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Post by Citizen Snips on Feb 14, 2012 20:39:29 GMT -5
lost in all this, has John Cena being married ever been mentioned in Kayfabe? if he's still married, anyway. can't say I'm up on that stuff. At RAW in Boston in July, he addressed his wife during commercial, and mentioned it was either their anniversary, or it was fast approaching. Next week, Kane tricks Mrs Cena into banging Zach Ryder.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Feb 14, 2012 20:45:39 GMT -5
I don't see why not. For weeks Zack has been trying to get with her, then she teases a possible relationship, raising his hopes. Then on the day before Valentine's Day, Zack, in neckbrace and wheelchair w/roses, catches her making out with his best broski, breaking his heart. Then to add salt to the wound, she friend-zones him after everything he's went through for the past month. THEN to top that off, he gets wheeled right off the stage. How can anyone not feel sorry for Zack Ryder right now? Seriously. Dude got chokeslammed off a dock for her, his back broken disc herniated for her, he tried and tried and was so endearingly dorky...and she turns around and starts sucking Cena's face right there? And THEN friendzones him on live TV? Are you serious, bro?! And she sucks Cena's face clean off despite his not really having DONE anything!
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 14, 2012 20:49:45 GMT -5
And, bingo. The reaction to this is honestly knda disheartening. Oh for the love of... Ok, white knighting aside, let's just look at this. You have Zack Ryder, who tries really hard to get a date with Eve, but keeps getting sidetracked by circumstance, aka a large masked dude named Kane. Even after he finally gets a date, Circumstance ruins everything, but damnit he will not give up. And he risks life and limb to protect her. Now sure, Eve is perfectly allowed to turn him down, but her timing was something straight out of the 1980s villain handbook. He was in a bodycast/wheelchair holding roses on national television. The only thing she could have done to make it worse was dunk pigs blood on him. Zack Ryders Dad: "They're all going to laugh at you, bro! WWWYKI."
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Post by kyromax on Feb 14, 2012 20:55:34 GMT -5
We ALL criticize WWE's storylines a lot, but this deserves a lot of credit. Eve was hated, lol REALLY hated for that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 20:59:44 GMT -5
I don't see why not. For weeks Zack has been trying to get with her, then she teases a possible relationship, raising his hopes. Then on the day before Valentine's Day, Zack, in neckbrace and wheelchair w/roses, catches her making out with his best broski, breaking his heart. Then to add salt to the wound, she friend-zones him after everything he's went through for the past month. THEN to top that off, he gets wheeled right off the stage. How can anyone not feel sorry for Zack Ryder right now? Because he's like the annoying wussy guy from The Stoned Age, and he was wearing a Broski headband? It's enough for me. I didn't feel bad for him. I laughed at all of it. I'm a pretty terrible person overall, though. I want all this to end in a Cena/Eve Live Sex Celebration on Zack's waterbed in his mom's house in L.I.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 21:03:24 GMT -5
The only other occasion that comes close to me is the "never give up" chant Cena received when he got stuck in the Nexus.
"We all hate you" is the absolute best chant I've ever heard.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Feb 14, 2012 21:16:17 GMT -5
lost in all this, has John Cena being married ever been mentioned in Kayfabe? No, and if/when it ever gets mentioned, we will know WWE has decided Cena is no longer their #1 face (whether or not they're turning him heel). An integral part of Cena's popularity is that he's a handsome, strapping young(ish) man whom a demographic of the fanbase can fantasize about (a demographic that isn't typically associated with watching pro wrestling, which is why hooking them in is even more essential during down periods when the core audience is dwindling; it's the same reason the New Generation was built around prettyboys Bret and Shawn). Which is why it's no surprise that adult men, even of the non-smarky variety, are ambivalent towards him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 21:19:12 GMT -5
Well friend zoned is the new trendy thing to bitch about on the internet and most of the WWE's fan base is male so congrats WWE for being trendy
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Post by percymania on Feb 14, 2012 22:55:25 GMT -5
Would the crowd cheer if Kane attacked Eve now?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 14, 2012 23:57:16 GMT -5
lost in all this, has John Cena being married ever been mentioned in Kayfabe? No, and if/when it ever gets mentioned, we will know WWE has decided Cena is no longer their #1 face (whether or not they're turning him heel). An integral part of Cena's popularity is that he's a handsome, strapping young(ish) man whom a demographic of the fanbase can fantasize about (a demographic that isn't typically associated with watching pro wrestling, which is why hooking them in is even more essential during down periods when the core audience is dwindling; it's the same reason the New Generation was built around prettyboys Bret and Shawn). Which is why it's no surprise that adult men, even of the non-smarky variety, are ambivalent towards him. right, the "there's lots of women who are going to want to have... SEX with you, and we want them to think they can" bit from the Simpsons. I wonder if Mrs. Cena cried when John tried explaining to her it was just until WWE'stour of Sweden was done.
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Post by stealthamo on Feb 15, 2012 0:16:24 GMT -5
lost in all this, has John Cena being married ever been mentioned in Kayfabe? No, and if/when it ever gets mentioned, we will know WWE has decided Cena is no longer their #1 face (whether or not they're turning him heel). I thought Punk brought up that Cena's wife was in attendance in one of his promos leading up to Money in the Bank. Outside of that though, I don't recall anybody mentioning. I didn't catch the second half of Raw (anything after HHH/HBK), but I caught the rest on Youtube. What's amazing is that you can actually hear the entire audience groan when Eve says she just wants to be friends. Here's the clip from the WWEFanNation account, and you can hear the groans at :34-:35. And for some reason, when I heard that reaction, I immediately thought of this:
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Feb 15, 2012 0:18:24 GMT -5
No, and if/when it ever gets mentioned, we will know WWE has decided Cena is no longer their #1 face (whether or not they're turning him heel). I thought Punk brought up that Cena's wife was in attendance in one of his promos leading up to Money in the Bank. Outside of that though, I don't recall anybody mentioning. Yeah, it's been mentioned in passing but nothing like Orton and his harem so it can easily be ignored or forgotten.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 15, 2012 0:36:45 GMT -5
So will Cena and Ryder patch up their friendship and become broskis again once they find out Eve and Kane were in kahoots to play mind games with Cena?
Turn in next week...same Broski Time, same Broski Channel!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 2:12:55 GMT -5
The defending of Eve is blowing my mind.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 15, 2012 4:39:31 GMT -5
The fan reactions were excellent.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Feb 15, 2012 4:53:24 GMT -5
She really should have waited til Zack wasn't in a wheelchair to break his heart. This right here. There are pretty much three reasons to hold off breaking up or turning down someone: if they're grieving, if they're sick/injured, or if it's a holiday or right before one. She did a good two out of three. Nice job there, Cordelia.
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Post by 4real on Feb 15, 2012 6:17:24 GMT -5
As soon as Eve told Zack she just wanted to be friends I knew exactly how he felt. And I'm sure the fans in the arena and other people on T.V. felt the same way.
If you get a face character and something happens to him that you can relate to then you're doing the right thing. Face characters have to be relatable to get cheered if they don't have that respect factor.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 15, 2012 6:44:54 GMT -5
You're tearing me apart, Eve!
I did not hit her, I did not!
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Post by lewis1711 on Feb 15, 2012 7:07:39 GMT -5
Oh for the love of... Ok, white knighting aside, let's just look at this. You have Zack Ryder, who tries really hard to get a date with Eve, but keeps getting sidetracked by circumstance, aka a large masked dude named Kane. Even after he finally gets a date, Circumstance ruins everything, but damnit he will not give up. And he risks life and limb to protect her. Now sure, Eve is perfectly allowed to turn him down, but her timing was something straight out of the 1980s villain handbook. He was in a bodycast/wheelchair holding roses on national television. The only thing she could have done to make it worse was dunk pigs blood on him. I don't know what "white knighting" means, but you're kind of demonstrating my exact point, here. What's creepy is the implication that if Zack does enough for Eve... risking life and limb, protecting her, not giving up... then she has some sort of obligation to reciprocate his attraction to her. If she doesn't, if she turns him down, then she must just be cold-hearted and evil. Boo! I mean, this is a wrestling storyline, so it'll probably turn out that she's actually a vampire with mind-control powers who's really Kane's long-lost twin sister, or something. But in real life, this empathy actually comes from guys who have gone through that exact thought process, "I did so much for youuuuu I hate you for just thinking of me as a friend! How dare you have your own preferences and desires! I mean, you have been NICE to me! In my mind, that is as good as you handing me a signed affidavit pledging that your feelings for me are romantic!" Seeing it acted out in a wrestling storyline, clearly trying to play on that line of thinking, and seeing the audience buying it and booing her so much, is creepy. There's nothing creepy about the audience feeling empathy with someone being rejected. It seems like you have your own issues with men you're projecting onto the crowd..
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 15, 2012 9:58:10 GMT -5
You're tearing me apart, Eve! I did not hit her, I did not! </sees Undertaker> Oh hai, Mark.
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