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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 0:58:14 GMT -5
...since Hogan and Bischoff came to TNA. So was it worth it for TNA to hired them?
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 4, 2011 1:03:45 GMT -5
No, that's all I'm going to say.
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Post by Massive G on Jan 4, 2011 1:09:23 GMT -5
Is there any other answer but "no"? They haven't achieved anything with them. Well, nothing good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 1:10:47 GMT -5
Is there any other answer but "no"? They haven't achieved anything with them. Well, nothing good. 1.4 Rating Brother
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jan 4, 2011 1:14:06 GMT -5
...since Hogan and Bischoff came to TNA so was is worth it for TNA to hired them?
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Post by rogers67 on Jan 4, 2011 1:16:09 GMT -5
heres your answer...
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Post by efram on Jan 4, 2011 2:07:40 GMT -5
voted No, way too many reasons to list why.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 4, 2011 2:14:57 GMT -5
Hogan? No, he's really added a whole lot of nothing.
However, I do think it was worth getting Bischoff involved because from what little I've watched of TNA over the past year their production quality has improved a tonne, which was something that really looked bush league in the past. From everything I've heard that's due to the involvement of Bischoff and his production company so I think they deserve credit for that
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Post by deadstock on Jan 4, 2011 3:07:21 GMT -5
Hogan should stick to P.R i really like the involvement of Bischoff and his production company.
They should hire talent scouts im sure there are 100s of wrestlers hungry for a shot of tv time.
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Post by kyromax on Jan 4, 2011 3:10:16 GMT -5
As a brand, they have got more attention since, but additions like Jeff Hardy(aside from a few good matches with Angle has done nothing, and should not be World Champion), Nasty Boys, Syxx Pac, Scott Hall, Bubba the Love Sponge, and eventually Matt Hardy have added nothing to the company. At least Ric Flair helped put over young talent, none of those names did that in any way. Complete waste of money.
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Post by wcw on Jan 4, 2011 3:17:25 GMT -5
No and heres why if I told you two years ago that TNA was going to go out in 2010 and sign Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy, Mr.Kennedy/Anderson, and keep all the talent they already had you would think the company would take off or at least see a tangible increase in ratings and popularity at the very least.
But have they? Ratings went up for 2-3 weeks and it went right back to where it always was. TNA's brand awareness is about right where it was. By all reports PPV buys and house shows are still where they were.
Its a failed experiment. Hogan and Bischoff couldn't do it. It might not be their fault, it might only partially be their fault, or it may be their fault but they haven't done what they were suppose to for TNA. Maybe no one could for TNA maybe Hulk and Eric just weren't the right guys. Who knows but TNA clearly needs a different direction.
The only thing I can recommend for TNA is to get a clear cut creative direction (That has nothing to do with Vince Russo). Too many cooks in the kitchen. TNA needs a guy with a creative vision for the product and they need to carry out that vision.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 4, 2011 5:37:15 GMT -5
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Jan 4, 2011 6:18:14 GMT -5
1 yes vote = lmao²
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Post by poi zen rana on Jan 4, 2011 11:41:17 GMT -5
The way Russo was taking the company from mid 09 when Dutch left until HogSchoff arrived was one of my favorite TNA periods. For all the crap Russo gets he was doing some good things. Can you imagine an AJ/Joe/Daniels match being the main focus of a PPV under HogSchoff? I can't. Production quality may have risen but booking has not.
HIRE RUSSO
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Post by Trent Valentine on Jan 4, 2011 11:44:44 GMT -5
you want an answer?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 11:46:25 GMT -5
I'd say no.
They (and the majority of guys that they brought with them) don't fit into TNA's branding.
On top of that they sold a few t-shirts, which a better freakin' design team could do.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 4, 2011 12:15:52 GMT -5
I went from being as interested as I ever was in TNA in mid-'09 to barely being able to make it through a single Impact. So from my interest level, no, no it wasn't.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 4, 2011 12:35:33 GMT -5
No and heres why if I told you two years ago that TNA was going to go out in 2010 and sign Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy, Mr.Kennedy/Anderson, and keep all the talent they already had you would think the company would take off or at least see a tangible increase in ratings and popularity at the very least. But have they? Ratings went up for 2-3 weeks and it went right back to where it always was. TNA's brand awareness is about right where it was. By all reports PPV buys and house shows are still where they were. Its a failed experiment. Hogan and Bischoff couldn't do it. It might not be their fault, it might only partially be their fault, or it may be their fault but they haven't done what they were suppose to for TNA. Maybe no one could for TNA maybe Hulk and Eric just weren't the right guys. Who knows but TNA clearly needs a different direction. The only thing I can recommend for TNA is to get a clear cut creative direction (That has nothing to do with Vince Russo). Too many cooks in the kitchen. TNA needs a guy with a creative vision for the product and they need to carry out that vision. Well said guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 12:46:16 GMT -5
No one knew what TNA was prior to their arrival, and no one seems to know what it is a year later. Hogan had a ton of talk show coverage when his book came out, and then had over 2 million viewers watch his debut segment, but TNA was never able to capitalize on that momentum because their brand is simply not very recognizable. Couple that with the popularity of wrestling in general going down the shitter, and it isn't surprising.
TNA has to be content with being WCW pre-1994, where WWE talent (cast-offs or otherwise) can get main event pushes and wrestlers (and fans) can have at least a viable alternative.
Hogan, Rock, Austin, Flair.....no one will launch TNA. Wrestling outside of the WWE is probably deader than a doornail at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 12:57:35 GMT -5
No and heres why if I told you two years ago that TNA was going to go out in 2010 and sign Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy, Mr.Kennedy/Anderson, and keep all the talent they already had you would think the company would take off or at least see a tangible increase in ratings and popularity at the very least. But have they? Ratings went up for 2-3 weeks and it went right back to where it always was. TNA's brand awareness is about right where it was. By all reports PPV buys and house shows are still where they were. Its a failed experiment. Hogan and Bischoff couldn't do it. It might not be their fault, it might only partially be their fault, or it may be their fault but they haven't done what they were suppose to for TNA. Maybe no one could for TNA maybe Hulk and Eric just weren't the right guys. Who knows but TNA clearly needs a different direction. The only thing I can recommend for TNA is to get a clear cut creative direction (That has nothing to do with Vince Russo). Too many cooks in the kitchen. TNA needs a guy with a creative vision for the product and they need to carry out that vision. Well said guy. I concur as well. TNA needs to accept that they have a dedicated fan base of about 1MM people who will watch you show. Now take some chances with it. TNA's guilty of really trying to do too much. They're "extreme," they're "controversial," they're "cool," they're "funny," they're "serious sports," they're "real wrestling," etc, etc. A brand identity can't be "we're everything." That's how you get no new viewers. If you went to the store, picked up a DVD and on the cover it said, "A romantic comedy horror action film with extreme nudity from the producers of Sex and the City and the writers of Hostel, directed by Sophia Coppola." You'd get a few random people to pick it up and watch it, but it would just be a huge mess that wouldn't make sense. I'd love for TNA to pick one thing and run with it. If they went to be "real wrestling" then make it real. If they want to be uber controversial - then do that, but you can't be both, unfortunately.
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