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Post by Pasadena Sandwich on Jul 22, 2011 18:31:06 GMT -5
Mason Ryan, Big Zeke...
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Post by cool guy on Jul 22, 2011 18:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 22, 2011 18:34:22 GMT -5
You know Funaki was on the juice? So being big and muscular doesn't always equal=roid beast.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jul 22, 2011 18:35:39 GMT -5
I think you'll find the "just look at them" accusation doesn't really hold up.
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Post by donny on Jul 22, 2011 18:37:59 GMT -5
Let's not forget to mention obvious gas heads like Sin Cara....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 18:38:46 GMT -5
Nash will get to the bottom of this, as soon as he finds his SEC Championship ring.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 18:44:17 GMT -5
Oh god.
Yes, every big muscular guy in the world is on the juice. Hard work is just a myth.
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Post by molson5 on Jul 22, 2011 18:47:01 GMT -5
And as anyone who follows baseball knows, the guys most likely to get caught using 'roids are middle relievers and utility players. Guys on the fringe, guys without big physiques, but guys for whom bouncing back from injury a little faster or increasing bat speed just a bit might make the difference between MLB employment and working at the home depot.
Steroids can benefit anyone. Big or small, skinny or massive. They don't turn you into Mason Ryan, but you can benefit.
It is possible to build muscle, even a lot of it, without using any illegal substances. There were guys with huge physiques before steroids were even invented. And now, with more knowledge about nutrition, weight training, and supplements, all kinds of results are possible if you put the work in (and especially if you have the right genetics.)
A cross-section of the WWE roster is no doubt on steroids/hgh. Some divas, some skinny cruiserweights, some average looking guys, and some of the monsters. The idea that Zeke/Mason Ryan are definitely on roids, and nobody smaller then them possibly could be is a fiction that really should have died out a long time ago. The general public, or most of them, do understand this stuff a little bit better now.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 22, 2011 18:51:23 GMT -5
And as anyone who follows baseball knows, the guys most likely to get caught using 'roids are middle relievers and utility players. Guys on the fringe, guys without big physiques, but guys for whom bouncing back from injury a little faster or increasing bat speed just a bit might make the difference between MLB employment and working at the home depot. Steroids can benefit anyone. Big or small, skinny or massive. They don't turn you into Mason Ryan, but you can benefit. It is possible to build muscle, even a lot of it, without using any illegal substances. There were guys with huge physiques before steroids were even invented. And now, with more knowledge about nutrition, weight training, and supplements, all kinds of results are possible if you put the work in (and especially if you have the right genetics.) A cross-section of the WWE roster is no doubt on steroids/hgh. Some divas, some skinny cruiserweights, some average looking guys, and some of the monsters. The idea that Zeke/Mason Ryan are definitely on roids, and nobody smaller then them possibly could be is a fiction that really should have died out a long time ago. The general public, or most of them, do understand this stuff a little bit better now. Dude, can you save the little speech on your computer and post it every time this topic comes up? Somebody always tries to make this point, but yours is probably the best explaination of it I've seen yet. Seriously, good job man |
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Post by potpie on Jul 22, 2011 19:00:19 GMT -5
Sonjay Dutt's on 'roids [/Nash]
Seriously, whether or not these guys are on 'roids, I think it affects fans' opinions of them when guys show up "bigger than a house." I suppose you could blame this train of thought on baseball, where everyone seems to be juicing. I think we're missing the real issue though- should guys be allowed to be so big that it puts them at risk for injuries? True, you can be "genetically gifted", but a skeletal frame can only support so much weight, and piling it on naturally or by cheating, it doesn't really matter. Eventually, stress fractures, muscle tears, overall pain from lifting (weights or people) over and over is not good for anybody's health long term. We can all cite or assume examples of wrestlers, I'm sure.
In school I studied a condition called "Bigorexia". It's essentially when you cannot stop working out and weight lifting because you believe you look puny, when in fact, you're huge. I wonder how many wrestlers have/had this because the "hoss" tends to get hired without any wrestling ability whatsoever. To me, I can see a distinct difference between someone who has a naturally athletic build and someone who is (at the very least) hitting the Creatine. It's not smarking in my case, it's a general concern for their well-being. What happens when they retire? The NFL provides $ and counseling to retirees to help them revert back to normal eating (the obesity rate is ridiculous after retirement). US gymnastics recently started a similar program to combat eating disorders. You know Vince has the $ to offer that to those who'd want it, but he won't, because he sees nothing wrong with "hossing" up guys and throwing them out like kleenex.
...Okay, I'll stop now. *pant*
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Post by donny on Jul 22, 2011 19:03:12 GMT -5
And as anyone who follows baseball knows, the guys most likely to get caught using 'roids are middle relievers and utility players. Guys on the fringe, guys without big physiques, but guys for whom bouncing back from injury a little faster or increasing bat speed just a bit might make the difference between MLB employment and working at the home depot. Steroids can benefit anyone. Big or small, skinny or massive. They don't turn you into Mason Ryan, but you can benefit. It is possible to build muscle, even a lot of it, without using any illegal substances. There were guys with huge physiques before steroids were even invented. And now, with more knowledge about nutrition, weight training, and supplements, all kinds of results are possible if you put the work in (and especially if you have the right genetics.) A cross-section of the WWE roster is no doubt on steroids/hgh. Some divas, some skinny cruiserweights, some average looking guys, and some of the monsters. The idea that Zeke/Mason Ryan are definitely on roids, and nobody smaller then them possibly could be is a fiction that really should have died out a long time ago. The general public, or most of them, do understand this stuff a little bit better now. Dude, can you save the little speech on your computer and post it every time this topic comes up? Somebody always tries to make this point, but yours is probably the best explaination of it I've seen yet. Seriously, good job man I concur. I wanted to say the same thing but I couldn't have said it as eloquently. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 22, 2011 19:08:23 GMT -5
Sure, wrestlers are known for doing things naturally, after all.
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Post by lewis1711 on Jul 22, 2011 19:08:46 GMT -5
Oh god. Yes, every big muscular guy in the world is on the juice. Hard work is just a myth. Hardwork can only take you so far - I'd say the rest of it is genetics (and/or drugs lol). Or do you seriously think Ezekiel Jackson works out twice as hard in the gym as Sheamus (who is already very muscular)? |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jul 22, 2011 19:09:15 GMT -5
I mean, it may not be fair to assume the big muscled up freaks are on roids....but people have these notions for a reason.....as Hurrican Helms once said....just sayin'/
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 22, 2011 19:13:54 GMT -5
So the theory is that because more "little" guys have been caught using, that means that the giant hosses are NOT on steroids?
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Post by cool guy on Jul 22, 2011 19:14:49 GMT -5
So the theory is that because more "little" guys have been caught using, that means that the giant hosses are NOT on steroids? No, the theory is that you shouldn't run on a basis of "guilty until proven innocent" when it comes to this sort of thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 19:16:21 GMT -5
Oh god. Yes, every big muscular guy in the world is on the juice. Hard work is just a myth. Hardwork can only take you so far - I'd say the rest of it is genetics (and/or drugs lol). Or do you seriously think Ezekiel Jackson works out twice as hard in the gym as Sheamus (who is already very muscular)? There are different ways to work out. I don't know Zeke's entire life story, but I'm betting being a professional wrestler wasn't his life's dream, and he was planning on being a body builder or a strong man competitor. He's trained to be a big muscular guy with no calisthenics or endurance work. Sheamus however probably doesn't focus exclusively on being as powerful and muscular as possible, focusing more on in-ring conditioning. Two guys can spend all day in the gym every day, but if they do different things they're not going to look the same. |
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jul 22, 2011 19:20:24 GMT -5
I think you'll find the "just look at them" accusation doesn't really hold up.  |
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Post by molson5 on Jul 22, 2011 19:20:29 GMT -5
So the theory is that because more "little" guys have been caught using, that means that the giant hosses are NOT on steroids? No, it just means that some little guys are on them and some aren't, and some big guys are on them and some aren't. Little guys can benefit from steroids/hgh, and big guys don't necessarily need them to get big. |
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Post by Tim on Jul 22, 2011 19:26:36 GMT -5
Somebody on one of these boards once tried to claim that anyone who had a larger physique than CM Punk (just the example he used) was likely on steroids.
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