they were trashing the WWE. His ego couldn't handle people pointing out the WWE's flaws... And yet he hasn't had any of us kill- *BANG*
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Post by joeiscool on Nov 3, 2010 16:26:38 GMT -5
Not really get votes. I think Vince felt bad because they were trashing the WWE. His ego couldn't handle people pointing out the WWE's flaws... And yet he hasn't had any of us kill- *BANG* does he even know the internet exists?
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Nov 3, 2010 16:29:33 GMT -5
And yet he hasn't had any of us kill- *BANG* does he even know the internet exists? *Looks up from pool of blood* Yes,but he probably does not know how to use it.Can I get a bandage and some aspirin?
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Post by seamonsters on Nov 3, 2010 17:35:10 GMT -5
A move away from PG is not going to happen. Look at what happened when Vince inherited the WWF from his dad. He stopped having blood in matches, he went for a cartoony megaface as his top star, and he aimed for the mainstream, and got just a little taste of it - and that's what he's wanted ever since. This is his vision of what "Sports Entertainment" is. SuperCena is just the fourth coming of Hogan (after the abortive attempts to push Lex Luger and Ahmed Johnson to the moon). Occurences of blading between then and the attitude era could be counted on your fingers, and was against Vince wishes. Hogan and Flair got away with it because they were at the top of the card, Bret had to convince Vince that it was hardway because he feared getting fired over it. And then there's the Mattell contract. Mattel is one of the biggest companies in the world. Vince has spent his entire WWF/E tenure trying to bag it, and as long as he's got it, they'll never allow him to go back to TV14, even if he wanted to, and the only time he went there was in the Monday Night Wars, when he risked losing it all, and he followed the direction of ECW. The Attitude era was an anomaly. This is business as usual. I think they'll stop with the stopping matches when someone bleeds hardway, but I don't really want blading back. If someone bleeds hardway, something has gone wrong - it happened three times in nine months, and each occassion it warranted a stoppage. The first time was fifteen minutes into a sixty minute iron man match, the second time was a cut eyelid (who blades their eyelid!) in the first minute of a ladder match, and the third time was when CM Punk's cut needed fourteen stitches. But you cannot allow uncontrolled bleeding for 45 minutes. You can't allow someone to bleed into their eye in a risky environment like a ladder match, and you can't let someone with a gash that needs 14 stitches to bleed unattended. If I'm being honest, in all my years of watching WWF/E (I've barely missed a TV show in eighteen years, and I've watched WWF going back as far as Wrestlemania I) those were three of the worst five hardway bleeds I've seen (the other two being Joey Mercury where he was pulled out of the ladder match, and HHH in the Arkansas pen match at IYH) That's one of the bad things about blading - it's done in a very controlled manner via a small nick with a razor in a place where you bleed a lot, but isn't life threatening. And when you blade, you carry on like nothing's happened, which means that when someone bleeds hardway, it makes the times when wrestlers blade meaningless when you continue like nothing's happened. When I was 8 years old, this company brought me a man having his arm chewed to pieces by a cobra, the perpetrator later slapping a woman and almost nailing her with a steel chair. Another sending his partner through a plate glass window. Not to mention a case of attempted murder and a Wrestlemania main event based around doctored photos and accusations of infidelity And yet, that product would probable be considered PG if not even lower by today's TV rating standards. That product was PG. WWF was always PG until 1998.
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Post by JMA on Nov 3, 2010 18:01:16 GMT -5
I'd rather have WWE voluntarily put out bad programming for 6 years than the government forcing them to for an indefinite amount of time. >implying such a thing would ever happen WTF is with all the paranoia porn these days?
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Post by JMA on Nov 3, 2010 18:02:25 GMT -5
I love how some (not most, but some) seem to think it's either Attitude Era or PG, and that there's NOTHING in between. I don't think that many people are really saying we should go back to Attitude Era levels, but saying 'shut the front door' and 'JBL is poopy' instead of *gasp* using a dirty word is offensive and insults my intelligence. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Post by joeiscool on Nov 3, 2010 19:22:40 GMT -5
PG thing is a wonder to me. Not so much that they did it, but the complete 180 vince took about the product.
From about 1997 to like 2008 Vince made millions making some of the most violent smut filled entertainment on tv(which was marketed to kids), and when ever questioned about the content, he basically gave some defiant answer about parents needing to take responsibility for what their children watch.
2009-2010 He seems to be losing money putting on family friendly entertainment... Yet he's really proud of it to the point he once bashed tna for being too racy.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 3, 2010 20:00:46 GMT -5
PG thing is a wonder to me. Not so much that they did it, but the complete 180 vince took about the product. From about 1997 to like 2008 Vince made millions making some of the most violent smut filled entertainment on tv(which was marketed to kids), and when ever questioned about the content, he basically gave some defiant answer about parents needing to take responsibility for what their children watch. 2009-2010 He seems to be losing money putting on family friendly entertainment... Yet he's really proud of it to the point he once bashed tna for being too racy. Well, for one, they're not losing money. Not by a long shot. They have a 7-digit profit margin. They made money before 1997 as well, with a tamer product. If they were losing money, they'd not operate. Of everything you can say about Vince, he's a businessman. Yeah, he has done a 180 on the product content, but the content was changing before 2009. They stopped calling Hornswaggle the "Little Bastard" back in 2007, and you know the Benoit incident also had a major impact of what they've done. Yeah, it is hypocritical insulting TNA for being racy given that their format worked because of what WWE did, but I can't say they didn't have a reason to change.
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Post by Dean-o on Nov 3, 2010 21:28:43 GMT -5
2009-2010 He seems to be losing money putting on family friendly entertainment... Yet he's really proud of it to the point he once bashed tna for being too racy. This seems to be a wide comment used by many people who hate the PG era: That the WWE is losing money. That couldn't be further from the truth.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 3, 2010 21:37:48 GMT -5
I don't actually mind being PG, it's all about the writing and booking...and for the most part it's awful. They're booking using Attitude Era practices, but they want to be a Rock N' Wrestling environment, this needs to change, the booking needs to change, a lot of things needs to change and the rating has nothing to do with it.
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