Jonathan Michaels
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Sept 2, 2012 22:38:19 GMT -5
If the show had ended with a fade out of the chatting in the backyard, I would have been perfectly happy to say screw the last eight episodes and pretend that was it.
So, predictions for next season?
I say Saul gives Walt up.
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Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Sept 2, 2012 22:44:49 GMT -5
You know that you are watching a great show when something like a family sitting around a table chatting can seem terrifying. I knew something was about to happen and was really nervous there at the end. I thought something might happen like Lydia had sent a hitman and was going to shoot Hank when he went inside the house, or the baby was going to fall in the pool, something. Things were just too nice. Me too. Even the thing with Holly falling in the pool! I was seriously sitting there watching and glancing at the clock, all while fidgeting. It was too happy of a setting for nothing to go down, especially for the last episode of the mid-season until one full year. While the ending is all we're talking about, what about Walt quitting? And what about Jesse being prepared to kill Walt before he gave him his 5 million? As a matter of fact, we had 2 near deaths that were prevented after an act of kindness; Lydia (although her was more of a bribery, but you see where I'm coming from), and Walt.
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BigBadZ
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Post by BigBadZ on Sept 2, 2012 22:52:36 GMT -5
You know that you are watching a great show when something like a family sitting around a table chatting can seem terrifying. I knew something was about to happen and was really nervous there at the end. I thought something might happen like Lydia had sent a hitman and was going to shoot Hank when he went inside the house, or the baby was going to fall in the pool, something. Things were just too nice. I thought they were about to have the sunscreen mixed with ricin and poison the children. Like you said, everything seemed a little too nice at the pool setting. If Hank has figured out Walt, it would be so easy for him to go along with it if Walt really quits. His bosses already want him to give up on the case (granted it was before all the murders and lawyer getting caught), and Hank was saying something of missing his old job. Not to mention, Walt has enough money to live 10 lifetimes so they could all be pretty set. Walt and Hank could keep sending the DEA toward Lydia and dead Mike....
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Massive G
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Post by Massive G on Sept 2, 2012 23:04:23 GMT -5
OF COURSE he would keep a gift from a guy he ordered to be killed, why wouldn't he? He'd be stupid not to keep it! Especially after that conversation where Hank LITERALLY said "what is W.W.? Could it be Walter White? HARF HARF HARF" honestly, that was pretty dumb. Good episode otherwise though. Although I can't figure out Lydia's angle. I wonder what's going on with her. Lydia gets to stay out of trouble. And it's because he overlooked it, as careful as he was he still makes tiny stupid mistakes that he didn't think would ever make a difference. It's perfect, because stupid mistakes is how people usually go down. but isn't that a little too stupid of a mistake? I feel like it would have been better if they hadn't shown the flashback at all. I don't remember if we've seen this book before, or if we already knew that it was from Gale. But after that conversation (which they just showed the flashback of) wouldn't Walt make a mental note like "wow, that totally reminds me that I should get rid of that book Gale gave me, seeing as it says almost THE EXACT SAME THING on the title page as it does in the note in Hank's file here. Whew, that was a close one." I mean, I would, and I'm not a criminal mastermind with a DEA agent for a brother in law. I know Hank has to find out, and he should find out because that's a logical way to move the story, but Hank's too smart to just have that fall into his lap like that while he's taking a dump, isn't he? And that's not even taking into account how on the nose the actual note was. It might as well have said "to my other favorite W.W., not Walt Whitman like the W.W. in my notebook, but you, Walt. From, your pal and fellow meth cook Gale Boetticher (the guy Jesse is going to shoot in the face pretty soon)." it's a small complaint, I guess, but for a show like this where the bar is set so high, silly stuff like that just stands out to me.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Sept 2, 2012 23:06:17 GMT -5
Anyone think Wa;t's cancer is back? Right after he was scanned was when he visited Jesse and told Skylar he was out. Maybe he knows times up and he wants to go peacefully like Mike did.
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Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Sept 2, 2012 23:07:27 GMT -5
I didn't think of that. It really is a good Hank was sitting on the toilet, he legit shit himself.
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Post by Some Guy on Sept 2, 2012 23:18:02 GMT -5
Lydia gets to stay out of trouble. And it's because he overlooked it, as careful as he was he still makes tiny stupid mistakes that he didn't think would ever make a difference. It's perfect, because stupid mistakes is how people usually go down. but isn't that a little too stupid of a mistake? I feel like it would have been better if they hadn't shown the flashback at all. I don't remember if we've seen this book before, or if we already knew that it was from Gale. But after that conversation (which they just showed the flashback of) wouldn't Walt make a mental note like "wow, that totally reminds me that I should get rid of that book Gale gave me, seeing as it says almost THE EXACT SAME THING on the title page as it does in the note in Hank's file here. Whew, that was a close one." I mean, I would, and I'm not a criminal mastermind with a DEA agent for a brother in law. I know Hank has to find out, and he should find out because that's a logical way to move the story, but Hank's too smart to just have that fall into his lap like that while he's taking a dump, isn't he? And that's not even taking into account how on the nose the actual note was. It might as well have said "to my other favorite W.W., not Walt Whitman like the W.W. in my notebook, but you, Walt. From, your pal and fellow meth cook Gale Boetticher (the guy Jesse is going to shoot in the face pretty soon)." it's a small complaint, I guess, but for a show like this where the bar is set so high, silly stuff like that just stands out to me. Not really, it's something that I can honestly believe Walt overlooking and not caring because he's so cocky about certain things.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Sept 3, 2012 0:02:12 GMT -5
New review/analysis in the sig, for any who are interested.
As for now, anyone really hate Lydia? Her (justifiably) skittish, paranoid persona is just so irritating to me, to say nothing of how she treats every meeting as her chance to re-enact a bad gangster movie. I was so disappointed Walt didn't get to sugar her tea with that ricin. She just goes through me.
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Perd
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Post by Perd on Sept 3, 2012 0:17:09 GMT -5
What does everyone see happening with Jesse, in the final season? With this show, I can't see anyone living happily ever after. I can see him sticking his neck out, to help Walt, and paying the price.
And knowing what we know now, what does everyone think of the opening scene of the first episode. Does it imply that Walt flipped on Madrigal and his new partners and went into witness protection?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 0:23:41 GMT -5
I don't know. Jesse and Walt are bonded forever at this point. That is until the truth about Jane and Brock come out, which I don't see happening as there isn't any foreseeable reason for it to come out.
Then again, Walt Whitman, of all things, came into play in a devastating fashion.
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Post by Stu on Sept 3, 2012 1:31:10 GMT -5
Hank finally realizes Walt is his guy, and he does it while on the crapper.
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Massive G
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Post by Massive G on Sept 3, 2012 1:50:27 GMT -5
but isn't that a little too stupid of a mistake? I feel like it would have been better if they hadn't shown the flashback at all. I don't remember if we've seen this book before, or if we already knew that it was from Gale. But after that conversation (which they just showed the flashback of) wouldn't Walt make a mental note like "wow, that totally reminds me that I should get rid of that book Gale gave me, seeing as it says almost THE EXACT SAME THING on the title page as it does in the note in Hank's file here. Whew, that was a close one." I mean, I would, and I'm not a criminal mastermind with a DEA agent for a brother in law. I know Hank has to find out, and he should find out because that's a logical way to move the story, but Hank's too smart to just have that fall into his lap like that while he's taking a dump, isn't he? And that's not even taking into account how on the nose the actual note was. It might as well have said "to my other favorite W.W., not Walt Whitman like the W.W. in my notebook, but you, Walt. From, your pal and fellow meth cook Gale Boetticher (the guy Jesse is going to shoot in the face pretty soon)." it's a small complaint, I guess, but for a show like this where the bar is set so high, silly stuff like that just stands out to me. Not really, it's something that I can honestly believe Walt overlooking and not caring because he's so cocky about certain things. but he's also so careful, right? I mean, you can't become a drug manufacturing millionaire if you aren't, right? The way I see it, if Walt thought the book was important, cared about it, or even decided to keep it around as an overconfident inside joke, he never would have left it in the bathroom, and he definitely never would have forgotten about it. And if it didn't mean anything to him, he would have gotten rid of it the same way he did the rest of the stuff at the beginning of the season.
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Post by Frosty on Sept 3, 2012 1:55:07 GMT -5
Not really, it's something that I can honestly believe Walt overlooking and not caring because he's so cocky about certain things. but he's also so careful, right? I mean, you can't become a drug manufacturing millionaire if you aren't, right? The way I see it, if Walt thought the book was important, cared about it, or even decided to keep it around as an overconfident inside joke, he never would have left it in the bathroom, and he definitely never would have forgotten about it. And if it didn't mean anything to him, he would have gotten rid of it the same way he did the rest of the stuff at the beginning of the season. I can't remember if there was a scene where we saw Walt get the book as a present or not. But, unless there was a scene, he might have taken the book and not known that Gale had written anything in it.
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Post by Some Guy on Sept 3, 2012 2:38:32 GMT -5
Not really, it's something that I can honestly believe Walt overlooking and not caring because he's so cocky about certain things. but he's also so careful, right? I mean, you can't become a drug manufacturing millionaire if you aren't, right? The way I see it, if Walt thought the book was important, cared about it, or even decided to keep it around as an overconfident inside joke, he never would have left it in the bathroom, and he definitely never would have forgotten about it. And if it didn't mean anything to him, he would have gotten rid of it the same way he did the rest of the stuff at the beginning of the season. He burned obvious stuff, stuff that would have been suspicious in any manner. This was something that he probably couldn't burn because it still had some sense of sentimental value to him, and he probably left it in the bathroom one day and never thought anything of it. Don't forget, this is the same guy who basically got Hank going again last season because he's such a cocky ass.
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Post by Stu on Sept 3, 2012 2:56:08 GMT -5
And Todd continues to be Walt's bitch ... or so it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 3:03:37 GMT -5
You know that you are watching a great show when something like a family sitting around a table chatting can seem terrifying. I knew something was about to happen and was really nervous there at the end. I thought something might happen like Lydia had sent a hitman and was going to shoot Hank when he went inside the house, or the baby was going to fall in the pool, something. Things were just too nice. Yup. I was expecting those meth guys from Arizona who he's working with being pissed off that he quit or demanding more production or something. Still I didn't like how Hank found out about Walt but I'm glad he found it. Still it felt way to simple and easy. I do believe Walt's cancer is back though hence why he "quit." This also might be the longest episode in the shows timeline. Three months for sure but it might have been even longer.
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Post by rawthentic on Sept 3, 2012 5:09:20 GMT -5
Does anybody think Walt's cancer is back?
He goes to get scanned and then he wants out. I also remember in the first episode of the season when they show him a year later, he let's out a cough in the bathroom and looks somewhat ill like he did in the early seasons. I think he found out the cancer is back and the whole "building an empire" thing is for nada..so he just wants to live out a normal existence and grant Skyler her wish. Walt is far from redeemable at this point though.
Of course, Hank finding out will change that and i'm guessing Walt will use the guy Saul was talking about last season and get out of dodge.
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JoDaNa1281
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Sept 3, 2012 6:18:56 GMT -5
but isn't that a little too stupid of a mistake? I feel like it would have been better if they hadn't shown the flashback at all. I don't remember if we've seen this book before, or if we already knew that it was from Gale. But after that conversation (which they just showed the flashback of) wouldn't Walt make a mental note like "wow, that totally reminds me that I should get rid of that book Gale gave me, seeing as it says almost THE EXACT SAME THING on the title page as it does in the note in Hank's file here. Whew, that was a close one." I mean, I would, and I'm not a criminal mastermind with a DEA agent for a brother in law. I know Hank has to find out, and he should find out because that's a logical way to move the story, but Hank's too smart to just have that fall into his lap like that while he's taking a dump, isn't he? And that's not even taking into account how on the nose the actual note was. It might as well have said "to my other favorite W.W., not Walt Whitman like the W.W. in my notebook, but you, Walt. From, your pal and fellow meth cook Gale Boetticher (the guy Jesse is going to shoot in the face pretty soon)." it's a small complaint, I guess, but for a show like this where the bar is set so high, silly stuff like that just stands out to me. Not really, it's something that I can honestly believe Walt overlooking and not caring because he's so cocky about certain things. Exactly, this is the guy who, after Hank was ready to declare Gale as Heisenberg & close the case, let his ego get the best of him & convinced Hank that Gale wasn't smart enough to be Heisenberg, which was what made Hank continue the case & also led him to Fring's involvement.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Sept 3, 2012 8:37:07 GMT -5
Does anybody think Walt's cancer is back? He goes to get scanned and then he wants out. I also remember in the first episode of the season when they show him a year later, he let's out a cough in the bathroom and looks somewhat ill like he did in the early seasons. I think he found out the cancer is back and the whole "building an empire" thing is for nada..so he just wants to live out a normal existence and grant Skyler her wish. Walt is far from redeemable at this point though. Of course, Hank finding out will change that and i'm guessing Walt will use the guy Saul was talking about last season and get out of dodge. This is what I think. The cancer is back. Although I don't think Walt is on the run from the DEA. I stand by my theory that Hank won't bust him out of the fear of repercussions for himself. I think Walt deciding he wants out won't sit well with the new dealers he's working with, Madrigal, Todd's family...possibly all of the above.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 10:13:37 GMT -5
I'm just wondering how Hank is going to handle this revelation and how is he going to tell Walt. Is he going to rush out of the crapper like a bull in a china store and reveal Walt is a meth dealer to the entire family? Is he going to wait and tell him in private? Is he going to do it in a unofficial police interrogation? Is he going to keep this as a secret for now and go on stake out's and spy on Walt?
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