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Post by VengeanceGOD on Mar 1, 2011 12:13:06 GMT -5
No, it wasn't as himself. He was called "Thunder" something or other.
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Post by Krimzon on Mar 1, 2011 12:15:09 GMT -5
Does Cena even have a point to make? Cena is a wrestler contracted to WWE. Of course he's there every week. Rock ain't a wrestler anymore. Why does he HAVE to show up to prove he loves the fans? The man has a completely different life now. Why should he put that one on hold to come back to his old one to show he still loves us? It's not fair to him.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 1, 2011 12:16:25 GMT -5
No, it wasn't as himself. He was called "Thunder" something or other. Thunderlips. Technically, sure, but he was playing a professional wrestler that was obviously a Hogan stand-in renamed for rights or something. It'd be like booking Mike Tyson in a small role in a Rambo movie as a boxer. Or Jack Black in a small role in a movie as a fat guy (as opposed to all his other big roles in a movie as a fat guy).
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Post by Kay Faban on Mar 1, 2011 12:23:14 GMT -5
Does Cena even have a point to make? Cena is a wrestler contracted to WWE. Of course he's there every week. Rock ain't a wrestler anymore. Why does he HAVE to show up to prove he loves the fans? The man has a completely different life now. Why should he put that one on hold to come back to his old one to show he still loves us? It's not fair to him. He does when the Rock says he's back and never going to leave...and then he's not there for the next two weeks.
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Post by Snaptastic on Mar 1, 2011 12:27:06 GMT -5
Does Cena even have a point to make? Cena is a wrestler contracted to WWE. Of course he's there every week. Rock ain't a wrestler anymore. Why does he HAVE to show up to prove he loves the fans? The man has a completely different life now. Why should he put that one on hold to come back to his old one to show he still loves us? It's not fair to him. He does when the Rock says he's back and never going to leave...and then he's not there for the next two weeks. You obviously didn't take it in the way it was meant. He meant he wasn't going to disappear from WWE TV for years on end. I'd say the best we can hope are sporadic appearances 2-3 times per year.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 1, 2011 13:29:31 GMT -5
No, it wasn't as himself. He was called "Thunder" something or other. Thunderlips. Technically, sure, but he was playing a professional wrestler that was obviously a Hogan stand-in renamed for rights or something. It'd be like booking Mike Tyson in a small role in a Rambo movie as a boxer. Or Jack Black in a small role in a movie as a fat guy (as opposed to all his other big roles in a movie as a fat guy). Yep. He was the "Mouintain of Molten Lust",the "Utlimate Object of Desire" , the one, the only, THUNDERLIPS!
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Post by sunnytaker on Mar 1, 2011 14:18:23 GMT -5
well cena does have a bit of a point- after all being fired couldn't keep Cena off of RAW every week- why should something as minor as a movie career get in the way? ;P
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Post by wrestling4ever on Mar 1, 2011 14:38:02 GMT -5
This is a storyline, the WWE are keeping the two apart until WM or another RAW down the line. So it makes sense for Rock to do a taped promo so Cena has something to say in response. Im thinking that Cena will rip on the Rock for not being there and then saying that is proving his point. So again Rock was in his house because WWE wanted him there, if he came to the show there is no way to really have him call out Cena without Cena responding right then and there. They dont want that to happen on Raw or at least not yet, they want you to pay them to see that on Wrestlemania. You will get a little taste. There is nothing more to it than that. Its all apart of the plan. Whats funny and yet awesome to see at the same time is fans from both sides taking this to the heart and getting into this emotionally. Just look at Twitter, you get a hands on about how the fans are feeling. Everything is playing out pretty well IMO.
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Post by Allan Rivera on Mar 1, 2011 15:29:36 GMT -5
FINALLY... The Rock HAS COME BACK... To his LIVING ROOM.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Mar 1, 2011 16:20:59 GMT -5
No matter how much he gets us all to cheer him... The Rock is, was, and will always be a heel character at the core. He should cut a promo live viaa satellite from L.A. Where he should be at a party, on top of a roof, with bikini clad girls around a heated pool bobbing his head listening to trendy L.A. trance music while drinking Absinthe with Charlie Sheen. THAT is the f***ing Rock. ;D This. one gazillion times this.
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Post by gimpocommando on Mar 1, 2011 17:00:04 GMT -5
I mean, Cena's rap was "You talk about loving the fans, I'm here every week to show it". It's not about loving fans, it's about ownership. One wanted to go into Hollywood as his own persona, instead of one controlled by another, while the other is perfectly fine being controlled by said person while doing whatever said person tells him to do, like go on interview talk programs and talk about the Rock leaving in order to legitimately try at an Oscar. Both are entertainers, you don't "leave" fans, fans come to you, that's the entire point. I don't have the Rock coming into my living room to cut a promo, I watch him from my living room cut a promo from his living room. Cena the character is repulsive, and entirely based on the popularity of the Rock character's attitude, but worse because Cena the person is not as good an entertainer. If Cena left to try and pursue a movie career, I wouldn't miss him, and I wouldn't follow him. I have regrettably followed the Rock in some of his train wreck movies, and mildly enjoyed some of his others, but I followed him because I saw his talent at entertaining while he was on the show. There's a difference between what Cena is saying and why people are upset at the Rock. People aren't upset at the Rock for leaving, fans are upset because the Rock was so good that no one after him made the fans forget about him. Cena couldn't make people forget about the Rock, all Cena can do is be compared to what the Rock was, and in that comparison he'll fail forever.
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Post by Dat Dude on Mar 1, 2011 17:57:47 GMT -5
I mean, Cena's rap was "You talk about loving the fans, I'm here every week to show it". It's not about loving fans, it's about ownership. One wanted to go into Hollywood as his own persona, instead of one controlled by another, while the other is perfectly fine being controlled by said person while doing whatever said person tells him to do, like go on interview talk programs and talk about the Rock leaving in order to legitimately try at an Oscar. Both are entertainers, you don't "leave" fans, fans come to you, that's the entire point. I don't have the Rock coming into my living room to cut a promo, I watch him from my living room cut a promo from his living room. Cena the character is repulsive, and entirely based on the popularity of the Rock character's attitude, but worse because Cena the person is not as good an entertainer. If Cena left to try and pursue a movie career, I wouldn't miss him, and I wouldn't follow him. I have regrettably followed the Rock in some of his train wreck movies, and mildly enjoyed some of his others, but I followed him because I saw his talent at entertaining while he was on the show. There's a difference between what Cena is saying and why people are upset at the Rock. People aren't upset at the Rock for leaving, fans are upset because the Rock was so good that no one after him made the fans forget about him. Cena couldn't make people forget about the Rock, all Cena can do is be compared to what the Rock was, and in that comparison he'll fail forever. THANK YOU!
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Post by psychokiller on Mar 1, 2011 18:16:05 GMT -5
The Rock will always be one of my favorites ever (especially as a heel), but he did come across as a bit hypocritical in my opinion. Saying he loves the WWE & the fans and he's not even at the arena. That promo was probably taped a week ago, I extremely doubt it was a live promo. There's not even any excuse this time though, because he's part of the storyline mix now until Wrestlemania, yet he can't even show up to the arena? The crowd was extremely disapointed last night obviously that he couldn't even be there. It's definetely not because he's filming a movie at the moment, because he admitted he starts filming something right after Wrestlemania is done and probably won't be seen again for a long while. I think The Rock needs to be more careful with what he says before he speaks, because so many people take it the wrong way like when he said he's never going to leave, when he obviously will again.
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Post by wcw on Mar 1, 2011 19:00:34 GMT -5
Come on now, AT MOST we are going to get a Rock Bottom or a People's Elbow. Probably onto Miz, right before Cena finishes him off with the AA. Maybe they surprise us and it's on Cena, and Rock leaves as a heel. Either way, it is in NO WAY going to be Cena VERSUS Rock. The Miz is the Champion, his match with Cena is set IN STONE. Exactly Cena has an opponent at Mania and its not the Rock. This feud needs a payoff and I doubt they would have such a huge match at Backlash. Rock vs Cena might not happen but they are building to it as if it is. It is a fun feud but it just makes no sense as to where it is going.
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Post by vinnie245 on Mar 1, 2011 20:06:37 GMT -5
What makes it work is that both have valid points, but Rock doesn't actually have to be there to love the fans. He still puts himself out there for his fans to see him. It's just that the Rock isn't a wrestler anymore. Cena still is. Cena's primary source of income depends on him being there week after week. Rock's primary money source is cranking out a movie every few months. Rock's time has come and gone, wrestling-wise. And let's be honest. If Rock were in the WWE week in and week out for the past 7 years, Cena would be the #2 guy instead of #1. +100
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Post by Red Lion on Mar 1, 2011 23:48:02 GMT -5
Does Cena even have a point to make? Cena is a wrestler contracted to WWE. Of course he's there every week. Rock ain't a wrestler anymore. Why does he HAVE to show up to prove he loves the fans? The man has a completely different life now. Why should he put that one on hold to come back to his old one to show he still loves us? It's not fair to him. He does when the Rock says he's back and never going to leave...and then he's not there for the next two weeks. *sigh* The Rock never said that. I'm seriously thinking of making something along those lines as my sig somehow.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Mar 2, 2011 0:35:56 GMT -5
The very fact that he was 'via satellite' proved Cena's point. I LOVE The Rock, but if you are going to come back... come back. Fobbing us off with a via-satellite promo kind of proves that he hasn't got time for us. How many other guys have done "via satellite" promos? I mean when HHH or whoever does a via satellite promo does every scream "OH HE'S NOT THERE HE OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T CARE!" As I said I'm pretty damn sure WWE decided that Rock SHOULD do that promo via satellite, they are keeping Cena and Rock away from each other physically. During his first promo, Cena didn't know Rock was going to be there, or what he was going to say. If Rock was hanging backstage all night last night MORE people would scratch their heads why they didn't face off. Rock not being there is making the storyline work for WWE teasing the inevitable face to face.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 2, 2011 0:39:40 GMT -5
The very fact that he was 'via satellite' proved Cena's point. I LOVE The Rock, but if you are going to come back... come back. Fobbing us off with a via-satellite promo kind of proves that he hasn't got time for us. How many other guys have done "via satellite" promos? I'm pretty sure Cena did one when he was injured after the Barrett house-show match.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 2, 2011 10:19:48 GMT -5
Kayfabe-wise, I agree with the Rock (character)'s viewpoint that he's not obliged to stay in WWE forever, but not so much the idea that he's making Hollywood movies to "break down doors" for other wrestlers. It's obviously a personal goal, not a crusade.
All three guys here just have big heads.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 10:41:40 GMT -5
He does when the Rock says he's back and never going to leave...and then he's not there for the next two weeks. *sigh* The Rock never said that. I believe he did actually. He said he's never going away again.
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