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Post by They Adam Bradley on Oct 13, 2012 0:59:44 GMT -5
but WWECW was after TNA..Why would Punk have went to TNA in the first place then? It doesn't matter on what level they were at, TNA was still the #2 company and gave punk greater exposure. You forget, they did have Xplosion then.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Oct 13, 2012 1:02:34 GMT -5
so your telling me when Punk was in TNA, ROH was above TNA? ROH was the 2nd biggest promotion in the country? Yes, TNA was completely different back then i understand that, but you still cant say ROH and TNA were "on par" Maybe ROH in 2012 and TNA in 2004 yes, but in 2004 ROH wasnt anywhere close to TNA.....If calling tna the #2 promotion is grossly overstating it's significance, then if not TNA..who was #2 in 2004?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 13, 2012 1:05:17 GMT -5
At the time TNA and RoH were pretty much equals...
After all, he didn't leave RoH to go to TNA. He and a lot of the other talent at the time worked both.
Punk left TNA to work RoH however when they made him choose between the two. So at least in Punk's mind RoH was bigger than TNA.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Oct 13, 2012 1:06:39 GMT -5
he went there for experience. even before the WWE dvd was made he's said numerous times he said he work wherever he could whenever he could. at that time TNA was a very small company with a very small audience, and exposure was very, very small
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Post by Ryanar on Oct 13, 2012 1:25:36 GMT -5
I don't agree with the girlfriend, tna sentiments. But i do agree the DVD is not that great. It feels like there is a giant hole in the doc that can't really be filled with nothing other than time spent in WWE. Its like they tried morphing Randy Orton and John Cena's DVD together and the formula didn't mesh that well because these "Changes" that get brought up towards the last 30 minutes never actually happened yet. That entire segment was just cringe worthy. Especially Triple H saying "He became the guy"
This "Opening doors for smaller guys" comment that gets thrown around is just such BS to me. Its thrown around to keep hope and keep the applicants coming in. The young upstarts will watch this DVD, feel hopeful, Get signed and spend the rest of their careers in development hell.
I also despised how Bryan pointed out that there are people on the roster who only do it for money. And they don't even want to wrestle on superstars. Why diss the lower card. Its a jerk move to say that mainly because there are people on Raw & Smackdown each week who obviously don't care and only do it for money. One of them has a "Destiny!", One of them has a giant fist, and the other is named Randy Orton. I know its wrong for me to say that looking from the outside in, but please support that opinion with a reason why ADR, Big Show, and Orton bore me to tears each week. When the so called guys who do it only for money Continue to entertain me on Superstars.
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Post by froggyfrog on Oct 13, 2012 1:46:48 GMT -5
I don't recall him doing anything in TNA worth a damn for it to be mentioned. Julio Dinero. Lol |
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Post by Starshine on Oct 13, 2012 1:47:31 GMT -5
why would his time in TNA be "Unneccsary" That was his first BIG nature exposure....and I dont know how many posts I have seen that say im wanting to know girls he banged, pretty sure i never used that word once. In the big picture, his whole TNA was nothing but a blip. He already talked about working with Raven so the only important part of it was already covered. And regardless of what words you exactly used, I personally don't see anything remotely interesting in hearing about his past relationships when compared to everything else he's been through. |
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Post by pepsitwist on Oct 13, 2012 4:53:30 GMT -5
In every promotion at the time, Punk was feuding with Raven. Yet, in TNA, they turned Punk into a Raven worshipping lackey for a few weeks. Then they turned them heel for no reason as an excuse for the company to bring in old ECW names. Nothing of note was ever gained working there.
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Post by flatsdomino on Oct 13, 2012 4:53:47 GMT -5
That read like a bottom-of-the-barrel Amazon review. Good job.
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Post by trollrogue on Oct 13, 2012 5:23:07 GMT -5
and insult me for my typing and grammar, It doesn't bother me nor does that have anything to do with the topic at hand.  Your main problem with the snarky responses comes from your insulting thread title. Saying that the Punk DVD "sucked" when obviously that's your own opinion and you KNEW that it was in the minority compared to everyone else on this board who think it's literally the "best DVD in the world" is gonna automatically put you in a rough position. You haven't really proved your point that the DVD sucks. The only thing you say is lacking are things that are considered by most to be 'gossip', hence most readers will not respect you enough to listen to what you have to say since your original hypothesis (the dvd sucking) is not at all adequately proven through debate/analysis/factual data. For the future, if you create a thread with the sole purpose of tearing down some piece of art or DVD or whatnot, prepare for a backlash if you can't argue your position. |
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Post by Hurbster on Oct 13, 2012 5:30:37 GMT -5
if it was a test, this dvd would have gotten a Failing grade ....but looking at your sig that would definitely get a 1 And for that, I'm posting a second time in this thread just so you can see it again. Thought it was kind of agreed never to post that picture again except in spoilers. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 13, 2012 6:19:35 GMT -5
Sorry but this is a "Look at me!!!" attention seeking thread. There's already a thread discussing the CM Punk dvd. The same thoughts the OP mentioned here could had easily been mentioned in the other one.
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Post by 543Y2J on Oct 13, 2012 6:23:48 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what you expected. It was every bit as good as Edge, Austin, and Rock's latest documentaries. |
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Post by Chip on Oct 13, 2012 7:30:10 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what you expected. It was every bit as good as Edge, Austin, and Rock's latest documentaries. Looking back it seems he wanted a Biography rather then a Documentary. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 7:45:20 GMT -5
I don't agree with the girlfriend, tna sentiments. But i do agree the DVD is not that great. It feels like there is a giant hole in the doc that can't really be filled with nothing other than time spent in WWE. Its like they tried morphing Randy Orton and John Cena's DVD together and the formula didn't mesh that well because these "Changes" that get brought up towards the last 30 minutes never actually happened yet. That entire segment was just cringe worthy. Especially Triple H saying "He became the guy" This "Opening doors for smaller guys" comment that gets thrown around is just such BS to me. Its thrown around to keep hope and keep the applicants coming in. The young upstarts will watch this DVD, feel hopeful, Get signed and spend the rest of their careers in development hell. I also despised how Bryan pointed out that there are people on the roster who only do it for money. And they don't even want to wrestle on superstars. Why diss the lower card. Its a jerk move to say that mainly because there are people on Raw & Smackdown each week who obviously don't care and only do it for money. One of them has a "Destiny!", One of them has a giant fist, and the other is named Randy Orton. I know its wrong for me to say that looking from the outside in, but please support that opinion with a reason why ADR, Big Show, and Orton bore me to tears each week. When the so called guys who do it only for money Continue to entertain me on Superstars. Yeah, both those comments kinda pissed me off as well. 1) Punk never was, and never will be, the guy. 2) I'm a huge Daniel Bryan fan. Huge. Seriously though, that was a really dumb comment, and frankly he didn't have the tenure to say it without coming off as a cocky dbag -- which he did. It caught me off-guard since he's such a nice and pleasant guy, but that was a stupid line. Though you could also add Khali and a few others names to that list, in all honesty. Honestly, to me, pretty much the entire documentary from OVW onwards seemed pretty off. The whole thing was "I was entrusted with a lot of stuff, and I got a lot of accolades, but they never put any stock in me!" It really was; if you disagree, go back and watch it again. I think Punk had an extremely heavy hand in the making of it, and it shows. I like him, but he came off as very over dramatic. I don't understand how anybody could be so bitter after earning their triple crown and three world titles in just as many years. They really glossed over that, though. The last few years of his WWE run seemed rushed, too, but I'm rambling. |
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Post by The Man That Sanity Forgot on Oct 13, 2012 9:57:19 GMT -5
Personally, I saw it as a documentary of his wrestling career rather than his whole life. That's why I thought certain things were left out. The necessary parts of his life that attributed to his career were left in, as far as I was concerned. He probably requested to have the TNA stuff left out as he felt it wasn't all that worthy. IWA-MS and ROH took center stage because that's where he was 'made'. I mean, when you talk about CM Punk on the smaller stage, it's hardly ever TNA you speak of.
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Post by WarChief on Oct 13, 2012 10:45:23 GMT -5
Nope, that big lawsuit with TNA is totally not the reason they didn't even mention it, not at all. Punk's time in TNA went over like a fart in an elevator, and did nothing for his career. Why even bother mentioning it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 10:55:56 GMT -5
I don't think it sucked but it left me wanting.
The issue with biography DVDs (that aren't similar to match sets like Edge's Decade of Decadence) is that unless they're done when the guys in ring career is over it will always rose-tint the end.
I don't blame them for not mentioning his love life because, well, I don't really care about it, but I'd loved to have seen more about stories in the indies beyond "I worked everywhere" and frankly I believe there wasn't enough focus on his in ring stuff in the WWE. Who he enjoyed working with (outside of Kofi), what the matches meant to his career etc.
At the end of the day it felt like two thirds of a documentary due to the fact his career isn't over, and only one non-WWE match on the bonuses mean that it's not worthy of a purchase to me given I own almost all of the other matches on existing DVDs.
It's solid (7/10 if I'm feeling generous) but can't touch Brian Pillman/Road Warriors/Austin's latest documentary, and the extras...yeah, they aren't great.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Oct 13, 2012 11:00:29 GMT -5
The amount of hate on the op is embarrassing.Jesus people. Can we not disagree without being a pack of c***s anymore?
he wanted more about his personal life?. I get that. It's info not readily available. Big hawk's was like half his personal life.
the tna thing though,yeah, no need for it.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Oct 13, 2012 11:01:26 GMT -5
I think his love life wasn't brought up in the documentary because none of the women really factored into the story they were telling. If Maria was his long-time valet or if his relationship with Lita was an important storyline, I could see including them. For Edge, a past relationship is the catalyst for a pivotal point in his career. For Randy Orton, marriage and a child is part of his "redemption story." However, with Punk I'm satisfied with the quote from his ex-girlfriend that he's "a better friend than a boyfriend" because it fits the narrative that Punks only true love is his work.
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