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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Oct 19, 2010 19:09:36 GMT -5
Since when did people start buying into Warrior's diatribes and hate on the M$M?
I quit.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Oct 19, 2010 19:37:09 GMT -5
Oh good job guys.
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Post by baerrtt on Oct 20, 2010 12:28:08 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with being in the business solely for money. There is something wrong if, by all accounts, you disrespect or aren't grateful to your colleagues especially during a period when, with you on top, the payoffs your colleagues receive lowers due to your inability to draw like the previous guy (Hogan).
The problem the likes of Dibiase, Heenan, Bret Hart and others have with Jim is that after awhile he just wasn't reliable in his role. Not being careful with opponents (that is a legit gripe) in the ring, being off with fans, cutting himself off from the roster etc.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 20, 2010 13:08:27 GMT -5
Warrior's got a lot of nerve to talk about someone lacking integrity and honor, seeing as how he tried to hold up a live PPV for more money and said Bobby Heenan deserved to have cancer. f*** this guy. The truth it that Warrior asked for more money weeks if not months before SummerSlam and Vince agreed. Vince regretted agreeing to renegotiate Warrior's deal so he decided to fire Warrior after SummerSlam. Vince had plenty of time to change the main event and build up something else for that main event on TV. Vince and WWE strongly imply that Warrior held them up for more money right before the PPV, which is flatly false. Warrior did it well in advance and Vince agreed to it. He did not figuratively "hold a gun to his head" at the last minute as WWE portrays it. Vince didn't want to pay Warrior what he agreed to pay him.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Oct 20, 2010 13:17:31 GMT -5
The truth it that Warrior asked for more money weeks if not months before SummerSlam and Vince agreed. Vince regretted agreeing to renegotiate Warrior's deal so he decided to fire Warrior after SummerSlam. Vince had plenty of time to change the main event and build up something else for that main event on TV. Vince and WWE strongly imply that Warrior held them up for more money right before the PPV, which is flatly false. Warrior did it well in advance and Vince agreed to it. He did not figuratively "hold a gun to his head" at the last minute as WWE portrays it. Source on this? I'm not saying it's wrong, as Vince isn't exactly a paragon of virtue. I'm just saying this is literally the first time I've heard this. If it came from Warrior himself, I'm not exactly inclined to accept it at face value.
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Post by Throwback on Oct 20, 2010 13:18:59 GMT -5
Warrior's got a lot of nerve to talk about someone lacking integrity and honor, seeing as how he tried to hold up a live PPV for more money and said Bobby Heenan deserved to have cancer. f*** this guy. The truth it that Warrior asked for more money weeks if not months before SummerSlam and Vince agreed. Vince regretted agreeing to renegotiate Warrior's deal so he decided to fire Warrior after SummerSlam. Vince had plenty of time to change the main event and build up something else for that main event on TV. Vince and WWE strongly imply that Warrior held them up for more money right before the PPV, which is flatly false. Warrior did it well in advance and Vince agreed to it. He did not figuratively "hold a gun to his head" at the last minute as WWE portrays it. Vince didn't want to pay Warrior what he agreed to pay him. source?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 20, 2010 13:24:46 GMT -5
The truth it that Warrior asked for more money weeks if not months before SummerSlam and Vince agreed. Vince regretted agreeing to renegotiate Warrior's deal so he decided to fire Warrior after SummerSlam. Vince had plenty of time to change the main event and build up something else for that main event on TV. Vince and WWE strongly imply that Warrior held them up for more money right before the PPV, which is flatly false. Warrior did it well in advance and Vince agreed to it. He did not figuratively "hold a gun to his head" at the last minute as WWE portrays it. Source on this? I'm not saying it's wrong, as Vince isn't exactly a paragon of virtue. I'm just saying this is literally the first time I've heard this. If it came from Warrior himself, I'm not exactly inclined to accept it at face value. Dave Meltzer put out an article after the Warrior DVD where he goes through various inaccuracies in the Warrior DVD. Meltzer claims Vince agreed in writing to increase Warrior's deal to what Hogan made. Meltzer reports that firing was because he (Vince) didn't like what he agreed to and that the firing itself has been part of legal issues between Warrior and WWE.
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Post by Woooooolhouse! on Oct 20, 2010 13:27:27 GMT -5
Warrior should host the American version of "The Weakest Link." His unneccesary insults and just flat-out rude/disgusting comments would fit right in alongside England's Anne Robinson.
I remember Conan O'Brien played a dubbed version of her insulting contestants, and one of the insults was: "If you were handicapped, I would beat you to death with your own wheelchair."
Who can't picture reading that in a Warrior blog?
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Oct 20, 2010 13:32:52 GMT -5
If this were anybody else but Helwig, I might take it at face value.
Since it's Helwig, and since it gets predictably ridiculous after the first part (the idea of Ted going wild when he had money to spend and becoming desperate when he didn't is at least plausible), I'm not.
The comparison between the Ultimate Warrior and the Million Dollar Man is bull****. I've seen matches involving both guys, and DiBiase was without question the better performer. DiBiase was also great at getting heat outside the ring, and was one of the biggest heat-magnets in the company. He was at the very least to the eighties WWF what CM Punk has been in the last couple of years. Warrior had only one really memorable moment: beating Hulk Hogan. That's what he's known for. That's who he is. The guy who beat Hulk Hogan, and maybe also the guy who beat the Honky Tonk Man. After his victory against Hogan, he didn't do anything of note, did he?
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Post by dav on Oct 20, 2010 13:38:45 GMT -5
Source on this? I'm not saying it's wrong, as Vince isn't exactly a paragon of virtue. I'm just saying this is literally the first time I've heard this. If it came from Warrior himself, I'm not exactly inclined to accept it at face value. Dave Meltzer put out an article after the Warrior DVD where he goes through various inaccuracies in the Warrior DVD. Meltzer claims Vince agreed in writing to increase Warrior's deal to what Hogan made. Meltzer reports that firing was because he (Vince) didn't like what he agreed to and that the firing itself has been part of legal issues between Warrior and WWE. What're his sources for that though? He have a copy of the agreement when doing the report?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 20, 2010 13:43:30 GMT -5
Dave Meltzer put out an article after the Warrior DVD where he goes through various inaccuracies in the Warrior DVD. Meltzer claims Vince agreed in writing to increase Warrior's deal to what Hogan made. Meltzer reports that firing was because he (Vince) didn't like what he agreed to and that the firing itself has been part of legal issues between Warrior and WWE. What're his sources for that though? He have a copy of the agreement when doing the report? No clue who his sources were in 1991 or who they are now. I think that's by design as he wants them to remain his sources.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2010 14:00:25 GMT -5
I've never heard of this agreement between Warrior and WWF months in advance. I have heard the story multiple times that the night of, he tried to get more money. Until I hear opposite of that, I'm not going to believe it.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 20, 2010 14:06:59 GMT -5
I've never heard of this agreement between Warrior and WWF months in advance. I have heard the story multiple times that the night of, he tried to get more money. Until I hear opposite of that, I'm not going to believe it. Probably wasn't 'months' but it was weeks in advance.
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Post by Throwback on Oct 20, 2010 17:54:54 GMT -5
I've never heard of this agreement between Warrior and WWF months in advance. I have heard the story multiple times that the night of, he tried to get more money. Until I hear opposite of that, I'm not going to believe it. Probably wasn't 'months' but it was weeks in advance. I've never seen the warrior shoot. Does it come up?
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Oct 20, 2010 18:01:10 GMT -5
Ted did not deserve a lot of the comments Warrior has put against him. At the end of the day Ted is an absolute legend in wrestling. A huge name, one of the biggest of all time. He's wrestled all over the world, had huge respect paid to him by Vince and Baba, man evented Wrestlemania etc. You could legitimately say the same exact things about Warrior.
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