kidkamikaze10
Dennis Stamp
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Feb 14, 2012 17:01:13 GMT -5
Never been in the friend zone, put girls there before though and maybe that's why they became distant towards me. I think people over react about how it feels... Having done that to people AND been put there, I think you are underestimating how it feels. Especially when your self-confidence isn't high and your dreams are too big.
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SEAN CARLESS
Hank Scorpio
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Feb 14, 2012 17:03:15 GMT -5
Never been in the friend zone, put girls there before though and maybe that's why they became distant towards me. I think people over react about how it feels... I guarantee you that's not the only reason. I keed.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 14, 2012 17:05:08 GMT -5
Never been in the friend zone, put girls there before though and maybe that's why they became distant towards me. I think people over react about how it feels... Um, no crap. There's a very thin line between wanting something and being disappointed when it doesn't happen, and thinking you're owed something and so being angry it doesn't happen. People seem to enjoy crossing it. This storyline has the potential to get really creepy. Ah well, we already had Lita the evil slut and Vickie Guerrero the evil woman who had the gall to be older than 40, might as well create another way for your audience to embarrass themselves looking like a bunch of cavemen.
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 14, 2012 17:06:09 GMT -5
Not surprised.
While people say Matt Hardy looked bad in the Edge/Lita feud, what they forget is that Matt essentially had bulletproof babyface heat for years afterward. Guy was probably the most consistently over talent that wasn't a main eventer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 17:08:11 GMT -5
Maybe I am downplaying it but I don't know man, life is full of disappointments and things you can't control or change so you just learn to accept them and move on. At least that's what I do.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Feb 14, 2012 17:13:15 GMT -5
That crowd seemed awfully pro-heel, but they hated Eve for what she did. If that's what they were going for, then it came off perfectly.
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Post by perpetualn00b on Feb 14, 2012 17:27:14 GMT -5
Never been in the friend zone, put girls there before though and maybe that's why they became distant towards me. I think people over react about how it feels... Um, no crap. There's a very thin line between wanting something and being disappointed when it doesn't happen, and thinking you're owed something and so being angry it doesn't happen. People seem to enjoy crossing it. This storyline has the potential to get really creepy. Ah well, we already had Lita the evil slut and Vickie Guerrero the evil woman who had the gall to be older than 40, might as well create another way for your audience to embarrass themselves looking like a bunch of cavemen. And, bingo. The reaction to this is honestly knda disheartening.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Feb 14, 2012 17:32:18 GMT -5
I don't know about that, but I do hope WWE's plan was to turn Eve heel, because that's what's going to happen now anyways. She's basically become 2005 era Lita. that's EXACTLY what i thought, i was waiting for a huge "slut!" chant to break out. even tho, y'know she's not, and really didn't do anything wrong perse
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Post by Cela on Feb 14, 2012 17:43:20 GMT -5
Um, no crap. There's a very thin line between wanting something and being disappointed when it doesn't happen, and thinking you're owed something and so being angry it doesn't happen. People seem to enjoy crossing it. This storyline has the potential to get really creepy. Ah well, we already had Lita the evil slut and Vickie Guerrero the evil woman who had the gall to be older than 40, might as well create another way for your audience to embarrass themselves looking like a bunch of cavemen. And, bingo. The reaction to this is honestly knda disheartening. Oh for the love of... Ok, white knighting aside, let's just look at this. You have Zack Ryder, who tries really hard to get a date with Eve, but keeps getting sidetracked by circumstance, aka a large masked dude named Kane. Even after he finally gets a date, Circumstance ruins everything, but damnit he will not give up. And he risks life and limb to protect her. Now sure, Eve is perfectly allowed to turn him down, but her timing was something straight out of the 1980s villain handbook. He was in a bodycast/wheelchair holding roses on national television. The only thing she could have done to make it worse was dunk pigs blood on him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 17:43:29 GMT -5
If the amount of bros I have that are constantly whining on Facebook about being friendzoned..... Eve is going to be pretty hated for a while.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 14, 2012 17:47:15 GMT -5
lost in all this, has John Cena being married ever been mentioned in Kayfabe?
if he's still married, anyway. can't say I'm up on that stuff.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Feb 14, 2012 17:48:40 GMT -5
And, bingo. The reaction to this is honestly knda disheartening. Oh for the love of... Ok, white knighting aside, let's just look at this. You have Zack Ryder, who tries really hard to get a date with Eve, but keeps getting sidetracked by circumstance, aka a large masked dude named Kane. Even after he finally gets a date, Circumstance ruins everything, but damnit he will not give up. And he risks life and limb to protect her. Now sure, Eve is perfectly allowed to turn him down, but her timing was something straight out of the 1980s villain handbook. He was in a bodycast/wheelchair holding roses on national television. The only thing she could have done to make it worse was dunk pigs blood on him. Exactly. She didnt just "out of the blue" reject him. He has broken his back defending her, she knows how he feels, and she waited this long just to tell him she wants to be just friends. Either reel the fish in or let it go, Eve.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Feb 14, 2012 17:52:13 GMT -5
And, bingo. The reaction to this is honestly knda disheartening. Oh for the love of... Ok, white knighting aside, let's just look at this. You have Zack Ryder, who tries really hard to get a date with Eve, but keeps getting sidetracked by circumstance, aka a large masked dude named Kane. Even after he finally gets a date, Circumstance ruins everything, but damnit he will not give up. And he risks life and limb to protect her. Now sure, Eve is perfectly allowed to turn him down, but her timing was something straight out of the 1980s villain handbook. He was in a bodycast/wheelchair holding roses on national television. The only thing she could have done to make it worse was dunk pigs blood on him. Not to mention that she hooked up with his best friend right in front of him! Unless the guy has no soul, no one on Earth is just going to go "Well, there's plenty more fish in the sea! Have fun you two!"
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Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 14, 2012 18:00:45 GMT -5
It's all Zack's fault if you think about it. Throughout history women have flocked to men who can provide and men who offer security. Eve was feeling Zack until he showed that he can't change a tire or save her from danger. Valid point, but it's hard to defend yourself (and your girl) when a giant maniac continuously blindsides you and tries to end your career/life at any chance he can get. Ryder's not that big of a guy (he isn't little by any means), Cena is more zacked than Zack, and has a history of taking down big guys. None of this would have happened if The Big O was watching Zack's back.
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Post by norsisclouds on Feb 14, 2012 18:14:34 GMT -5
I don't see why not. For weeks Zack has been trying to get with her, then she teases a possible relationship, raising his hopes. Then on the day before Valentine's Day, Zack, in neckbrace and wheelchair w/roses, catches her making out with his best broski, breaking his heart. Then to add salt to the wound, she friend-zones him after everything he's went through for the past month. THEN to top that off, he gets wheeled right off the stage. How can anyone not feel sorry for Zack Ryder right now? Exactly. If she never accepted his overtures for a date, or spent so much time with him--which yes is romantic encouragement. She could've been nice without fawning all over him knowing how he feels and letting him try to take her out and buy her dinner etc... She waited too long leading him on--that was the biggest villainy of it. If she came right out and firmly kept saying no about dates/spending time together etc... then Ryder would've had no reason to get his hopes up. I thought they were in a budding relationship too from the way she behaved, and the way they wrote it, it was like she just spat in his face. Besides, heat of the moment or not you don't push yourself onto a guy's best friend like that knowing how he feels, especially if you are ALL friends together. I would expect to talk to the other guy and let them work it out before I did anything... but that's just me. It came off as a bitch move.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 14, 2012 18:17:32 GMT -5
Come on, Zack, have you seen her dancing?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 18:18:24 GMT -5
How is it not obvious that she's in the wrong by waiting until Zack got beat up like, 50 times before rejecting him?
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Post by FailedGimmick on Feb 14, 2012 18:19:04 GMT -5
lost in all this, has John Cena being married ever been mentioned in Kayfabe? if he's still married, anyway. can't say I'm up on that stuff. At RAW in Boston in July, he addressed his wife during commercial, and mentioned it was either their anniversary, or it was fast approaching.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 14, 2012 18:23:16 GMT -5
And, bingo. The reaction to this is honestly knda disheartening. Oh for the love of... Ok, white knighting aside, let's just look at this. You have Zack Ryder, who tries really hard to get a date with Eve, but keeps getting sidetracked by circumstance, aka a large masked dude named Kane. Even after he finally gets a date, Circumstance ruins everything, but damnit he will not give up. And he risks life and limb to protect her. Now sure, Eve is perfectly allowed to turn him down, but her timing was something straight out of the 1980s villain handbook. He was in a bodycast/wheelchair holding roses on national television. The only thing she could have done to make it worse was dunk pigs blood on him. I don't know what "white knighting" means, but you're kind of demonstrating my exact point, here. What's creepy is the implication that if Zack does enough for Eve... risking life and limb, protecting her, not giving up... then she has some sort of obligation to reciprocate his attraction to her. If she doesn't, if she turns him down, then she must just be cold-hearted and evil. Boo! I mean, this is a wrestling storyline, so it'll probably turn out that she's actually a vampire with mind-control powers who's really Kane's long-lost twin sister, or something. But in real life, this empathy actually comes from guys who have gone through that exact thought process, "I did so much for youuuuu I hate you for just thinking of me as a friend! How dare you have your own preferences and desires! I mean, you have been NICE to me! In my mind, that is as good as you handing me a signed affidavit pledging that your feelings for me are romantic!" Seeing it acted out in a wrestling storyline, clearly trying to play on that line of thinking, and seeing the audience buying it and booing her so much, is creepy.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Feb 14, 2012 18:29:04 GMT -5
Oh for the love of... Ok, white knighting aside, let's just look at this. You have Zack Ryder, who tries really hard to get a date with Eve, but keeps getting sidetracked by circumstance, aka a large masked dude named Kane. Even after he finally gets a date, Circumstance ruins everything, but damnit he will not give up. And he risks life and limb to protect her. Now sure, Eve is perfectly allowed to turn him down, but her timing was something straight out of the 1980s villain handbook. He was in a bodycast/wheelchair holding roses on national television. The only thing she could have done to make it worse was dunk pigs blood on him. I don't know what "white knighting" means, but you're kind of demonstrating my exact point, here. What's creepy is the implication that if Zack does enough for Eve... risking life and limb, protecting her, not giving up... then she has some sort of obligation to reciprocate his attraction to her. If she doesn't, if she turns him down, then she must just be cold-hearted and evil. Boo! I mean, this is a wrestling storyline, so it'll probably turn out that she's actually a vampire with mind-control powers who's really Kane's long-lost twin sister, or something. But in real life, this empathy actually comes from guys who have gone through that exact thought process, "I did so much for youuuuu I hate you for just thinking of me as a friend! How dare you have your own preferences and desires! I mean, you have been NICE to me! In my mind, that is as good as you handing me a signed affidavit pledging that your feelings for me are romantic!" Seeing it acted out in a wrestling storyline, clearly trying to play on that line of thinking, and seeing the audience buying it and booing her so much, is creepy. She isnt obligated to go out with him. The valiant man defending the damsel in distress isnt something that applies in 2012. However, if she wasnt interested, all she had to do was brush him off, but she lead him on through all he suffered, and then only said they should be friends when he caught her making out with what was his best friend. Girls are capable of leading guys on unnecessarily. Its not a rock solid case of "guy acts nice to get sexed up" every single time. Yes, that happens, but it isnt an every time thing.
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