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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jul 1, 2011 3:17:35 GMT -5
So, it's just drugs then? What a monumental waste of time and taxpayers money. Unbelievable. Oh yeah, total waste. Sure, why bother with drug laws at all? Huge waste of time. I totally agree. These arbitrary laws are a waste of time. The government shouldn't be concerned with what I put into my own body. Tax it, regulate it and stop using my money on antiquated, arbitrary laws. Sorry, hope that isn't too political.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jul 1, 2011 8:57:59 GMT -5
Oh yeah, total waste. Sure, why bother with drug laws at all? Huge waste of time. I totally agree. These arbitrary laws are a waste of time. The government shouldn't be concerned with what I put into my own body. Tax it, regulate it and stop using my money on antiquated, arbitrary laws. Sorry, hope that isn't too political. So people doping up, mistripping and potentially doing lethal stuff to others are noone's business but their own? Uh-huh.
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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jul 1, 2011 13:51:42 GMT -5
I totally agree. These arbitrary laws are a waste of time. The government shouldn't be concerned with what I put into my own body. Tax it, regulate it and stop using my money on antiquated, arbitrary laws. Sorry, hope that isn't too political. So people doping up, mistripping and potentially doing lethal stuff to others are noone's business but their own? Uh-huh. No, it isn't. I'm not condoning him doing it whilst employed but he should be free to put whatever his wants into his own body. Drug laws are antiquated and incredibly arbitrary. I take it you don't hold the same views regarding tobacco and alcohol? Why not? Because it has been arbitrarily decided upon that they are okay but other drugs are not. Once again; tax it, regulate it and watch the economic benefits roll in. Stop wasting my tax money putting people behind bars for indulging in something that only concerns them.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jul 1, 2011 13:54:00 GMT -5
keep the politics out please.
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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jul 1, 2011 13:54:54 GMT -5
K, can do.
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Post by Tony Stark on Jul 1, 2011 14:16:00 GMT -5
So, someone like Jeff Hardy should be able to roll into a job where he is needed to be corpus mentis high as a kite? Yeah, real smart.
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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jul 1, 2011 14:25:57 GMT -5
So, someone like Jeff Hardy should be able to roll into a job where he is needed to be corpus mentis high as a kite? Yeah, real smart. Nope. I already stated that he shouldn't do it whilst he is at work and I have no idea why TNA hasn't fired him. During his own time, however, he should be free to do whatever he wants. Sorry, that should be the end of it. The board has rules and I want to respect that. If you want to discuss it further, I would be more than happy to privately.
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Post by Krimzon on Jul 1, 2011 16:04:14 GMT -5
When somebody is high, they aren't themselves and could possibly be a danger to themselves and/or others. Not only that, but it slowly damages their own body. It's illegal for a reason. Hard drugs are FAR more lethal than tobacco & alcohol.
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Post by chaimwitz on Jul 1, 2011 16:06:30 GMT -5
im surprised the court judge hasnt thrown it out since the prosecution has asked for no less than 5 continuances.
it was entrapment at its finest and they even mighta screwed that up.
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Post by chaimwitz on Jul 1, 2011 16:08:02 GMT -5
So, someone like Jeff Hardy should be able to roll into a job where he is needed to be corpus mentis high as a kite? Yeah, real smart. and the last time weed made someone kill someone was??? i'd rather have him higher than georgia pine over being a coke head from the 80's
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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jul 1, 2011 16:12:54 GMT -5
When somebody is high, they aren't themselves and could possibly be a danger to themselves and/or others. That's fair. I'm not advocating anybody using whilst they are at work. There are plenty who use in their free time and show up to work, sober and on time. What about the people who show up to work hungover or drunk? Should alcohol be made illegal because there are a few people who don't possess personal responsibility? Moot point. That is nobodies concern but their own. No they aren't. Anything in excess will do harm to you. There are far more cases of alcohol-related deaths than any other drug. They're illegal for reasons that I can't go into here.
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Post by Tony Stark on Jul 1, 2011 16:17:27 GMT -5
im surprised the court judge hasnt thrown it out since the prosecution has asked for no less than 5 continuances. it was entrapment at its finest and they even mighta screwed that up. See, this is why I can't deal with most of the guys who defend Hardy. They make asinine comments like he was set up. I'm dropping this topic like a baby.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 16:18:25 GMT -5
So, you're saying that alcohol is on par with something like PCP, heroin or meth? I don't even know where to begin.
Can we just lock this?
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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jul 1, 2011 16:20:23 GMT -5
So, you're saying that alcohol is on par with something like PCP, heroin or meth? I don't even know where to begin. No, I am saying that anything in excess is going to be incredibly bad for you. The inability of people to hold personal responsibility is not an argument for the criminalization of drugs.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jul 1, 2011 16:24:12 GMT -5
Without getting into the politics the facts of the case (As we understand them) are this.
- Somehow, some way, Jeff Hardy is found with far more than what would be considered for "Personal Use" of several Controlled Substances. Whether or not they SHOULD be controlled is a moot point at this juncture, as is whether Jeff should be prosecuted for possession therof. The law as it is interpreted and written at present states that it's illegal.
- If it was believed that Jeff was Entrapped (Which requires abuse of authority and the victim doing something they wouldn't normally do, which given Jeff's behaviour prior and siunce would be an uphill battle to prove.) then I'd also like to believe that the defense would have tried to get the case thrown out, and not simply settled fore these numerous continuances.
Edit: Minor error....carry on
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 16:27:00 GMT -5
So, you're saying that alcohol is on par with something like PCP, heroin or meth? I don't even know where to begin. No, I am saying that anything in excess is going to be incredibly bad for you. The inability of people to hold personal responsibility is not an argument for the criminalization of drugs. The thing with hard drugs is that one hit, is in excess and thus incredibly bad for you. There's no such thing as a safe hit of heroin, or PCP, or meth.
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Post by Zero Orchestra on Jul 1, 2011 16:29:27 GMT -5
No, I am saying that anything in excess is going to be incredibly bad for you. The inability of people to hold personal responsibility is not an argument for the criminalization of drugs. The thing with hard drugs is that one hit, is in excess and thus incredibly bad for you. There's no such thing as a safe hit of heroin, or PCP, or meth. Yes, of course there is. The guy who takes heroin once is doing something that is less damaging than the guy who drinks a litre of vodka every day. Anything in excess is going to be damaging. It's relative.
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 1, 2011 16:29:27 GMT -5
im surprised the court judge hasnt thrown it out since the prosecution has asked for no less than 5 continuances. The defense asked for continuances too, IIRC.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Jul 1, 2011 16:54:06 GMT -5
Without getting into the politics the facts of the case (As we understand them) are this. - Somehow, some way, Jeff Hardy is found with far more than what would be considered for "Personal Use" of several Controlled Substances. Whether or not they SHOULD be controlled is a moot point at this juncture, as is whether Jeff should be prosecuted for possession therof. The law as it is interpreted and written at present states that it's illegal. - If it was believed that Jeff was Entrapped (Which requires abuse of authority and the victim doing something they wouldn't normally do, which given Jeff's behaviour prior and siunce would be an uphill battle to prove.) then I'd also like to believe that the defense would have tried to get the case thrown out, and not simply settled fore these numerous continuances. Edit: Minor error....carry on Yup. The details of the case have never come out, but all we know is that a tip was given to cops and they found the drugs in his home. There are a lot of things about this particular case that are odd, but the fact that he had the drugs in his home was never in dispute. I'm guessing that with the lack of news coming out today and with the upcoming holiday that it will be at least Tuesday before anything is settled. I'm leaning more toward next Monday with the way things have been going.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Jul 3, 2011 6:42:10 GMT -5
Hard drugs are FAR more lethal than tobacco & alcohol. Sometimes I wish this board didn't have the rules it does, so statements like these could be refuted wholeheartedly.
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