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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 8:34:41 GMT -5
For the first time I can remember I didn't like a promo from The Rock. It just sounded like he tried too hard, plus he did prove Cena right. Cena talked about actually being there for his fans, and he was. The Rock was apparently too busy to show up in Buffalo for all his people. I wasn't a fan of this promo either. His first one back was great, but this one just sounded like he was all roided up and yelling the whole time in short sentences. "The Rock knows. John Cena you think you can talk. Talk to the Rock. That way." He pretty much screamed the ENTIRE PROMO. I fail to see how that's delivering a great promo on top of the fact that Rock said he faced John Cena "like a man." Now unless I missed something here - going out and talking to a live audience and not that person's face to rag on someone isn't exactly coming to them "like a man." This promo was a big let down from the Rock. I'd imagine his notes looked like this . .. Ugh John Cena's promo on the Miz wasn't even worse though. We get it John... gay jokes. The Miz really showed that he can deliver better than both tonight. He had one catchphrase and it was after John Cena set the match up, during the Miz's promo himself he didn't use "I'm Awesome" or "Really?" he just laid out the facts, like how the Rock didn't respond and how the Miz is the face of the company etc. Which is a lot more than I can say for the Rock who still dropped every catchphrase he could tonight.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 1, 2011 8:57:09 GMT -5
I mean, Cena's rap was "You talk about loving the fans, I'm here every week to show it". I cant eyeroll enough reading this. The only reason he's there every week is no one in Hollywood who recognizes talent wants him. Thats why the only movie roles he gets are wwe films roles. Hollywood doesnt force The Rock down our throats like wwe films wants you to believe the yabba dabba doo bitch is anything special. The Rock made his own name using his talents which he has and he doesnt need a billion dollar company or whatever they are worth to make you think he is the be all end all. The Rock made his own name? The Rock doesn't get his first role in The Mummy Returns and then The Scorpion King without WWE. To say he made his own name is flat out wrong.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 1, 2011 9:01:55 GMT -5
Come on now, AT MOST we are going to get a Rock Bottom or a People's Elbow. Probably onto Miz, right before Cena finishes him off with the AA. Maybe they surprise us and it's on Cena, and Rock leaves as a heel. Either way, it is in NO WAY going to be Cena VERSUS Rock. The Miz is the Champion, his match with Cena is set IN STONE. And no way is Miz leaving Wrestlemania with the title. BANK ON IT!
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Post by Snaptastic on Mar 1, 2011 9:02:32 GMT -5
I cant eyeroll enough reading this. The only reason he's there every week is no one in Hollywood who recognizes talent wants him. Thats why the only movie roles he gets are wwe films roles. Hollywood doesnt force The Rock down our throats like wwe films wants you to believe the yabba dabba doo bitch is anything special. The Rock made his own name using his talents which he has and he doesnt need a billion dollar company or whatever they are worth to make you think he is the be all end all. The Rock made his own name? The Rock doesn't get his first role in The Mummy Returns and then The Scorpion King without WWE. To say he made his own name is flat out wrong. Yes the WWE gave him the exposure that goes without saying. But it's the man himself who used the tools he was given to force the spotlight onto himself. His charisma shone through in his promos and at times during matches. The guy can hold a crowd on his every word (even during terrible promos/via Satellite promos). The WWE gave him the exposure, but he did the rest.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 1, 2011 9:03:48 GMT -5
Vena is the put over guy and now he is putting over the Miztake and Rock simultaneously. I would not be surprised if Rock hasn't already taped his next few segments. Very Ted Turner WCW era-like. Rock doesn't need to be anywhere live. Does anyone beleive that was really his dsplay case? A shoddy-looking steel door and a crappy glass shelving unit. I expected Cena to break in and wreck it. So cheap. Yes I do because this wasn't the first time it was used.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 9:08:45 GMT -5
The Rock made his own name? The Rock doesn't get his first role in The Mummy Returns and then The Scorpion King without WWE. To say he made his own name is flat out wrong. Yes the WWE gave him the exposure that goes without saying. But it's the man himself who used the tools he was given to force the spotlight onto himself. His charisma shone through in his promos and at times during matches. The guy can hold a crowd on his every word (even during terrible promos/via Satellite promos). The WWE gave him the exposure, but he did the rest. So you guys agree is what I'm getting. The very phrase "The Rock made his own name" is laughable. He was created and groomed by WWE his whole career. The Rock owes everything to WWE. The Rock wouldn't have the movie roles he has now if it wasn't for the WWE.
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Post by jadison on Mar 1, 2011 9:22:04 GMT -5
After last night, I pretty much hate Rock, Cena, and Miz. And Punk. And Orton. And Triple H.
But I love Sheamus.
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Post by Snaptastic on Mar 1, 2011 9:25:35 GMT -5
Yes the WWE gave him the exposure that goes without saying. But it's the man himself who used the tools he was given to force the spotlight onto himself. His charisma shone through in his promos and at times during matches. The guy can hold a crowd on his every word (even during terrible promos/via Satellite promos). The WWE gave him the exposure, but he did the rest. So you guys agree is what I'm getting. The very phrase "The Rock made his own name" is laughable. He was created and groomed by WWE his whole career. The Rock owes everything to WWE. The Rock wouldn't have the movie roles he has now if it wasn't for the WWE. I agree that he didn't make his own name, that would be foolish to even consider. But it's well known Rock had creative control over his character during the height of his WWE career. So to say he was created and groomed his WHOLE career is just as foolish in my book. I don't think even Vince could have known the kind of megastar he was going to become. But to not credit Rock with any of it, even though he had creative control over his direction is wrong.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 1, 2011 9:33:26 GMT -5
So you guys agree is what I'm getting. The very phrase "The Rock made his own name" is laughable. He was created and groomed by WWE his whole career. The Rock owes everything to WWE. The Rock wouldn't have the movie roles he has now if it wasn't for the WWE. I agree that he didn't make his own name, that would be foolish to even consider. But it's well known Rock had creative control over his character during the height of his WWE career. So to say he was created and groomed his WHOLE career is just as foolish in my book. I don't think even Vince could have known the kind of megastar he was going to become. But to not credit Rock with any of it, even though he had creative control over his direction is wrong. I'm not saying The Rock shouldn't get any credit, but that WWE 's role shouldn't be ignored which is what "The Rock made his own name" implies.
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Post by casualobserver on Mar 1, 2011 9:42:02 GMT -5
The seeds for the return of Hollywood Rock are being planted. Get ready.
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Post by 543Y2J on Mar 1, 2011 9:48:49 GMT -5
My main concern during this whole angle was how Miz looks, out of all the promo time last night I enjoyed his the most. He was pretty much speaking the truth as far as Rock only responding back to Cena and not him. Miz is at the forefront and symbol for the apparent 'youth movement' that has happened for the last year and a half. They can not have him looking weak at Mania. But obviously the companies attention is more directed at Rock vs Cena, that isnt even happening.
I didnt enjoy Rocks promo last night as it felt forced, and the more they start putting the Cena and Rock confronatation over the actual Cena vs Miz match the more i grow concerned. As far as the Rock himself goes I think the fact that he didnt show up in person deffintly proves Cena's point, even though I am a Rock fan.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 1, 2011 11:52:45 GMT -5
The very fact that he was 'via satellite' proved Cena's point. I LOVE The Rock, but if you are going to come back... come back. Fobbing us off with a via-satellite promo kind of proves that he hasn't got time for us.
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Mar 1, 2011 11:54:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I gotta say, I was really underwhelmed by the rock. His valid points were mostly just after the fact rationalizations. His comment about 'making it in Hollywood' for the WWE doesn't hold any water. He wasn't the first, and he arguably isn't the best wrestler/actor to hit Hollywood, and his attempts to drop 'the Rock' made it pretty clear he wasn't doing it for them. Gotta step in here, because this one always annoys me. The Rock didn't choose to drop his name. In fact, switching from "The Rock" to "Dwayne Johnson" was a terrible choice, brand recognition wise. But look at the end credits of The Rundown. It's not a WWE film, but Vince is listed as an executive producer. Why is that, you ask? Because he was billed as The Rock. Hollywood made him change his name so that they wouldn't have to keep pouring buttloads of money into Vince's pockets.
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Post by sybaku on Mar 1, 2011 12:00:46 GMT -5
Or Vince gave them money to produce The Rundown.... I'm not sure just saying its very likely I mean freaking Fred Savage is a executive producer of Always Sunny
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 1, 2011 12:03:20 GMT -5
Can we really argue against the Rock being the most successful wrestler-turned-actor? I mean, seriously, is there anyone else who has had the amount of exposure in acting that he has had and has been in as many significant roles in major pictures? Andre the Giant and Jesse Ventura were in great movies, but they weren't huge actors. Hogans movies were all awful and he couldn't make a career out of it. Roddy Piper had some success, but not on the level the Rock has had.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 12:04:50 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Vince McMahon actually invested in the Rock's movies beyond letting him use the name.
Vince has been trying for years to break into Hollywood.
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Post by sunnytaker on Mar 1, 2011 12:05:35 GMT -5
i kinda thought the Rock was going to pull a "via satellite" tradition when he had all the lights go on and off (side note- wrestlemania whatever- can the Undertaker turn the lights on while the Rock is at the same time snapping his fingers to kill the power?- the STREAK is in danger!!) that they were going to come back on and presto there's the Rock live to later cost Cena the match with riley when cena is distracted by the Rock's music hitting just as he's about to escape the cage because Cena is now expecting the Rock to be there.
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Mar 1, 2011 12:09:37 GMT -5
Or Vince gave them money to produce The Rundown.... I'm not sure just saying its very likely I mean freaking Fred Savage is a executive producer of Always Sunny I'm pretty sure when I looked it up, he hadn't.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 1, 2011 12:10:56 GMT -5
Can we really argue against the Rock being the most successful wrestler-turned-actor? I mean, seriously, is there anyone else who has had the amount of exposure in acting that he has had and has been in as many significant roles in major pictures? Andre the Giant and Jesse Ventura were in great movies, but they weren't huge actors. Hogans movies were all awful and he couldn't make a career out of it. Roddy Piper had some success, but not on the level the Rock has had. Hogan was in Rocky(4, I think?)! That was awesome!
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 1, 2011 12:12:17 GMT -5
Can we really argue against the Rock being the most successful wrestler-turned-actor? I mean, seriously, is there anyone else who has had the amount of exposure in acting that he has had and has been in as many significant roles in major pictures? Andre the Giant and Jesse Ventura were in great movies, but they weren't huge actors. Hogans movies were all awful and he couldn't make a career out of it. Roddy Piper had some success, but not on the level the Rock has had. Hogan was in Rocky(4, I think?)! That was awesome! Rocky 3. It was just slightly above a cameo though, and it was as himself.
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