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Post by rawthentic on Jul 1, 2010 2:08:24 GMT -5
Strikeforce officially released Jake Shields waiving the last month or so of the matching period. He's free to sign to the UFC or wherever.
Frankie Edgar recently said that Gray Maynard should be upset that BJ Penn got an immediate rematch. Penn took exception to this and thinks Edgar wants out. I'm scared for Edgar, think Penn-Stevenson...but that's just me.
Gegard Mousasi will fight 13-3 Jake O'Brien at DREAM. 15 in the first round of DREAM LHW Grand Prix.
Quinton Jackson turned down a fight with Lyoto Machida. Once again raising accusations that Jackson is afraid of the Dragon.
-Page's Tweets....
"Cause my last fight was boring,and homeboy's Karate style is(no offence )REALY boring,I wanna give MY fans a great fight next
(Rashad Evans) was pulling my damn shorts,I tried my damnedest to ko him,sometime things don't work out,trying to get someone who will bang next... This sport is growing so fast,I'm scared it's gonna be like boxing,were people just wanna win on points,and nobody go 4it anymore.
yall need 2 shut the hell up about me ducking people! u r the type of fans i hate! u dont know what the hell u r talking about,he got no belt and is boring,my last fight was boring,so i want a exciting fight next 4 my fans,then Machida and i can fight,so shut the f*** up! "
Yeah, OK...whatever Page. If you were good enough to beat Machida then putting on an exciting fight should not be a problem.
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Jul 1, 2010 6:20:02 GMT -5
Machidas last 5 fights have been awesome, even though he got KTFO in one of them.
Basically, Jackson knows Machida will school him.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Jul 1, 2010 11:09:57 GMT -5
Hmm so shields/Penn or shields/gsp
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jul 1, 2010 11:47:07 GMT -5
Machidas last 5 fights have been awesome, even though he got KTFO in one of them. Basically, Jackson knows Machida will school him. Bingo. And while Machida may not have a belt now, he certainly did recently, and was undefeated. Disappointed with Jackson. For the record I do like Rampage. I just like Machida a lot more.
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Post by The Big J-Sizzle on Jul 1, 2010 12:41:48 GMT -5
Some more random thoughts from Uncle Dana
Via mmamania
Dana White on UFC 116’s main event between Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin:
I’m pumped about this fight. At the end of the day I’m a fight fan too. And this is a real heavyweight fight. I believe this is the biggest heavyweight fight in UFC history. Brock Lesnar is an absolute beast. The way he burst onto the scene, won the title, beat the guys he’s beat, he’s done something that I didn’t think he could do. I didn’t think it was possible with as little fights and experience he had. And a lot of people have felt that since he’s been here, he’s so big, so massive, and so explosive that there should be a super heavyweight division. Well, he’s facing a guy now who weighs 265 pounds, can knock you out with either hand, can submit you, and has never been pushed past the first round in twelve fights. Undefeated. All first round finishes. Anybody that knows anything about mixed martial arts knows it’s hard to go undefeated. And not only to go undefeated, but to stop everybody in the first round, and to do it against guys like Gabriel Gonzaga and Frank Mir, that’s pretty impressive. This is a huge heavyweight match up.
On who he feels is the biggest loser out after Fedor Emelianenko’s loss out of Fedor, Strikeforce, and M-1 Global:
I think they’re all a bunch of losers. Here’s the thing. And everybody knows how long I’ve been saying this and everybody probably thought I was just saying it because I couldn’t come to terms with him. I don’t believe a guy who hasn’t fought anybody since 2005 should be considered one of the best fighters in the world. Yes, he was one of the best in what he accomplished back in the old days, but he hasn’t been fighting anybody recently. And now he just lost to a guy who couldn’t make it in the UFC. And the other thing, they didn’t sell any tickets to that fight. They did under a million-dollar gate, I don’t care what they say publicly, they did under a million-dollar gate. And they did 400 thousand viewers on television. So what that tells me is, nobody cares. The reality is the media, and a few guys on the Internet have pumped this guy up. I can’t believe nobody sees through the B.S.
On David Haye’s recent claims that James Toney is delusional for fighting in the UFC:
He is very right. It’s a freak show. I said I’d never put on a freak show fight and I’m doing it. Listen, this guy [Toney] chased me around the country saying bad things about the sport. If he wants to get his ass whooped, I’m gonna let him. You want me to tell you, ‘James Toney vs. Randy Couture is gonna be the greatest fight in the history of the sport?’ No. I’m building a great card around this fight. You’re not buying the James Toney vs. Randy Couture fight alone. Here’s what I expect; the bell rings, they come to the center of the Octagon, circle each other for a little bit, Randy double legs him, puts him against the fence, squashes his head and the fight is over. But I’m not delusional. We started filming the UFC 118 Countdown show, and as fat as James Toney is, all the guys working on the show say his hands are like lightning, they’re so fast. You can’t disrespect the guy for what he’s accomplished in his career. He could catch Randy and knock him out. Everybody has a puncher’s chance. God forbid.
On what type of business he feels the UFC could have done if they signed him earlier and was able to put on a Fedor vs. Brock Lesnar fight, and if he has any interest to pursue signing Fedor now:
I believe that if we would have been able to take him into the UFC last year, or even right before this loss, and promoted him properly, we could have done big, big business. Now I have no interest in him. Zero. I didn’t think he was great before. It was the media. As soon as he lost, my phone started blowing up and it was media guys being like, ‘what do you think about him losing?’ What do you mean what do I think about him losing? Did you guys hear me saying he was great ever? It was the exact opposite. Like I said earlier, they had 400 thousand people who watched that fight. We did a taped event on Spike TV, versus his live event, and we had 1.5 million viewers. I mean, 400 thousand viewers. The Strikeforce event before this one did 165 thousand viewers. More people watch my video blogs than watched that fight.
On how he feels about now having the undisputed champion of every major weight class under the Zuffa umbrella:
I had it all along. Whatever these websites put out there doesn’t mean jack. You know how you find out who the best guy in the world is? It’s the guy who fights the very best three times a year. That’s who the best is. Should Fedor have been ranked in the top ten in the heavyweight division? Absolutely. But not the top of the heap. I wouldn’t even put him in the top five right now because he hasn’t fought anybody since 2005. Where does beating Brett Rogers get you? Where does beating Andrei Arlovski get you? If he had beaten Fabricio Werdum last weekend, where does that get you? Where does beating those type of guys get you? Nowhere. Imagine him coming to the UFC’s heavyweight division. He’d have to fight guys like Gabriel Gonzaga, Junior dos Santos, Cain Velasquez, Brock Lesnar, and Shane Carwin. You got to get through some nasty, nasty guys in the UFC. And the fighters I just mentioned are fighting those type of guys three times a year. They’re the best heavyweights in the world.
On the potential of a UFC event in Afghanistan:
I don’t know man; we’re trying to pull it off. The crazy thing is that it’s been pushed back because the place we were gonna hold the event just got attacked really badly.
On if he would have any interest in signing Alistair Overeem when he becomes a free agent:
Here we go. Alistair Overeem is gonna be the new guy? Alistsair Overeem got knocked out by Chuck Liddell at 205. You know what’s funny? Because we don’t have him signed he’ll be the new guy. The guy that Chuck knocked out at 205. All the UFC haters will be like, ‘oh yeah, this guy is the best.’ And all the idiot websites will rank him the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.
On the death of MMA fighter Robert Kirkham and the overall safety in MMA, particularly in smaller promotions:
Here’s the deal. Everybody thinks that I’m a hater and that I’m trying to control everything. No. The reality is that if you can’t afford to do the proper medical testing of your fighters, you have no business being in the fight business. That’s what’s wrong with these smaller promotions. The UFC has saved people’s lives. There have been young kids who come and try out for The Ultimate Fighter who we find out have brain aneurisms. Anybody could have a brain aneurism. You could have one, I could have one. It’s not from fighting. But you have to detect that and be able to get it taken care of. Thiago Alves had one and we took care of that. Think about this; since the UFC started back in 1993, 63 kids have died playing high school football. You don’t hear about that in the newspapers every day. You don’t’ hear about people running around trying to ban football. There has never been a death in the UFC since 1993. These smaller promotions can’t afford to do the proper medical testing. And if they can’t afford to do it, they shouldn’t be doing fights.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 1, 2010 15:44:57 GMT -5
Ya know, all credit where it's due as a businessman, but Dana seems like a really big douchebag.
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Post by Cela on Jul 1, 2010 17:17:52 GMT -5
Hmm so shields/Penn or shields/gsp He wants Silva.
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Post by The Big J-Sizzle on Jul 1, 2010 17:33:20 GMT -5
Dammit!!! Shogun out tell March 2011
Via mmafighting
LAS VEGAS -- Rashad Evans won a light-heavyweight championship title opportunity when he beat Quinton "Rampage" Jackson in May, but he's going to have to wait a while to cash in his golden ticket. UFC President Dana White confirmed Thursday that current champion Mauricio "Shogun" Rua won't be back in the octagon for another eight months, likely returning in March 2011.
Still, White took that as good news, saying that his surgically repaired knee is healing well since a recent surgery."Shogun's great, his knee's coming along great," White said just after the UFC 116 pre-fight press conference. "It's all good."
Rua (19-4) captured the title at UFC 113 in May, when he avenged an earlier controversy loss to Lyoto Machida by becoming the first man to defeat him. The Muay Thai stylist knocked out Machida in just 3:35 to take the belt.
Meanwhile in the division, a rumored matchup pitting the aformentioned Jackson against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira has not been put together by the company, as has been reported by some MMA news outlets."It's not true, we don't have anything set up yet," White said. "With that division right now, Little Nog could fight Rampage, Rampage could fight Machida. There's a lot of fights we could make and we haven't made any decisions on that fight."
Asked if Nogueira-Jackson is being seriously considered by the UFC, White held his cards to the vest."We're looking at all of them," he said. "Time-wise, Rampage is still promoting the [A-Team] movie overseas, so we're trying to figure out what the next fight will be."
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Post by The Big J-Sizzle on Jul 1, 2010 17:36:14 GMT -5
Ya know, all credit where it's due as a businessman, but Dana seems like a really big douchebag. He dose come off as a prick. BUT....a lot of the stuff he said I agree with. Especially about how the hype train will now get behind Alistair "Please don't piss test me" Overeem I dont like to talk smack without some "proof". I know I cant say for sure he is on roids. I just find this intresting.....
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Jul 1, 2010 17:57:41 GMT -5
Dana has harsh words for Fedor Via mmamania "Nope. Now I don't have to hear about him anymore. I like it.... He has star power? Nobody cares. Do you realize this is something that's been created by the mixed martial arts media? Do you know how many people watched his fight the other night? 400,000 people watched it. The guy has absolutely no star power. They sold no tickets to that fight, either.... Here's the problem, the guy loses and gets to fight one of these guys? I've been saying for years this guy isn't all that. He's not great. Everybody's talking about how great this guy is, no he's not. Now he should deserve to come into the UFC and fight the best? No way!... The guys who fight in the UFC are fighting the very best three times a year. This guy hasn't fought anybody since 2005. The media created him and hyped him up. Not me. What do you want me to say? This is what I've been saying?" I couldn't agree more with what Dana said. As much as a great guy that Fedor is, he hasn't had a real opponent since Pride closed down and in the UFC heavyweight division with Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, and Junior Dos Santos he would have been devastated. In his two Strikeforce apperances, Fedor barely defeated a part time tire repair-man and he got submitted by a guy with a 2-2 UFC record in a little over a minute. No matter how you slice it, that's not very good for the supposed number one fighter on the planet.
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Post by Cela on Jul 1, 2010 17:59:02 GMT -5
Ya know, all credit where it's due as a businessman, but Dana seems like a really big douchebag. He dose come off as a prick. BUT....a lot of the stuff he said I agree with. Especially about how the hype train will now get behind Alistair "Please don't piss test me" Overeem I dont like to talk smack without some "proof". I know I cant say for sure he is on roids. I just find this intresting..... Nonsense, its all just excercise and horse meat. No magic vitamins whatsoever.
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Post by Cela on Jul 1, 2010 17:59:57 GMT -5
Dana has harsh words for Fedor Via mmamania "Nope. Now I don't have to hear about him anymore. I like it.... He has star power? Nobody cares. Do you realize this is something that's been created by the mixed martial arts media? Do you know how many people watched his fight the other night? 400,000 people watched it. The guy has absolutely no star power. They sold no tickets to that fight, either.... Here's the problem, the guy loses and gets to fight one of these guys? I've been saying for years this guy isn't all that. He's not great. Everybody's talking about how great this guy is, no he's not. Now he should deserve to come into the UFC and fight the best? No way!... The guys who fight in the UFC are fighting the very best three times a year. This guy hasn't fought anybody since 2005. The media created him and hyped him up. Not me. What do you want me to say? This is what I've been saying?" I couldn't agree more with what Dana said. As much as a great guy that Fedor is, he hasn't had a real opponent since Pride closed down and in the UFC heavyweight division with Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, and Junior Dos Santos he would have been devastated. In his two Strikeforce apperances, Fedor barely defeated a part time tire repair-man and he got submitted by a guy with a 2-2 UFC record in a little over a minute. No matter how you slice it, that's not very good for the supposed number one fighter on the planet. What about the two former UFC champs he dispatched in less than round cumulatively?
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jul 1, 2010 18:25:46 GMT -5
But I gotta LOL at Dana White trashing Overeem. For the better part of last year White was waxing on about how great Overeem was and he couldn't wait to sign him, yet now that He might stay with strikeforce a typical Dana White 360.
As far as Overeem doing roids, until I see actual proof I'll going to treat it as hearsay.
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Post by Cela on Jul 1, 2010 18:31:54 GMT -5
But I gotta LOL at Dana White trashing Overeem. For the better part of last year White was waxing on about how great Overeem was and he couldn't wait to sign him, yet now that He might stay with strikeforce a typical Dana White 360. So Dana wants to hire him again?
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jul 1, 2010 18:50:27 GMT -5
Ya know, all credit where it's due as a businessman, but Dana seems like a really big douchebag. I respect Dana immensely as a businessman for making UFC so mainstream. However I also think he's a big part of what's wrong with MMA. He's extremely arrogant about UFC. He looks down on anybody not in UFC and as soon as he cuts someone considers them trash, but will hype a guy up to the moon if he wants to sign him. He's waxing lyrical about Lesnar, and I like Brock but come on- he's had nowhere near enough fights to really claim he's the world's best. he's just not faced enough people. Same with Carwin- he's undefeated but pretty much everyone he fought prior to UFC is a nobody. And yet Fedor's apparently a loser for getting caught by Werdum despite being comfortably up until then. He beat Sylvia and Arlovski within the last couple years, but cause they're not in UFC right now those wins count for nothing in Dana's eyes. Brett Rogers, like Carwin, was undefeated till Fedor fought him but hey-not UFC. Plus he swears non stop. I've been training in martial arts for several years now and a big part is respect & etiquette. "Do you wanna be a f***ing fighter" and all the other f bombs he drops blows any of that etiquette out the window. Respect him big time as a promoter and businessman, I doubt I'd have much time for him as a person. Similar with Anderson Silva- the dude is very talented but boy does he know it. it's why I often root for his opponent.
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Post by The Big J-Sizzle on Jul 1, 2010 18:51:07 GMT -5
But I gotta LOL at Dana White trashing Overeem. For the better part of last year White was waxing on about how great Overeem was and he couldn't wait to sign him, yet now that He might stay with strikeforce a typical Dana White 360. As far as Overeem doing roids, until I see actual proof I'll going to treat it as hearsay. You will never get proof cause he mostly fights in Japan. And when he dose fight in the US, it happens to be in a state where they didn't test him. Strikeforce says the did there own testing. I highly doubt they would expose there HW champ as a roid monkey.
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Post by rawthentic on Jul 1, 2010 19:57:58 GMT -5
Dana has harsh words for Fedor Via mmamania "Nope. Now I don't have to hear about him anymore. I like it.... He has star power? Nobody cares. Do you realize this is something that's been created by the mixed martial arts media? Do you know how many people watched his fight the other night? 400,000 people watched it. The guy has absolutely no star power. They sold no tickets to that fight, either.... Here's the problem, the guy loses and gets to fight one of these guys? I've been saying for years this guy isn't all that. He's not great. Everybody's talking about how great this guy is, no he's not. Now he should deserve to come into the UFC and fight the best? No way!... The guys who fight in the UFC are fighting the very best three times a year. This guy hasn't fought anybody since 2005. The media created him and hyped him up. Not me. What do you want me to say? This is what I've been saying?" I couldn't agree more with what Dana said. As much as a great guy that Fedor is, he hasn't had a real opponent since Pride closed down and in the UFC heavyweight division with Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, and Junior Dos Santos he would have been devastated. In his two Strikeforce apperances, Fedor barely defeated a part time tire repair-man and he got submitted by a guy with a 2-2 UFC record in a little over a minute. No matter how you slice it, that's not very good for the supposed number one fighter on the planet. One of Werdum's losses in the UFC is in Strikeforce and Fedor knocked that same guy out. The two guys Werdum beat are still in the UFC. JDS caught him with an uppercut, thats the same as Werdum catching Fedor with a triangle...you play with you fire, you get burnt. Also, i like(miffed) how people disregard Fedor's win over Andrei Arlovski like AA did not come into that fight riding a 5 fight win streak, including 3 straight in the UFC which included one of Fabricio Werdum's losses in UFC and then consecutive knockouts of Roy Nelson and Ben Rothwell who are two of their best HW's. Also, whats the deal with all the Dana White quotes? Anybody who knows anything about Dana White would not care what he says about Fedor or definetly not Alistair Overeem considering his lips were glued to Overeem's butt cheeks just a year ago when he was negotiating a new contract with Strikeforce. This is Dana's job to make everything seem lame outside the UFC. That's his job but it makes me laugh when people actually pick apart what he says like it's supposed to be making some point...hook, line, and sinker. Dana will attempt to get both of these guys(Werdum as well) but as of now, he has to try and bury them.
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Jul 1, 2010 20:15:57 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more with what Dana said. As much as a great guy that Fedor is, he hasn't had a real opponent since Pride closed down and in the UFC heavyweight division with Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, and Junior Dos Santos he would have been devastated. In his two Strikeforce apperances, Fedor barely defeated a part time tire repair-man and he got submitted by a guy with a 2-2 UFC record in a little over a minute. No matter how you slice it, that's not very good for the supposed number one fighter on the planet. What about the two former UFC champs he dispatched in less than round cumulatively? The UFC has changed a lot since those guys were last champion. If Tim had a hard time taking out a guy with only two fights and Andrei lost a decision to Big Foot (Who is a good guy, but is severely outclassed by most UFC guys) both of them would be wiped out by the guys that I mentioned. As I said, Fedor was a great fighter for his time, but it's not like anyone in the UFC or elsewhere couldn't have beaten the guys that he fought.
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Jul 1, 2010 20:19:39 GMT -5
Ya know, all credit where it's due as a businessman, but Dana seems like a really big douchebag. He dose come off as a prick. BUT....a lot of the stuff he said I agree with. Especially about how the hype train will now get behind Alistair "Please don't piss test me" Overeem I dont like to talk smack without some "proof". I know I cant say for sure he is on roids. I just find this intresting..... Not this crap again. That image (and Im sick of Overeem haters posting that crap) spans 5 years. He cut a LOT of weight to fight at 205, and in 2008 he was around 250 lbs. It's not unreasonable to think he weighed about 220 fight night when fighting at 205. So is it unreasonable to think he put 30 lbs of weight on in a 5 year period?
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Post by rawthentic on Jul 1, 2010 20:20:42 GMT -5
How do you come to the conclusion that Bigfoot would be outclassed by "UFC guys"?
Antonio Silva is the full package. He's huge, durable, powerful, good striker, good jiu-jitsu...that is just unfounded. Hell, he's a stupid second round mistake against Werdum from still being on a huge winning streak.
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