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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 3, 2011 12:00:34 GMT -5
I saw it this morning and I thought it was pretty good. One part I didn't really get though: {Spoiler}When the black guy from Twilight agrees to go with the guy from Flashdance. Then, he tries to attack him after the douchey dude throws his sonic boom at him. I just didn't get why he attacked him after agreeing to go with him. And is January Jones this bad on Mad Men? She sucked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2011 12:34:41 GMT -5
So, is the Angel here suppose to be the same Angel from X3, even though they're the opposite genders, or was there 2 different Angels? I was under the impression this was supposed to be a reboot so I guess all bets are off. And somewhere Eric Bana just bought Tobey McGuire and Rebecca Rominj a drink.
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Post by DSR on Jun 3, 2011 12:59:20 GMT -5
So, is the Angel here suppose to be the same Angel from X3, even though they're the opposite genders, or was there 2 different Angels? In the comic books, there is a second, female Angel, though she wasn't introduced until around 2001 or so.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jun 3, 2011 15:00:06 GMT -5
So, is the Angel here suppose to be the same Angel from X3, even though they're the opposite genders, or was there 2 different Angels? In the comic books, there is a second, female Angel, though she wasn't introduced until around 2001 or so. And I am pretty sure her actual birth name is Angel, thus the name doubling.
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Post by chazraps on Jun 3, 2011 15:45:12 GMT -5
Loved it, possibly best X-Men film there is.
Only gripe was Beast looked like shit.
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 3, 2011 15:47:56 GMT -5
And that's not even getting into the whole thing with Mystique or Banshee (that IS Banshee right?) and how their roles in this movie screw up continuity, or the whole, you know, Beast thing which is TOTALLY out of whack with everything in the preceding three films. What's wrong with the Banshee continuity? It'd go hand in hand with having a young daughter (Siryn) by the time X-Men 2 takes place. Nothing per se, just that you know...WHERE THE HELL IS HE FOR THE REST OF THE FILMS? Do they kill him off in this or something? I mean, not for nothin' but if they DON'T....how the hell do they explain him NOT being there when his daughter was assaulted and kidnapped by Stryker's team, or when the ENTIRE mutant population was forced to choose sides or be exterminated by humans? What, was he off on Muir Island shagging Moira MacTaggert? ;D
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Post by chazraps on Jun 3, 2011 15:50:04 GMT -5
And that's not even getting into the whole thing with Mystique or Banshee (that IS Banshee right?) and how their roles in this movie screw up continuity, or the whole, you know, Beast thing which is TOTALLY out of whack with everything in the preceding three films. {Spoiler}Yes, it is Banshee. You're right with Mystique though. I guess it does make sense to some degree, simply because she went straight to where Cerebro was. So it's understandable that she may've been part of the original team film timeline wise.
However, as I said, based off of what I read it's really messed up with the continuity and messed up bad. The timeline is all over the place. They really should've just rebooted the franchise and went with the original team of Cyclops, Jean, Angel, Iceman, and pre-mutated Beast. This is all incorrect. The movie painstakingly reveals the timeline of the other films to make perfect sense. The cameo in question takes place where the character would logically be, and as for the question fo ages, that is explained as well.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 3, 2011 15:51:46 GMT -5
In the comic books, there is a second, female Angel, though she wasn't introduced until around 2001 or so. And I am pretty sure her actual birth name is Angel, thus the name doubling. Yeah, her name is Angel Salvadore, and she was created during Grant Morrison's New X-Men run. Her code name was Tempest, so I'm not really sure why they didn't market her that way for the film. It caused a lot of rage from people thinking they'd turned Warren into a chick.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jun 3, 2011 16:01:57 GMT -5
And I am pretty sure her actual birth name is Angel, thus the name doubling. Yeah, her name is Angel Salvadore, and she was created during Grant Morrison's New X-Men run. Her code name was Tempest, so I'm not really sure why they didn't market her that way for the film. It caused a lot of rage from people thinking they'd turned Warren into a chick. I remember hearing that name. Wasn't she some underage Latina runaway, who got pregant, and suddenly had like 10 kids? I also remember some conflict emerged there.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 3, 2011 17:40:29 GMT -5
Every time I see this promo pic: I think Straight outta Compton Crazy motherf***er named Ice Cube...
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 3, 2011 18:03:50 GMT -5
Yeah, her name is Angel Salvadore, and she was created during Grant Morrison's New X-Men run. Her code name was Tempest, so I'm not really sure why they didn't market her that way for the film. It caused a lot of rage from people thinking they'd turned Warren into a chick. I remember hearing that name. Wasn't she some underage Latina runaway, who got pregant, and suddenly had like 10 kids? I also remember some conflict emerged there. Yeah. She laid and hatched a bunch of eggs, in what may have been one of the most absurd comic storylines ever.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jun 3, 2011 18:30:28 GMT -5
*Reads more into it*
Grant Morrison? Ah, yes.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 3, 2011 18:44:17 GMT -5
Every time I see this promo pic: I think Straight outta Compton Crazy motherf***er named Ice Cube...I usually think "The X-men are watching you masturbate"
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Post by Michael Coello on Jun 3, 2011 19:13:45 GMT -5
I still have to say, Magneto's silver helmet looks ridiculous as hell on him.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jun 4, 2011 0:44:42 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Yes, it is Banshee. You're right with Mystique though. I guess it does make sense to some degree, simply because she went straight to where Cerebro was. So it's understandable that she may've been part of the original team film timeline wise.
However, as I said, based off of what I read it's really messed up with the continuity and messed up bad. The timeline is all over the place. They really should've just rebooted the franchise and went with the original team of Cyclops, Jean, Angel, Iceman, and pre-mutated Beast. This is all incorrect. The movie painstakingly reveals the timeline of the other films to make perfect sense. The cameo in question takes place where the character would logically be, and as for the question fo ages, that is explained as well. Um, no it isn't explained. The timeline is thrown all over the place and when you watch X1 and X2 you notice it even more. {Spoiler}Xavier would suddenly forget he met Logan at one point? So would Magneto? Only continuity that isn't that messed up is Mystique, Beast, and I imagine a sequel would possibly show Mystique getting pregnant with Nightcrawler.
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Post by chazraps on Jun 4, 2011 1:44:37 GMT -5
This is all incorrect. The movie painstakingly reveals the timeline of the other films to make perfect sense. The cameo in question takes place where the character would logically be, and as for the question fo ages, that is explained as well. Um, no it isn't explained. The timeline is thrown all over the place and when you watch X1 and X2 you notice it even more. {Spoiler}Xavier would suddenly forget he met Logan at one point? So would Magneto? Only continuity that isn't that messed up is Mystique, Beast, and I imagine a sequel would possibly show Mystique getting pregnant with Nightcrawler. They reached out to at least dozens of mutants. Do you remember everyone you had a one sentence exchange with 20+ years ago?
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Post by clifford on Jun 4, 2011 4:49:53 GMT -5
Wow the nitpicking of this film is unbelievable. Can no one just see it as a good action film, which it was?
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Post by theryno665 on Jun 4, 2011 9:40:55 GMT -5
I saw it this morning and I thought it was pretty good. One part I didn't really get though: {Spoiler}When the black guy from Twilight agrees to go with the guy from Flashdance. Then, he tries to attack him after the douchey dude throws his sonic boom at him. I just didn't get why he attacked him after agreeing to go with him. And is January Jones this bad on Mad Men? She sucked. It was a trap that didn't work. But yeah, I just saw this last night and it was great. Probably my favorite X-Men movie thus far. With all the inconsistencies in continuity between the other films, I'd have to say that this movie was so good that if they rebooted the franchise from First Class, I honestly wouldn't mind.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 4, 2011 9:52:47 GMT -5
And I am pretty sure her actual birth name is Angel, thus the name doubling. Yeah, her name is Angel Salvadore, and she was created during Grant Morrison's New X-Men run. Her code name was Tempest, so I'm not really sure why they didn't market her that way for the film. It caused a lot of rage from people thinking they'd turned Warren into a chick. probably because she didn't start calling herself Tempest until she lost her powers. besides, by that point most people just called Warren Archangel (a MUCH cooler name) anyway. as for freaking about continuity, if that's really what's keeping someone from seeing the film, well then it's their loss. this is EASILLY, without any reservation, the best X-men film ever made. besides, X3 and Wolverine sucked ass, so who gives a shit if it throws that continuity out the window?
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jun 4, 2011 11:29:14 GMT -5
Um, no it isn't explained. The timeline is thrown all over the place and when you watch X1 and X2 you notice it even more. {Spoiler}Xavier would suddenly forget he met Logan at one point? So would Magneto? Only continuity that isn't that messed up is Mystique, Beast, and I imagine a sequel would possibly show Mystique getting pregnant with Nightcrawler. They reached out to at least dozens of mutants. Do you remember everyone you had a one sentence exchange with 20+ years ago? {Spoiler}Xavier and Magneto are geniuses. Yes, they would remember meeting Logan at some point. There's no way Charles would've forgot about it. He would've recognized him as soon as he saw him again in X1. Hence why I am saying the film timeline is messed up. I'm sure some people chalk it up to nitpicking, and perhaps they're right, as no film is ever truly perfect. However I feel some of the scenes were just insulting the intelligence of the audience.
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