Mr Captain Falcon
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Aug 15, 2012 0:39:23 GMT -5
I think it was Regal and not Helms actually. Could be wrong though.
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Aug 15, 2012 0:41:52 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a bad coincidence, but wikipedia vandalism is nothing new. One time in a million, it's going to be right. But the odds that when it actually is right, it happens to be about a WWE guy and the hacker is from Stamford? I'm not buying it. What's there not to buy? That's the very definition of a coincidence. If coincidences like this never happened, there wouldn't be a word for it.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Aug 15, 2012 1:00:00 GMT -5
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Post by the Black Snow on Aug 15, 2012 1:05:00 GMT -5
Someone learned an important lesson about how anonymous the internet really is.
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Marty McFry
Don Corleone
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Post by Marty McFry on Aug 15, 2012 1:06:39 GMT -5
Off topic slightly...
a 12 year old girl went missing in London recently and after the seeing the families press conference I made a couple of twitter posts...
Missing persons case? When in doubt arrest the non-blood male relative that lives with the person. When was the last time it wasn't him?
Then a day later...
If I was a gambler I'd say the gran is also involved and the body hasn't left the house
2 days later the body is found in the attic and the gran and her boyfriend are arrested. I genuinely wondered if I'd be getting a little police visit for what was just a coincedence.
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Aug 15, 2012 2:02:58 GMT -5
I never even suspected that it could be anything but a coincidence.
Stamford isn't just WWE HQ. People there have internet, and some are idiots, posers and internet pranksters who think they're cool or funny.
If anyone had known anything about what happened, why should that person write a small part of the truth in a Wikipedia article where it's probably deleted minutes later, instead of, say, calling the police, paramedics or a local TV station?
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Aug 15, 2012 2:05:23 GMT -5
a 12 year old girl went missing in London recently and after the seeing the families press conference I made a couple of twitter posts... Missing persons case? When in doubt arrest the non-blood male relative that lives with the person. When was the last time it wasn't him? Good for you if you don't get arrested for wild accusations of murder based on absolutely nothing.
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Marty McFry
Don Corleone
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Post by Marty McFry on Aug 15, 2012 2:10:23 GMT -5
a 12 year old girl went missing in London recently and after the seeing the families press conference I made a couple of twitter posts... Missing persons case? When in doubt arrest the non-blood male relative that lives with the person. When was the last time it wasn't him? Good for you if you don't get arrested for wild accusations of murder based on absolutely nothing. Based on facts, stats, history and the alleged murderer having a sinister moustache. Plus I was right!
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Post by lewis1711 on Aug 15, 2012 3:16:42 GMT -5
You guys are completely missing it... it's all part of Wade Barrets "bigger picture"
...too soon?
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Aug 15, 2012 3:56:20 GMT -5
a 12 year old girl went missing in London recently and after the seeing the families press conference I made a couple of twitter posts... Missing persons case? When in doubt arrest the non-blood male relative that lives with the person. When was the last time it wasn't him? Good for you if you don't get arrested for wild accusations of murder based on absolutely nothing. What did he say that he could get arrested for? Is it illegal in London to offer theories of a crime?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 15, 2012 7:11:35 GMT -5
Sorry guys. The simplest answer is usually correct. I have been a cop for 14 yrs and this is almost always the truth. Police determined that Benoit killed his wife, son then himself. Because it has been investigated and adjudged you may call it a fact. Occom's Razor law - the simplest explination is usually the correct one. But quantom theories kind of s*** all over that. Not sure what my point is. There's just things in this universe that our mind's can't comprehend. Are there REALLY coincidences? 1. It isn't a law, it is more of a rule of thumb. 2. The idea is that that among several hypotheses it is best to go with the one that makes the fewest assumptions. 3. Yes.
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Post by wwfmark on Aug 15, 2012 8:59:27 GMT -5
This is crazy. I had never heard of the wikipedia thing before reading through this thread. After watching those youtuve videos of the cops interviewing him, I don't think he has any connections. He is just a dumb kid who did a dumb thing on the internet and it turned out to be true.
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saintpat
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Post by saintpat on Aug 15, 2012 9:06:12 GMT -5
Sorry guys. The simplest answer is usually correct. I have been a cop for 14 yrs and this is almost always the truth. Police determined that Benoit killed his wife, son then himself. Because it has been investigated and adjudged you may call it a fact. It was never adjudged. I'm certainly not alleging that Benoit wasn't the perp or that WWE did it or whatever. But I'm betting a closer look might have revealed that the hacker knew someone who knew someone who heard the truth before it came out, or some version of the truth -- he doesn't have to be a WWE employee to hear second-hand information in Stamford. I knew the son of a lady who worked in the office of a very high-profile college football program as a secretary, and he told me lots of things before they became public. Maybe his best friend's mom was a secretary. Best I recall, he claimed to have been repeating info on the internet -- rumors from a wrestling site. Only he couldn't recall where he saw it and no one ever found such rumors posted BEFORE the bodies were found. I think there's more to this. I don't think the police wanted to complicate things. I think WWE had a lot to lose (and did lose a lot) and the fact that it was a call from WWE HQ that alerted authorities in Georgia to go check out the house to me raises some questions.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 15, 2012 9:15:59 GMT -5
someone here made the same claim here as a joke ( that benoit & family were dead.) in the thread for the ppv.
so it was the iluminati that did it.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Aug 15, 2012 9:40:51 GMT -5
My thing was always that by all rights, Chris Benoit was perhaps THE most serious, dedicated professional wrestler of all-time and almost certainly the most dedicated to his craft at the time. For him to miss a show of any sort for any reason, there had to be something really, really, really bad going on. Hell, in the back of my mind I thought it was perhaps someone messing with Nancy that caused him to miss it, so speculation that she might have died and caused him to miss the show wouldn't have shocked me in the least at the time.
To me, the bigger what-if is what if Benoit had decided to fly out to Houston and beat Punk for the ECW title. A standing WWE champion as a suspect in a murder case may have done even more damage than was done by Benoit in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 9:44:42 GMT -5
I think the early police statement that the circumstances were unusual did a lot to fuel the rumor mills. Might not have been the best thing to say.
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nisidhe
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Post by nisidhe on Aug 15, 2012 11:28:44 GMT -5
I think the early police statement that the circumstances were unusual did a lot to fuel the rumor mills. Might not have been the best thing to say. It was a stupid thing to say, but understandable given that the police had no idea who Chris and Nancy were or how this murder-suicide could have differed from the half-dozen others that Atlanta-area police were investigating that spring and summer. Occam's Razor may probably have been correct here, but there was additional stuff we either knew or could speculate on that made the simplest answer doubtful for many.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 11:31:18 GMT -5
I think the early police statement that the circumstances were unusual did a lot to fuel the rumor mills. Might not have been the best thing to say. It was a stupid thing to say, but understandable given that the police had no idea who Chris and Nancy were or how this murder-suicide could have differed from the half-dozen others that Atlanta-area police were investigating that spring and summer. Occam's Razor may probably have been correct here, but there was additional stuff we either knew or could speculate on that made the simplest answer doubtful for many. I imagine the idea was that there was such a comparatively long length of time between the murders and then his suicide, coupled with the bibles, the strange texting, and how he destroyed some things that led to the comment. Still, the way they made it sound was as if things were found at the crime scene that completely baffled and surprised the police.
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Post by norsisclouds on Aug 15, 2012 11:43:50 GMT -5
I always got the hint that it was Rey....Helms sounds like a wierd guy for Benoit to have been close to. Knew each other in WCW but, checking wiki, it sounds like it was Scott Armstrong. But, for some reason, I recall it being Helms. Not sure either way. It was Helms. In his recent shoot he talked about how he was one of the last guys to talk to Benoit that weekend, and they talked more frequently than usual, which he thought was strange at the time and wished he'd thought more of it.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Aug 15, 2012 12:54:11 GMT -5
Sorry guys. The simplest answer is usually correct. I have been a cop for 14 yrs and this is almost always the truth. Police determined that Benoit killed his wife, son then himself. Because it has been investigated and adjudged you may call it a fact. It was never adjudged. I'm certainly not alleging that Benoit wasn't the perp or that WWE did it or whatever. But I'm betting a closer look might have revealed that the hacker knew someone who knew someone who heard the truth before it came out, or some version of the truth -- he doesn't have to be a WWE employee to hear second-hand information in Stamford. I knew the son of a lady who worked in the office of a very high-profile college football program as a secretary, and he told me lots of things before they became public. Maybe his best friend's mom was a secretary. Best I recall, he claimed to have been repeating info on the internet -- rumors from a wrestling site. Only he couldn't recall where he saw it and no one ever found such rumors posted BEFORE the bodies were found. I think there's more to this. I don't think the police wanted to complicate things. I think WWE had a lot to lose (and did lose a lot) and the fact that it was a call from WWE HQ that alerted authorities in Georgia to go check out the house to me raises some questions. Did you watch the interrogation videos in this thread?
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