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Post by generationxero on Jun 29, 2011 9:20:36 GMT -5
Source: PWInsider.com
It is being reported that CM Punk's RAW shoot was NOT scripted and he was given full creative control improvise the whole speech. WWE Officials told him to go out and explain why he was leaving the company and why he wanted to leave with the WWE Championship and should his comments go too far they would cut his microphone and pull the plug on the segment. Punk's comments towards Triple H and John Laurinaitis were strictly a shoot according to sources.
CM Punk is still expected to leave WWE following the Money In The Bank Pay-Per-View on July 17th.
Mod Note: Since the last thread went to 30 and there still seems to be interest I'm turning this thread into the discussion thread.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jun 29, 2011 9:26:30 GMT -5
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Post by baresolid on Jun 29, 2011 9:28:44 GMT -5
I don't buy this story. At all. WWE is a professional organization. There's no way they would let him say 'whatever he wanted' without prior approval. I am saying that this whole story has been fabricated.
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Post by jrcz on Jun 29, 2011 9:28:48 GMT -5
I knew it!
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 29, 2011 9:31:08 GMT -5
Uh huh.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jun 29, 2011 9:31:31 GMT -5
If it wasn't scripted, I am sure the talking points were clearly understood before he went out.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jun 29, 2011 9:34:05 GMT -5
I believe it, but all's fair in love, war and wrestling promos. I'm sure they were all told worse and probably let it roll off their back because it's wrestling.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jun 29, 2011 9:35:12 GMT -5
No way a control-freak like Vince'd let someone like Punk go out there and say whatever the hell he wanted.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Jun 29, 2011 9:37:13 GMT -5
I posted this story in the main CM Punk Shoot thread, and had a little commentary on it, but I will reiterate my "nay." As someone else already said in this thread, there is near zero chance that Vince would let a controversial (to him) guy like CM Punk have a live mic to say whatever he wants.
He knows CM Punk is amazing on the mic, and I'm sure Vince knew that Punk was going to hit it out of the park. I bet the deal was that Punk ran some talking points by the office for something very different and though uncomfortable with some of it, Vince let him do it and said he would cut it off when Punk got to a certain topic (the Be a Star sponsorship.)
They're running with it as an angle, and I highly doubt they would do that if Punk had pressed too many of their buttons without clearing it first. Even with fellow wrestlers and other media outlets praising Punk's promo, Vince would not run with something unless he, or his office was at least somewhat aware of it.
I love Punk and agree with a lot that he said. But I think some people want to believe that Punk's promo was a real shoot, so they can imagine that Punk is merely giving a big "screw you" to the company when in fact I think Punk is trying to do something a lot more complex and interesting by making it uncertain whether or not it was a shoot or work.
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Post by baresolid on Jun 29, 2011 9:38:22 GMT -5
All the dirt sheets ever talk about is how Vince is obsessive about micromanaging every aspect of his television shows, particularly Raw. Thus, this makes absolutely NO sense.
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Post by Tony Stark on Jun 29, 2011 9:38:26 GMT -5
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jun 29, 2011 9:39:35 GMT -5
Even if Punk's shoot was completely unscripted, trust he only said as much as he needed; and if, for some reason, he was at risk of saying more, they would have cut him off much earlier. Also, the gesturing before they cut the show off, when they very well could have cut the feed earlier, sort of adds to the fact that it was mostly, at least, planned out beforehand.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jun 29, 2011 9:42:47 GMT -5
I can't believe people actually think this is a shoot. Yeah, that's why Austin other WWE guys were praising it via Twitter.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Jun 29, 2011 9:43:17 GMT -5
Even if Punk's shoot was completely unscripted, trust he only said as much as he needed; and if, for some reason, he was at risk of saying more, they would have cut him off much earlier. Also, the gesturing before they cut the show off, when they very well could have cut the feed earlier, sort of adds to the fact that it was mostly, at least, planned out beforehand. Yes. His mimework, especially when the mic was cut off--why would you keep trying to talk into a mic that you realize has been cut off?-- confirms this as somewhat planned out for me as well. His exaggerated motions were pure "bitter heel." |
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Post by dlg3000 on Jun 29, 2011 9:48:14 GMT -5
No way a control-freak like Vince'd let someone like Punk go out there and say whatever the hell he wanted. |
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jun 29, 2011 9:49:36 GMT -5
Sometimes I love the dirt sheets. A good laugh to start my day is always a great thing.  |
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Post by willywonka666 on Jun 29, 2011 9:50:03 GMT -5
Back in the day wasn't Vince a little cooler about improvisation? You can't tell me that EVER SINGLE WORD Roddy Piper ever uttered was scripted. Talking points fine, but not every word. So I can see this and I didn't even see the segment.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jun 29, 2011 9:51:50 GMT -5
Back in the day wasn't Vince a little cooler about improvisation? You can't tell me that EVER SINGLE WORD Roddy Piper ever uttered was scripted. Talking points fine, but not every word. So I can see this and I didn't even see the segment. That was then, things are alot different now. |
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Post by baresolid on Jun 29, 2011 9:53:59 GMT -5
Back in the day wasn't Vince a little cooler about improvisation? You can't tell me that EVER SINGLE WORD Roddy Piper ever uttered was scripted. Talking points fine, but not every word. So I can see this and I didn't even see the segment. Professional wrestling has changed a lot since then. Most promos back in the day were not 'scripted', merely improvised. That was just how it was done, until quite recently, perhaps in the last twelve years or so. Now, I get the impression that WWE is produced like any slick television programme, with the 'run-sheet' replaced by a script which calls almost eveyry spot. I imagine that the only improvised portions of the show occur during matches, where all the key spots are nevertheless laid out. |
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Post by willywonka666 on Jun 29, 2011 9:56:58 GMT -5
Back in the day wasn't Vince a little cooler about improvisation? You can't tell me that EVER SINGLE WORD Roddy Piper ever uttered was scripted. Talking points fine, but not every word. So I can see this and I didn't even see the segment. Professional wrestling has changed a lot since then. Most promos back in the day were not 'scripted', merely improvised. That was just how it was done, until quite recently, perhaps in the last twelve years or so. Now, I get the impression that WWE is produced like any slick television programme, with the 'run-sheet' replaced by a script which calls almost eveyry spot. I imagine that the only improvised portions of the show occur during matches, where all the key spots are nevertheless laid out. Yea, but Vince was in charge back then too. I just wonder what goes on in his head |
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