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Post by Hammer Smashed Ball on Dec 2, 2011 1:16:36 GMT -5
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Post by ScottishProWrestling on Dec 2, 2011 4:32:58 GMT -5
So basically make UFC into WWE? Considering UFC are doing better than WWE are, i would just stick with the tried and tested.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 2, 2011 4:49:33 GMT -5
I don't even like UFC and I know most of those ideas are stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 4:51:08 GMT -5
Couldn't finish the slide show, as it was complete garbage. Tag Team MMA in a major league is ridiculous and has the potential to be a complete train wreck every single solitary time it would occur. It's hard enough scoring a singles fight, how the hell are they going to do a tag match? Completely stupid to change the octagon, which is huge in UFC advertising and, I dunno, has influenced an incredibly popular and time tested fighting style. And, yeah, the idea that MMA doesn't have stables... I mean, really?
Not a fan of the article ;D
Ok. I'll finish it. Apparently, the UFC doesn't give fans the ability to watch live events... ok, they don't tour but how the hell could they pull that off? Ticket prices are irrelevant because they'll sell out regardless of price. International events are getting there but, since they essentially have a monopoly on MMA on a major level, does it really matter if they don't tour around the world constantly? As it is, they have a global presence.
The cage causing injuries is bumpkiss, since you can't grab the cage anyway. I can only think of a handful of major slams coming from someone holding on to the cage as they're getting dropped. Can't comment on going public or merchandise, though I see UFC merchandise in stores all the time. Dunno about involving fans more.
I don't think you could have a marquee event given the nature of the UFC. As it is, the ability to create highly profitable events based on matches isn't WWE's specialty anyway, outside of Wrestlemania. I guess they could do a tournament style event or make sure that the titles are defended at one event but why bother?
At this point, UFC handles rivalries better than WWE. The idea that rematches aren't exciting but WWE doing the same match ups over and over again is somehow riveting is so asinine that I question how anyone could come up with that. As it is, UFC does it's best with personal storylines and rivalries anyway. Shamrock and Tito, Chuck and Tito say hi. The Ultimate Fighter fills that role anyway.
Different match styles is ludicrous. Outside of retirement, I don't know what kind of stips you could come up with. The HOF is so suspect in WWE that I really don't know what the point the article writer is trying to make. WWE doesn't have A-listers show up.
The most successful fighters have great personas: Couture as the grizzled, all American vet; Silva as the arrogant douche that can't be beat; Rampage as, essentially, a pro wrestler; Lesnar. UFC has eras defined by fighters...
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 2, 2011 4:55:24 GMT -5
There are a lot more things WWE could learn from UFC than vice versa.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 2, 2011 5:07:39 GMT -5
Tag Team MMA?
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Post by repomanfan on Dec 2, 2011 7:18:29 GMT -5
Stables? Are you kidding me? Who's gonna manage them; Slick, Bobby Heenan?
The internet really is full of idiots.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 2, 2011 7:26:56 GMT -5
Between this and the "People the Internet wont cricitize but I will" article, I'm convinced that BleacherReport are an elite group of trolls.
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Post by KLRA on Dec 2, 2011 10:17:16 GMT -5
Marquee event?
That would be Superbowl Weekend and the New Years show.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 10:22:56 GMT -5
I would consider watching UFC if some of these things happened.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 10:41:07 GMT -5
A few thoughts:
- They do have stables, but they are legit fighting camps.
- There are a ton of weight classes and titles because it is sanctioned by state athletic commissions that demand it. Even Dana White doesn't want that many weight classes.
- A face of the company for each era? Hasn't UFC had that?
- House shows? Why would legit fighters destroy their bodies and not do it for more money on tv?
- Get rid of the octagon? That's about the worst idea I've ever heard.
- The ads on said octagon make it look legit. Every other major sport has ads all over their arena too.
- Women's MMA in UFC? I actually agree they should do this, but I don't think it will happen until they officially get rid of Strikeforce.
- Tag team MMA is an interesting concept I'll admit.
- Yes the entrances could be a little flashier. That's one thing Strikeforce has always been better about.
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Post by repomanfan on Dec 2, 2011 10:45:32 GMT -5
A few thoughts: - They do have stables, but they are legit fighting camps. - There are a ton of weight classes and titles because it is sanctioned by state athletic commissions that demand it. Even Dana White doesn't want that many weight classes. - A face of the company for each era? Hasn't UFC had that? - House shows? Why would legit fighters destroy their bodies and not do it for more money on tv? - Get rid of the octagon? That's about the worst idea I've ever heard. - The ads on said octagon make it look legit. Every other major sport has ads all over their arena too. - Women's MMA in UFC? I actually agree they should do this, but I don't think it will happen until they officially get rid of Strikeforce. - Tag team MMA is an interesting concept I'll admit. - Yes the entrances could be a little flashier. That's one thing Strikeforce has always been better about. Tag team MMA? You gotta be flipping mad. And I agree with Cro Cop on this one, the ring gives it more of a sporting feel. But the octagon is probably safer. If you want tag team MMA, you gotta have a ring.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Dec 2, 2011 11:01:19 GMT -5
What an absolutely GARBAGE article. Bleacher Report is the toilet bowl of sports journalism.
1) Putting on fights every week burns your resources in terms of what fighters you have available.
2) Tag Team MMA is a joke. Its an exhibition event confined to Japanese Minor League MMA.
3) There aren't enough GOOD female fighters in any weight class for the top tier of MMA to form a division.
4) The ring is much more dangerous than the cage. Fedor/Cro Cop almost ended due to Fedor almost falling out. Plus the centre restarts ruin the flow of a fight.
5) The weightclass alignment is perfect in MMA.
6) One belt per division. No problems.
7) If anything having that many high profile sponsors is a good look.
8) While BTT vs Chute Boxe in PRIDE was a fun time, actively forcing the idea of "stables" screams trying too hard for an actual sport.
9) See #1
10) If the UFC weren't selling out so many places, this would be an issue.
11) Theyve expanded to Europe and Canada. Things are happening.
12) See the point about the ring.
13) The UFC is owned by the right people who have the right ideas and invest the right money.
14) I do think they could do a better job on merch, but with video games, replica belts, all the training gear, plus the BILLION MMA apparel companies, this isnt a huge issue.
15) More fan expos would be good.
16) They tried to make an End Of Year event in the same vein as Shockwave! but its hard to do when fighters can get injured.
17) No, just no. You cant manufacture a sport without sacrificing its integrity. Creating storylines does that. Plus a lot of MMA fans hate wrestling for the storybased nature.
18) Are you serious bro? Stipulation matches? Come on.
19) Absolutely. The WWE need a similar building.
20) I agree but on a smaller scale than the WWE. PRIDE were great for this.
21) WWE's celebrity whoring needs to stop. UFC's doesnt need to start.
22) Gimmicks are a relic of pro wrestling. Keep them out of MMA.
23) How many WWE fans are sick of their Twitter whoring? (BTW, Ive just been informed that "WWE Twitter Whoring" is now trending worldwide.)
24) St. Pierre? Liddell? Silva? Penn? Lesnar? Couture?
25) NO CHANCE IN HELL. A lot of fans dont want to be associated with the "fake" sport.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Dec 2, 2011 11:04:31 GMT -5
Tag Team MMA kind of reminds me of the Triple Threat Boxing match idea I came up with when I was seven.
Only my idea was awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 11:06:25 GMT -5
The list needs more tasers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 12:18:58 GMT -5
Bleacher Report seems to come up with something more ridiculous and stupid everyday
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 12:34:17 GMT -5
The very first sentence: "UFC seems to be cutting into WWE's market"
Really? Ya think so? Given they're annihilating them on ppv, yeah that's 'cutting into the market'
From there you have two or three legit, rational.obvious 'lessons' such as "more merchandise", which anyone could figure out in a sea of ludicrous suggestions to essentially make it a WWE clone.
What a dumb list.
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Post by KLRA on Dec 2, 2011 12:57:27 GMT -5
Speaking of entrances....with Mayhem's match on Saturday he could revolutionize the way the UFC does entrances.
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Post by corndog on Dec 2, 2011 13:38:26 GMT -5
I did like the weekly show idea, I really think the end of Tuesday Night Fights has hurt boxing and a weekly show would help casual fans to follow and get interested in the UFC. As far as holding weekly live events to support a tv show you don't need to do that, one live event would fufill a months worth of programming for a weekly cable tv show. Just look at how many matches don't make air for the ppvs, you could show those on the tv show. The show could feature three matches and then have promos, fighter profiles and interviews for upcoming matches. You could also show an old match a week that is related to an upcoming match to build interest for it.
I think the biggest problem with UFC is if you want to get into the product it is pretty much on yourself to get caught up and learn about the fighters, with a weekly tv show they can introduce you to the fighters and get you interested in them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 17:14:25 GMT -5
Between this and the "People the Internet wont cricitize but I will" article, I'm convinced that BleacherReport are an elite group of trolls. The people at Bleacher Report aren't elite about anything at all. Including trolling. Still, excellent responses from Helix The Community Fan, and BURY_US/DANIELSON. Your retorts make a thousand times more sense than the original article.
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