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Post by stuart minkus on Mar 20, 2012 23:06:42 GMT -5
going into mania?
I know this thread seems pretty left field since he's won just about every match he's been involved in this year, but hear me out.
Storyline wise, it seems they're setting up AJ for a divas title run, with Bryan pulling the strings. Based on the last couple segments (and even Fridays smackdown spoilers) it very well seems that they're setting up Bryan and AJ as a "power couple"...I mean, if he drops the title at mania, doesn't this angle have to come to an end? Why would they jumpstart an angle 2 weeks away from mania if they know they're going to abandon it so quickly?
Sheamus steamrolling over everyone may lead most to believe he has all the momentum in the world, but personally, I don't really see it that way. Storyline wise, Sheam' has no direction. Bryan does. A part of me wants to say Sheam' will win since Punk'll is obviously retain, but still... I'm kinda on the fence...
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 20, 2012 23:09:21 GMT -5
I know the storyline is basically just "Sheamus wants title, Bryan has title" but there really should at least be SOME kind of emotional attachment other than "I must beat you."
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Post by stuart minkus on Mar 20, 2012 23:11:44 GMT -5
I know the storyline is basically just "Sheamus wants title, Bryan has title" but there really should at least be SOME kind of emotional attachment other than "I must beat you." lol right, another reason why I can't see Sheamus dethroning Bryan. this feud almost feels like filler. It almost feels the Bryan/AJ angle is more important than the Bryan/Sheamus feud.  |
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Post by turkeysandwich on Mar 20, 2012 23:12:35 GMT -5
No, I agree. I said pretty much the same thing in the Raw tread, I feel like they've fallen in love with what Bryan and AJ have been doing lately, and they don't care so much about Sheamus anymore.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 20, 2012 23:13:02 GMT -5
I know the storyline is basically just "Sheamus wants title, Bryan has title" but there really should at least be SOME kind of emotional attachment other than "I must beat you." lol right, another reason why I can't see Sheamus dethroning Bryan. this feud almost feels like filler. It almost feels the Bryan/AJ angle is more important than the Bryan/Sheamus feud. Feels to me like Rock/Cena with Miz from last year. People are expecting something to happen with AJ that Sheamus seems in the background. |
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 20, 2012 23:13:30 GMT -5
It's really bad at the moment.
In the past few months since Sheamus won the Royal Rumble, Bryan had potential feuds/matches/storylines with Big Show, Mark Henry, CM Punk, Randy Orton and AJ. So Bryan's been busy. All those matches would have more momentum (yes, even AJ vs Bryan) then Bryan vs Sheamus.
After weeks of thinking about it, it would be better for Bryan to go over, maybe go over at the next pay per view, and then feud with Punk after the Jericho feud, or even add Randy Orton into the mix, as they have unfinished business.
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 20, 2012 23:15:15 GMT -5
I think you guys are looking at it too much through a smark fanpoint. To the regular/bulk of WWE fans, they desperately want to see Sheamus demolish DB and win the World Heavyweight Title.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 23:15:52 GMT -5
I want Bryan to retain so badly. Sheamus can wait, or go to Raw or something. There's no reason at all that one of the hottest acts in the company, definitely the guy who has stepped up the most recently, should drop the title way too soon to a guy with no momentum like Sheamus.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Mar 20, 2012 23:16:31 GMT -5
A part of the problem is that they're still in the process of establishing Bryan's heel character. First he was just another guy retaining through cheap technicalities, then he picked up Punk's "Straight Edge Veganity means I'm better than you", followed by Miz's "All you thought I'd never make it this far and you were WRONG", and now an old classic, Savage's "Act like a dick to your babyface girlfriend".
All that in a span of under three months. When a heel who has a world title match at Wrestlemania is still having crucial parts of their gimmick being established post-Elimination Chamber, something's gone wrong. As it stands, I think they've decided they need to use the precious little time they have left to try and make Bryan look like a big enough deal that beating him will actually look like an acomplishment.
If only they had some heel on Smackdown who'd spent all summer being established as a huge threat and who already had unfinished business with Sheamus. I'm sure if there were a wrestler like that ready for a Wrestlemania match, they'd be a great fit for a world title showdown here and totally not shoved into a random 12-man tag match filler or anything.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 20, 2012 23:19:27 GMT -5
I know the storyline is basically just "Sheamus wants title, Bryan has title" but there really should at least be SOME kind of emotional attachment other than "I must beat you." I don't see why it should. The fact that he's the Rumble winner and gets to go for the World title at Wrestlemania should be enough motivation for Sheamus. I actually think it's nice for a change to see that someone values winning titles over petty personal squabbles. It makes the championships actually look like they mean something. |
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Post by mizerable on Mar 20, 2012 23:26:21 GMT -5
It's not the momentum...it's lack of drive. I don't know...I like the guy, but seeing how crowded the main event scene is already, he just feels like he's running behind everyone else. Add to the fact that the Royal Rumble winner has lost a lot of prestige over the last several years...and that doesn't come from bad booking as much as it comes from match placement. With the exception of WM25, the Royal Rumble winner hasn't been in the main event since WM21 and hasn't won since WM23.
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Post by joebob27 on Mar 20, 2012 23:28:56 GMT -5
A part of the problem is that they're still in the process of establishing Bryan's heel character. First he was just another guy retaining through cheap technicalities, then he picked up Punk's " Straight Edge Veganity means I'm better than you", followed by Miz's "All you thought I'd never make it this far and you were WRONG", and now an old classic, Savage's "Act like a dick to your babyface girlfriend". All that in a span of under three months. When a heel who has a world title match at Wrestlemania is still having crucial parts of their gimmick being established post-Elimination Chamber, something's gone wrong. As it stands, I think they've decided they need to use the precious little time they have left to try and make Bryan look like a big enough deal that beating him will actually look like an acomplishment. If only they had some heel on Smackdown who'd spent all summer being established as a huge threat and who already had unfinished business with Sheamus. I'm sure if there were a wrestler like that ready for a Wrestlemania match, they'd be a great fit for a world title showdown here and totally not shoved into a random 12-man tag match filler or anything. But,but,but he got hurt and then missed all of those matches that he ended up working anyway! |
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Post by CH Punk on Mar 20, 2012 23:34:48 GMT -5
I think you guys are looking at it too much through a smark fanpoint. To the regular/bulk of WWE fans, they desperately want to see Sheamus demolish DB and win the World Heavyweight Title. This and I suspect that they built the AJ/Bryan angle to intensify most people's desire of wanting to see Bryan lose the title at Mania and, based on the reactions on Twitter and WWE.com, it's working. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 20, 2012 23:46:39 GMT -5
They've written themselves into a corner because the story would work better long term with Sheamus chasing Bryan and his gradual mistreatment of AJ leading to either her turning on him, or his issues with her costing him the belt.
But they can't afford to have the Rumble winner lose for the fifth year in a row, especially when a stalled Sheamus needs all momentum he can get.
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Post by ecabney on Mar 21, 2012 0:00:35 GMT -5
Agreed. The guy hardly gets any tv time, and when he does, he sucks the life out of every segment he's in. Great big man worker, but his eventual title reign is about to be more boring than Orton's reign of terror that took place during last summer. I hope creative finally comes to their senses after his first reign as a super-babyface, and decide that he's only useful as a contender of the title instead of being the champion. He doesn't really make a compelling contender either, but anything is better than having to endure a super Sheamus run at this point, especially coming off of a better than expected Bryan reign. I mean the guy has the most character development in the guy, and managed to get a potential feud of the year nominee out of the Big Show of all people.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 21, 2012 0:08:02 GMT -5
But they can't afford to have the Rumble winner lose for the fifth year in a row, especially when a stalled Sheamus needs all momentum he can get. I would actually think it would be a nice change if Bryan won with a roll up plus the tights...which would just send Sheamus over the edge and we could have a nice post match beat down. AJ could also get involved in the match, and Sheamus would eventually chase her up the ramp. |
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 21, 2012 0:10:36 GMT -5
But they can't afford to have the Rumble winner lose for the fifth year in a row, especially when a stalled Sheamus needs all momentum he can get. I would actually think it would be a nice change if Bryan won with a roll up plus the tights...which would just send Sheamus over the edge and we could have a nice post match beat down. Sounds a lot like Jericho/Edge two years ago. |
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Post by mizerable on Mar 21, 2012 0:12:43 GMT -5
This seems more justifiable and makes a lot more sense, given Sheamus' character.
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Post by Spec_Sun on Mar 21, 2012 0:18:07 GMT -5
I felt that he had momentum after The Royal Rumble, but they've killed it off ever so slowly since. They're more concerned with pushing everything else really hard except for Sheamus. On Smackdown, Daniel Bryan is getting more focus than Sheamus. I would not be surprised at all if the E did the same dumb thing they did last year at WrestleMania by having the World Heavyweight Championship Match open the card. It's gotten to the point where The Royal Rumble winner seems more meaningless by the year.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 21, 2012 0:27:08 GMT -5
The man has beaten just about everyone he's been in the ring with. Matter of fact, I can't remember the last time he's lost clean. He's fine.
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