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Post by gnr123 on Jan 28, 2013 15:31:46 GMT -5
Wrestlemania... where rematches are our new gimmick Austin/Rock 2 Austin/Rock 3 Taker/Triple H 2 Taker/Triple H 3 Taker/HBK 1 Taker/HBK 2 WWE doing Cena/Rock 2 at Wrestlemania is not the first time (and it's sure as hell not the last time) that they have the same main event matches at two Wrestlemania's.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Jan 28, 2013 17:04:40 GMT -5
The epic reign is over, but let us not mourn for CM Punk. Instead we must celebrate. You see, CM Punk defied the odds time and time again even when many (including myself, a die hard Punk fan) thought he would have the title until WM XXVIII tops. But you know what? 434 days as WWE Champion is something that Punk can hold his head proudly for. This time 5 years ago I was a 13 year old becoming more and more disheartened each time Punk kept losing to the likes of John Morrison and Chavo Guerrero. Now I'm 18 years old and I am damn proud to have stuck by my man through thick and thin. No one else could've been able to do what he has just done. If you had told my 13 year old self that Punk would not only hold the title for 14 months, but that he would lose the title in a dream match scenario against THE ROCK I wouldn't have believed you.
Am I bummed that he's no longer champion? Yes. Absolutely. It kills me inside because I wanted Punk to be champion forever. But considering the length of the title reign and how good it was, I look at it as being better than I ever expected in my wildest imagination. The 434 day reign has finished, but CM Punk's career and legacy will live on forever.
Thank you Vince McMahon. Thank you WWE. And thank you CM Punk. For helping this fan believe in one man over the years no matter how bleak things looked for both him and the company since 2006, and thank you for giving wrestling fans a title reign and a champion they can be proud to have witnessed.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Jan 28, 2013 17:06:27 GMT -5
Wrestlemania... where rematches are our new gimmick Austin/Rock 2 Austin/Rock 3 Taker/Triple H 2 Taker/Triple H 3 Taker/HBK 1 Taker/HBK 2 WWE doing Cena/Rock 2 at Wrestlemania is not the first time (and it's sure as hell not the last time) that they have the same main event matches at two Wrestlemania's. While it was just a joke and you were trying to rip the funny right out of it... Rock/austin were (at best) two years apart, and Taker/HH 1 to Taker/HH 2 was 10 years apart... these hardly size up to the fact that we've had 3 repeat matches in the last 4 years.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 28, 2013 17:19:42 GMT -5
I wanted more Austin/Rock HBK/Taker matches after the first one's they had at Mania, I didn't get the same feeling with either HHH/Taker (I can never make my mind up about their HITC match last year, I am on the fence when I watched live I loved it but I haven't enjoyed it as much in second or third viewings) and now Cena/Rock. And this is coming from someone who enjoyed Cena vs Rock at last years Mania.
Rock vs Austin was a positive for 3 matches at Mania due to: all the matches being classics IMO, a new different and compelling story going into each match, the 1 Mania break between the 3 matches, the insane amount of chemistry they both had, the fact that they both have a legitimate claim to be called the best of all time
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Post by Snaptastic on Jan 28, 2013 17:35:18 GMT -5
Because in a fixed sport, there are inevitabilities that some things will never last forever. An NFL team could theoretically go on an infinite winning streak. A WWE wrestler never will. Punk had a longer reign than I felt was needed, and in my book he can thank Rock that it went on as long as it did. I can guarantee that had Rock never came back, Punk would have dropped the belt at NoC. Also Rock would have never been given the title if he hadn't popped two 1 million+ buys at Mania in a row. I have no problem with someone who does that for business the top spot for a few months. Sure I don't care for who he's going to drop it to, but it's not like Cena wasn't going to win it ever again. Expecting/hoping for your team to go undefeated for a long time is just about as realistic as hoping for your favorite wrestler to do it as well. Hell actually it's more realistic for a wrestler to do it since he can be booked that way. It's fandom, people wanting what they want. Let people want and like what they want, why is that so hard to except? Why can't we just be fans at some point, business be damned? Not everything we talk about and do needs to focus on what is right for business. Yes we talk about what we think would be best and I'll guarantee 99% of us know Rock defending the title is best for this year but that is not what we want and there is not a damned thing wrong with it. Yes, we talk about the business side and wanting to see them do something special, to build up new people but that doesn't mean we aren't doing that to see the guys we want get there. It's all fandom but at some point people forgot that. It may not seem like it, but I'm in total agreement with your point of view. I think you may recall me saying on numerous occasions that I'd rather Punk win at the Rumble due to what was the end result. That opinion was based on pure fandom of not wanting to see Rock drop the belt to Cena. So I know where you're coming from and as said, I agree.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 28, 2013 17:41:20 GMT -5
Expecting/hoping for your team to go undefeated for a long time is just about as realistic as hoping for your favorite wrestler to do it as well. Hell actually it's more realistic for a wrestler to do it since he can be booked that way. It's fandom, people wanting what they want. Let people want and like what they want, why is that so hard to except? Why can't we just be fans at some point, business be damned? Not everything we talk about and do needs to focus on what is right for business. Yes we talk about what we think would be best and I'll guarantee 99% of us know Rock defending the title is best for this year but that is not what we want and there is not a damned thing wrong with it. Yes, we talk about the business side and wanting to see them do something special, to build up new people but that doesn't mean we aren't doing that to see the guys we want get there. It's all fandom but at some point people forgot that. It may not seem like it, but I'm in total agreement with your point of view. I think you may recall me saying on numerous occasions that I'd rather Punk win at the Rumble due to what was the end result. That opinion was based on pure fandom of not wanting to see Rock drop the belt to Cena. So I know where you're coming from and as said, I agree. Ahh, sorry. All this is starting to run together after almost 18 hours and I am losing track of who has said what.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 28, 2013 19:51:20 GMT -5
Because in a fixed sport, there are inevitabilities that some things will never last forever. An NFL team could theoretically go on an infinite winning streak. A WWE wrestler never will. Punk had a longer reign than I felt was needed, and in my book he can thank Rock that it went on as long as it did. I can guarantee that had Rock never came back, Punk would have dropped the belt at NoC. Also Rock would have never been given the title if he hadn't popped two 1 million+ buys at Mania in a row. I have no problem with someone who does that for business the top spot for a few months. Sure I don't care for who he's going to drop it to, but it's not like Cena wasn't going to win it ever again. Expecting/hoping for your team to go undefeated for a long time is just about as realistic as hoping for your favorite wrestler to do it as well. Hell actually it's more realistic for a wrestler to do it since he can be booked that way. It's fandom, people wanting what they want. Let people want and like what they want, why is that so hard to except? Why can't we just be fans at some point, business be damned? Not everything we talk about and do needs to focus on what is right for business. Yes we talk about what we think would be best and I'll guarantee 99% of us know Rock defending the title is best for this year but that is not what we want and there is not a damned thing wrong with it. Yes, we talk about the business side and wanting to see them do something special, to build up new people but that doesn't mean we aren't doing that to see the guys we want get there. It's all fandom but at some point people forgot that. I don't have a problem with not liking it, but to see people act like Punk was buried or treated as a transitional champ is a tad ridiculous. It's not like the WWE is going to forget who has the title.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 28, 2013 19:57:16 GMT -5
Expecting/hoping for your team to go undefeated for a long time is just about as realistic as hoping for your favorite wrestler to do it as well. Hell actually it's more realistic for a wrestler to do it since he can be booked that way. It's fandom, people wanting what they want. Let people want and like what they want, why is that so hard to except? Why can't we just be fans at some point, business be damned? Not everything we talk about and do needs to focus on what is right for business. Yes we talk about what we think would be best and I'll guarantee 99% of us know Rock defending the title is best for this year but that is not what we want and there is not a damned thing wrong with it. Yes, we talk about the business side and wanting to see them do something special, to build up new people but that doesn't mean we aren't doing that to see the guys we want get there. It's all fandom but at some point people forgot that. I don't have a problem with not liking it, but to see people act like Punk was buried or treated as a transitional champ is a tad ridiculous. It's not like the WWE is going to forget who has the title. It does get on my nerves to see so many people rating what was a well produced, wrestled, and highly entertaining show badly just because Cena and Rock won. I honestly do feel like some people are brainwashed by Punk now and can't boo him or say anything bad about the guy anymore. It's almost the reverse of what some people think about Cena to me.
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