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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Sept 27, 2011 9:11:16 GMT -5
I can still watch them without question. He is still a phenomenal talent in the ring, as his portfolio of matches testify. I dont think the WWE are doing the wrong thing by blacking him out, I can still see a Benoit match if I want to on YouTube. The WrestleMania XX main event is still a classic.
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Post by cactussam on Sept 27, 2011 9:36:01 GMT -5
Hardest one for me, and I will never watch it again is Bret vs. Benoit in the Owen tribute match. A near perfect match in honor of Owen, was ruined by Benoit
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Post by thesingularity on Sept 27, 2011 12:31:52 GMT -5
Didn't have a problem watching before. Didn't have a problem watching after. Don't have a problem watching now.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Sept 27, 2011 12:51:15 GMT -5
I haven't watched a Benoit match since the Raw Tribute Show. Idk if I'll ever be able to watch one ever again. I thought about giving it a shot at some point but I'm not sure when that will be.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 27, 2011 12:59:50 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I don't get that argument. There's really no separating the two. Of course there is. Chris Benoit was a character he played on a TV show. The character on TV didnt kill them. The person who played the character killed them. That is a matter of perspective. For me there is nothing to seperate Chris Benoit the man from Chris Benoit the character because for all intents and puposes Chris Benoit the character was Chris Benoit the character was Chris Benoit the man. There's no clear distinction, like with The Undertaker and Mark Calaway. There was no fictional backstory, no exaggerated mannerisms. The man you saw on TV was Chris Benoit and was always presented as such. In essence it's Chris Benoit playing himself. But if you can make the distinction then more power to you.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Sept 27, 2011 13:02:11 GMT -5
I just think it stinks that Randy Orton's first World Title win will in all likelihood never be available again.
I remember it being a real good match, too. That's one that really should have been on Orton's set, but we all know why it wasn't.
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Post by molson5 on Sept 27, 2011 13:19:32 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I don't get that argument. There's really no separating the two. Of course there is. Chris Benoit was a character he played on a TV show. The character on TV didnt kill them. The person who played the character killed them. So who was Benoit's family cheering on at Backlash? We they cheering the character or the person? I've never watched a Brad Pitt movie and saw his real-life family cheer him on in the movie. Wrestling's a little unusual in that way, there is a blurring of the lines.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Sept 27, 2011 13:30:29 GMT -5
Of course there is. Chris Benoit was a character he played on a TV show. The character on TV didnt kill them. The person who played the character killed them. So who was Benoit's family cheering on at Backlash? We they cheering the character or the person? I've never watched a Brad Pitt movie and saw his real-life family cheer him on in the movie. Wrestling's a little unusual in that way, there is a blurring of the lines. Wrestling compares more to a play than a movie. Sure, you may turn up to cheer a relative, but he is playing a character. Same name or not, even if the character is adapted from real life, its still a character.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 27, 2011 13:45:38 GMT -5
So who was Benoit's family cheering on at Backlash? We they cheering the character or the person? I've never watched a Brad Pitt movie and saw his real-life family cheer him on in the movie. Wrestling's a little unusual in that way, there is a blurring of the lines. Wrestling compares more to a play than a movie. Sure, you may turn up to cheer a relative, but he is playing a character. Same name or not, even if the character is adapted from real life, its still a character. If you can make that distinction fine but some of us can't.
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Post by johnnybaseball, Mantaur Fan on Sept 27, 2011 14:09:26 GMT -5
So who was Benoit's family cheering on at Backlash? We they cheering the character or the person? I've never watched a Brad Pitt movie and saw his real-life family cheer him on in the movie. Wrestling's a little unusual in that way, there is a blurring of the lines. Wrestling compares more to a play than a movie. Sure, you may turn up to cheer a relative, but he is playing a character. Same name or not, even if the character is adapted from real life, its still a character. And when that actor playing that character then murders his family, do you want to watch him act anymore? It's a distinction without a difference.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 27, 2011 14:40:26 GMT -5
I can watch a Benoit match today just fine, but that doesn't mean the double murder/suicide isn't somewhere in the back of my mind. Mostly I find it a shame how he rendered that great ring work so irrelevant.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Sept 27, 2011 14:51:19 GMT -5
Wrestling compares more to a play than a movie. Sure, you may turn up to cheer a relative, but he is playing a character. Same name or not, even if the character is adapted from real life, its still a character. If you can make that distinction fine but some of us can't. Im not saying you have to. I appreciate the sensitive nature of the subject, and I feel that this is really an "each to your own" topic. You arent wrong for seeing this differently to me.
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 27, 2011 18:01:20 GMT -5
Wrestling compares more to a play than a movie. Sure, you may turn up to cheer a relative, but he is playing a character. Same name or not, even if the character is adapted from real life, its still a character. And when that actor playing that character then murders his family, do you want to watch him act anymore? It's a distinction without a difference. In that case, I would feel the same way as I do about Benoit. I'd never want to watch that actor in a movie again, and I'd cringe at seeing him even in a cameo. For example; Roman Polanski -- he didn't even kill anyone, but I still won't watch any of his movies because he raped a 14 year old back in the 70's (and fled the country to avoid prison time).
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 27, 2011 20:01:04 GMT -5
The hardest part of growing up is watching your heros tumble. Benoit is no different
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 18:03:42 GMT -5
I can watch his matches with only a slight thought of the murders he committed. I was a huge fan and still enjoy watching him from time to time.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Sept 28, 2011 18:12:56 GMT -5
I also havent seen a Benoit match outside of clips since the Tribute Show. Its not necessarily by choice, I just havent had the reason to view one. My instinct tells me not to. He doesnt deserve to be remembered for anything he did in wrestling.
That said, I do think its important that he's not forgotten, if only for the blind hope that the knowledge of Benoit will maybe help someone whos in similar circumstances.
One thing that really does bother me is the use of the Crossface. While I know that he wasnt the orignator of the hold, it still is mostly associated with him. I also think its important that wrestling "take back" the move. That being said, Im ALWAYS reminded about the rumor (or truth, unsure) that he killed Daniel while in the hold whenever I see it no matter who does it.
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Post by Ace Ventura on Sept 28, 2011 18:21:23 GMT -5
I watch Benoit matches fine. What he did was horrible, yes.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Sept 28, 2011 18:22:39 GMT -5
I can't watch any of them. I don't go out of my way not to see him, I just don't and have no interest to.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Sept 28, 2011 19:03:55 GMT -5
hat being said, Im ALWAYS reminded about the rumor (or truth, unsure) that he killed Daniel while in the hold whenever I see it no matter who does it. I -- I'm sorry? What? Never heard that, and kinda makes Cena using the move in Edmonton a lot more... uncomfortable, I guess is the word I'm looking for.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Sept 28, 2011 19:07:55 GMT -5
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