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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on May 17, 2011 10:20:53 GMT -5
I've always thought the idea that ratings are based one just one person on the roster in this era is so outdated, and I don't understand why WWE goes with this idea, and the Internet perpetuates it, even though there's really no base to it at all anymore.
The hyper-analyzation over 15-minute segments to justify the push of a wrestler I like or don't like....just never bought into it.
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Post by King Boo on May 17, 2011 11:15:04 GMT -5
I've always thought the idea that ratings are based one just one person on the roster in this era is so outdated, and I don't understand why WWE goes with this idea, and the Internet perpetuates it, even though there's really no base to it at all anymore. The hyper-analyzation over 15-minute segments to justify the push of a wrestler I like or don't like....just never bought into it. So how do you know, then? On one hand, people are saying "each time Orton is the champ, the ratings decline." They get told by the other hand that you can't make a sweeping generalization for a whole show on one (arguably, the most important) person and to really know you'd have to break down the show by segment. Then we're saying to do so over a wrestler we do or don't like to justify our stance is hyper-analyzing it. So...how do you pin-point the problem then, if saying the main star of the show is the issue is an antiquated method but breaking it down to see is going too far? Not trying to be difficult, I'm just curious now.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 17, 2011 11:18:30 GMT -5
Eh it's the B show ( it always has been, even when it's been leaps and bounds better than Raw), on a channel not everyone gets, on a Friday night; Orton or Christian either one isn't gonna affect ratings ALL that much.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 17, 2011 14:26:20 GMT -5
I don't care how illogical it is. Blaming Orton for this is fun.
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Post by B.B.M on May 17, 2011 14:32:40 GMT -5
I don't care how illogical it is. Blaming Orton for this is fun. That's why Orton was to blame, for my bus being late.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on May 17, 2011 14:33:39 GMT -5
So how do you know, then? On one hand, people are saying "each time Orton is the champ, the ratings decline." They get told by the other hand that you can't make a sweeping generalization for a whole show on one (arguably, the most important) person and to really know you'd have to break down the show by segment. Then we're saying to do so over a wrestler we do or don't like to justify our stance is hyper-analyzing it. So...how do you pin-point the problem then, if saying the main star of the show is the issue is an antiquated method but breaking it down to see is going too far? Not trying to be difficult, I'm just curious now. I don't think the problem is one person. Randy as champion causing the ratings to drop is symptomatic of a larger problem within the WWE product. My honest opinion is that it CAN'T be pinpointed, and it certainly can't be blamed on just one member of the roster, even if WWE Creative tells us he's "The Guy". I'm doubtful of the idea of most people people tuning into WWE these days just to watch ONE GUY, save for John Cena. If that were REALLY the case, they would've experimented with moving him to Smackdown for the draft to give that show a bump in the ratings, and even that may not have even worked. I don't care how illogical it is. Blaming Orton for this is fun. And than there's that...
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 17, 2011 14:35:40 GMT -5
I don't care how illogical it is. Blaming Orton for this is fun. That's why Orton was to blame, for my bus being late. I wholeheartedly endorse blaming Randy Orton for everything, just for amusement's sake.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on May 17, 2011 14:37:58 GMT -5
I blame Orton for the newspaper not being delivered this morning. I told him numerous times to get the papers if he had to.
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on May 17, 2011 14:42:00 GMT -5
Even if you're all for Orton and don't think he has anything to do with the ratings, it's asinine to deny that a portion of the boards last week blamed the ratings on Christian being the champ. I don't think it has anything to do with who the champ is, I just think Smackdown is in a slump.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on May 17, 2011 15:13:43 GMT -5
I don't see it as being purely Orton's fault. It just that once again they really have no other "top guys" on the brand as it were, due to the draft.
I love Christian, but he won't be in the main event for long I don't think. It pains me to type it, but I reckon its true. Then there's the prospect of Orton feuding with either Sheamus, Henry or maybe Rhodes. Sure it would be nice to see someone new pushed to challenge for the belt, but I don't think it'll help in terms of ratings or interest sadly, unless one of them is really built up, and swiftly.
Time will tell I guess. I'm not ready to blame anyone for a low rating just yet.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 17, 2011 16:39:05 GMT -5
Even if you're all for Orton and don't think he has anything to do with the ratings, it's asinine to deny that a portion of the boards last week blamed the ratings on Christian being the champ. I don't think it has anything to do with who the champ is, I just think Smackdown is in a slump. But only board members who were Nielsen families would have ANY effect on the ratings one way or another. No one's denied the board outcry; but that has little to nothing to do with a ratings increase or drop.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on May 17, 2011 16:56:31 GMT -5
Wait, wasn't there a playoff game on Friday? This! but but, HE PINNED CHRISTIAN! No seriously, this thread doesn't consider lots of factors, like mysterio or show are no longer in SD!, but why make some deep analysis when you can just blame the new internet whipping boy?
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Post by BigWill on May 17, 2011 17:08:43 GMT -5
but but, HE PINNED CHRISTIAN! No seriously, this thread doesn't consider lots of factors, like mysterio or show are no longer in SD!, but why make some deep analysis when you can just blame the new internet whipping boy? New???
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 17, 2011 17:46:24 GMT -5
I've always thought the idea that ratings are based one just one person on the roster in this era is so outdated, and I don't understand why WWE goes with this idea, and the Internet perpetuates it, even though there's really no base to it at all anymore. When Cena was out injured back in fall '08 and the top angle on RAW became Jericho vs. Michaels, ratings plummeted. The night after Cena returned and won the title at Survivor Series, ratings shot back up and remained consistently higher. There ARE, unquestionably, performers in WWE who are popular enough that they will bring in additional viewers. From the looks of things, Orton isn't one of them.
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Post by Junkenstein on May 17, 2011 17:54:22 GMT -5
I think the problem is they've focused the whole company around Cena that at this point no one else on the roster can carry a show by themselves. It's not like an Austin/Rock situation, where one of them could go away while the other carries the company. And I think that is simply because Orton doesn't have that charismatic, larger than life factor, despite the reactions he gets.
Honestly I think only naked Maryse could carry Smackdown at the point. They should try that for a while.
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Post by bob on May 17, 2011 17:55:59 GMT -5
To be fair they were up againat the NBA playoffs. While I don't watch them I know that it is much more popular then wrestling at the moment
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 17:59:37 GMT -5
I'd say it's a mix of factors. Orton has never been able to draw ratings, but things like the NBA whatever and the finale of that Superman show everyone stopped watching five years ago didn't help. It'll be telling if ratings go back up any next week, though given Orton's history it wouldn't surprise me if they hover around the same area.
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Post by icemansiva on May 17, 2011 18:15:13 GMT -5
or people saw Christian was still main eventing and turned off? I love how last week was not Christian's fault and yet this is all Orton's fault, despite the same two people being involved. Funny how some wrestlers are immune to criticism, isn't it? no. del/rio christian was the focal point during the wm build and sd did decent ratings during feb and march.
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