Gimme that torch back! You don't deserve it!

[Burst]

For all of the Youth Movement that seemed to be taking place last year, it sure as hell seems from how the year's gone so far that the WWE pulled a company-wide "They're not getting over fast enough, f*** 'em, let's cut them off at the knees" on practically everybody that's not one of the usual suspects.

Let's see...

- Nexus went from looking as damn strong as the nWo to being repeatedly jobbed out and turning into a dead horse that was first beaten and then had revive cast on it, was killed again, and is currently being beaten yet again

- The Hart Dynasty went from a potential cornerstone of a tag division, alongside a returned Hitman, to the usual broken-up-and-sent-to-superstars-out-of-sight-out-of-mind

- Dolph Ziggler was screwed over for the umpteenth time in his career and had his gimmick completely neutered, AFTER having been made to look like he didn't remotely deserve to be anywhere near the main event scene after that debacle with Edge

- John Morrison keeps blowing the house away in every PPV main event he's given, yet still keeps having that carrot yanked away

- ARGUABLE The Miz is never made to look credible throughout his title reign and is repeatedly booked to look like a fluke, a chump, and then drops it to Cena, who acts like not having had a title for a little less than a year is like not having had it for like a DECADE

- DEFINITELY ARGUABLE The rookies who actually got over in NXT like Kaval and Derrick Bateman being either buried or not seen on TV period in favor of who they think we'll like... Or still not seen on TV period, like Johnny Curtis

- Attitude to Ruthless Aggression era faces being brought back in as a short-term fix to a long-term problem, relying entirely too heavily on nostalgia pops, something that should've stayed a TNA problem

- NOT REMOTELY ARGUABLE If you've read the Smackdown spoilers you know what this one is.

So much for passing any sort of torch. If the WWE is that bound and determined to stubbornly cling to that status quo until Cena and Orton fall apart at the seams, then they can have it. I'm done watching entire episodes. If anything extraordinary happens, I can YouTube it. They're not getting my support.

I realize some of my points are varying in their reasonableness vs. what could be interpreted as whining. Really, it's a heat of the moment sort of thing; I'll probably be embarrassed of this topic when I wake up tomorrow morning.

[elryc]

I really want to say something to this, but given my recent opinions on WWE I feel like saying anything would be like what they've been doing to Nexus. So I'll just nod instead.

[Jiren]

That is why I stopped watching in 2009

I just got bored, And I've been a fan Since WrestleMania VI and have NEVER stopped (Even in the dreaded 95)

[ejt713]

The only man who can save us is...
DERICK BATEMAN: to return from injury, run down to the ring and beat the crap out of (ohhhh lets go with........)

i mean it will probs be primo on superstars BUT

it should be at least R Truth - man i hate that guy... speaking of R Truth, he is getting the push in front of other guys = exactly what has been said ^^^^^

[Cronant]

I'd take the Miz off that list. He's seriously being groomed as well as a cheap heel can.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

May 3, 2011 22:19:51 GMT -5 Cronant said:

I'd take the Miz off that list. He's seriously being groomed as well as a cheap heel can.

I don't agree with you often, but this is true. Miz really hasn't been f***ed around with too much. I don't LOVE that he lost the title to Cena, but it's something I can live with, and I don't think it hurts Miz that much in the long run.

[Cronant]

I'm pretty sure Miz is their next big face, and they're just figuring when and how to do it.

And losing the title was a step in that direction.

[Beets by Schrute]

You're forgetting Zack Ryder. A man who has gone to all lengths to get the fans behind him, and has, but is still stuck on the bottom of the totem pole.

[Deleted]

Pretty much my thoughts, so I too will just nod.

[forgottensinpwf]

I guess they finally got the glass ceiling fixed.

[percymania]

Phenomenal topic.

[Paco]

I don't wanna hear anymore WWE propaganda about WCW not giving it's talent opportunity while WWE is a haven where talent is nurtured.

[Kevin Hamilton]

The Miz has kicked out of the Attitude Adjustment. Twice.

He ain't hurting at all.

[elryc]

May 3, 2011 22:33:18 GMT -5 Paco said:

I don't wanna hear anymore WWE propaganda about WCW not giving it's talent opportunity while WWE is a haven where talent is nurtured.

Woah, time warp.

[saneiac]

May 3, 2011 22:12:02 GMT -5 Burst said:

- If you've read the Smackdown spoilers you know what this one is.

I just read them. I am genuinely sick to my stomach right now.

[Citizen Zero]

May 3, 2011 22:33:18 GMT -5 Paco said:

I don't wanna hear anymore WWE propaganda about WCW not giving it's talent opportunity while WWE is a haven where talent is nurtured.

It was kind of true...11 years ago. Not so much now.

[Paco]

When WWE bought WCW they absorbed all it's powers including celebrity worship, belts as props, failure of every big angle (Invasion, nWo, etc.) and the magical glass ceiling.

Sell it back, Vince! There's some bad mojo in there!

[Deleted]

May 3, 2011 22:12:02 GMT -5 Burst said:

- The rookies who actually got over in NXT like Kaval and Derrick Bateman being either buried or not seen on TV period in favor of who they think we'll like... Or still not seen on TV period, like Johnny Curtis

- If you've read the Smackdown spoilers you know what this one is.

I agree with everything you said except for these two points. The whole point of that is that they're not following through with the youth movement that we all thought was coming, but with the first one you're just saying they're not pushing the guys we want. It's not Kaval or Bateman (Who I love), but Brodus Clay and Alex Riley. They're still building those kids by having them in big time stories, but because they're not IWC darlings the WWE is messing up. At least they're working on SOMEBODY.

And for the second point, the Smackdown thing makes me want to cry, but Christian as World Champion isn't exactly showing they're going in a more youthful direction. If anything having him win the title was going in the opposite direction. Christian as champion is an opportunity to make him a bigger star, but he's the oldest main event talent on Smackdown. I understand the idea of a making a bigger star, but Christian as champion isn't a long-term solution you're looking for.

[Burst]

May 3, 2011 22:43:40 GMT -5 @notoriousnd22 said:

I agree with everything you said except for these two points. The whole point of that is that they're not following through with the youth movement that we all thought was coming, but with the first one you're just saying they're not pushing the guys we want. It's not Kaval or Bateman (Who I love), but Brodus Clay and Alex Riley. They're still building those kids by having them in big time stories, but because they're not IWC darlings the WWE is messing up. At least they're working on SOMEBODY.

And for the second point, the Smackdown thing makes me want to cry, but Christian as World Champion isn't exactly showing they're going in a more youthful direction. If anything having him win the title was going in the opposite direction. Christian as champion is an opportunity to make him a bigger star, but he's the oldest main event talent on Smackdown. I understand the idea of a making a bigger star, but Christian as champion isn't a long-term solution you're looking for.

I concede your point to both of those. With the NXT thing, I was thinking more about how the fan votes were allegedly shoot, but it really could've been about how for whatever reason whomever won the NXT season still somehow was less important than the runner up or not even the runner-up, but I guess that's reality shows in general. Who all remembers Ruben Stoddard?

But at the same time, even though Alex Riley and Brodus Clay are getting TV time, they're not exactly being treated with awe and respect. I can't even remotely begin to count how many finishers Riley has eaten over the past few months, and Big Brodus, as much as I want to like the big lunk, seemingly the most memorable thing he's done lately is his ghastly head wound from Extreme Rules.

Also, I guess in the heat of the moment I wound up kind of equating the youth movement with a general changing of the guard. And yes,

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}Christian isn't exactly a spring chicken, but he's still a fresh enough face in the main event scene that it felt like such. It's still indicative IMO of the WWE's complete inability to trust anyone else that's not outside the status quo. But that's just me, running on emotions and belated coffee.

[Death by Pickles!]

May 3, 2011 22:12:02 GMT -5 Burst said:

- The rookies who actually got over in NXT like Kaval and Derrick Bateman being either buried or not seen on TV period in favor of who they think we'll like... Or still not seen on TV period, like Johnny Curtis

See; you had me until right here. You had legit issues, but this one just sounds like whining. As the poster above me said, they are implanting some rookies (Clay, Riley) into storylines, but since they're not "our" favorites, the WWE's f***ing up. That's not fair. You can't get mad when they're not putting these guys in the spotlight, then complain when they do it, but not for the IWC darlings.