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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Oct 21, 2012 2:54:07 GMT -5
MAFIA WINS. All three mafia members survived. Here are the roles: Jonathan Michaels -- Screech -- Mafia -- Godfather{Spoiler} Who do Zack and the Gang think they are? If it weren't for you, Zack wouldn't be who he is today! You are the Mafia Godfather. You have two more members to assist you in ridding Bayside of Zack and friends, and finally you won't be made to feel guilty because of your intelligence! Each night, your group is able to kill one person. When investigated, you appear as town. You win when mafia outnumbers town.You can discuss the game with your Mafia brethren here during Night Phases: www.quicktopic.com/48/H/tUpha6ukBN89Y Street Spartan -- Violet Bickerstaff -- Mafia -- Roleblocker{Spoiler} Screech is your first love, and you will follow him even if it kills you! You can roleblock once per night. You win when mafia outnumbers town. You can discuss the game with your Mafia brethren here during Night Phases: www.quicktopic.com/48/H/tUpha6ukBN89Y Kami -- Mr. Belding -- Mafia -- Goon{Spoiler} Zack's been a thorn in your side all these years, and you jumped at the chance of ending his reign of tyranny over the school when Screech told you of his plans. You win when mafia outnumbers town. You can discuss the game with your Mafia brethren here during Night Phases: www.quicktopic.com/48/H/tUpha6ukBN89Y Queen Mab -- Zack Morris -- Vanilla Town -- Coolest Guy in School{Spoiler} You are Zack Morris. You are untouchable, or are you? Use your wit and charm to eliminate the killers of Becky and of your Zack Attack dreams! You win when only town members survive. Mr B Natural -- A.C. Slater -- Town -- Doctor{Spoiler} Needick! Hand them over! You are the town doctor, and can protect one person from being killed every night. You need to PM me with Protect: each night phase. You win when only town members survive. Produceman -- Kelly Kapowski -- Town -- Most Popular Girl in School -- Double Voter{Spoiler} Since you're the most popular girl in school, you have more influence than the other town members. You are able to place two votes in each day phase; one in public, and one directly to me. Both votes do not have to be used toward the same person. Please PM me during day phase with your second vote. You win when only town members survive. Mason -- Jessie Spano -- Vanilla Town -- Enviromentalist {Spoiler} Becky's death has affected you deeply, and you want to remove the mafia from your school as quickly as possible since you have an anti-oil drilling rally to attend! You win when only town members survive. Evil M -- Lisa Turtle -- Town -- Cop{Spoiler} You are the Bayside Gossip Mill! You are able to investigate one person a night and find out if they are mafia or town. PM me each night phase with Investigate: and you will receive word that they are either town or mafia. You win when only town members survive. Cageking -- Max -- Vanilla Town -- Owner of the Max{Spoiler} You were just trying to see if Mr. Belding was open to doing a Tiger Radio Telethon to help raise funds to stop the Max from closing. Again. How did you get stuck in these wacky situations? You win when only town members survive. lodirulz -- Tori Scott -- Vanilla Town -- New Girl in School{Spoiler} With your biker jacket in tow, you are ready to help out the gang find the killer, even if it means missing Mrs. Belding's childbirth. You win when only town members survive. Double H -- Stacy Carosi -- Vanilla Town -- Summer Love{Spoiler} Who is Becky? When did Zack start up a band? Why aren't you at Malibu Sands spending time with Craig Strand? No one knows! But we do know that you are in love with Zack, and came to visit Bayside because of that. Who knew you would be locked inside the school grounds while murderers are on the loose? You win when only town members survive. Mafia Discussion can be found here: www.quicktopic.com/48/H/tUpha6ukBN89YGood game guys! I really liked how it went... did notice some things that I can change next time around. I was really pulling for a mafia lynch on the last day... town was so close. Hope it was enjoyable for you guys!
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Oct 21, 2012 2:56:02 GMT -5
I wanted to make a longer write up at the end, but I also wanted you go guys to have the results... been a busy weekend for me.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 21, 2012 2:58:48 GMT -5
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Post by TOO SWEET on Oct 21, 2012 2:59:31 GMT -5
Honestly, it was closer than it reflects with all three of us surviving. If they got one of us, I really believe the pieces may have fell into place against us. Because it seemed like Kami and Jono were showing up on a lot of mafia list, and I could only stay under the radar for so long. EDIT:
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 21, 2012 3:01:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Oct 21, 2012 3:04:06 GMT -5
Woohoo!!!
The Entire Mafia Survives!
Screech Achieves His Goal!!!!!
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Oct 21, 2012 3:05:24 GMT -5
So Dub H was Leah Remeni the whole time?
No wonder I wanted you dead.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 21, 2012 3:06:50 GMT -5
So Dub H was Leah Remeni the whole time? No wonder I wanted you dead. I guess it was meant to be from the beggining ;D AND I TOLD YOU GUYS!So next time i point out that someone is mafia,you guys better believe me! i will smack every single one of you when we reach heaven.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Oct 21, 2012 3:09:09 GMT -5
So Dub H was Leah Remeni the whole time? No wonder I wanted you dead. I guess it was meant to be from the beggining ;D AND I TOLD YOU GUYS!So next time i point out that someone is mafia,you guys better believe me! i will smack every single one of you when we reach heaven. If it makes you feel better, I believed you.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Oct 21, 2012 3:10:32 GMT -5
And actually, Brad, I did cast the winning vote.
Hence the avatar.
But yes, we were actually considering sacrificing Brad since people were suspecting him after the second day.
That's why I pushed the pair of Mab and Brad, knowing if we lynched Mab we won and if we lynched Brad, I was "confirmed" town.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 21, 2012 3:10:45 GMT -5
I guess it was meant to be from the beggining ;D AND I TOLD YOU GUYS!So next time i point out that someone is mafia,you guys better believe me! i will smack every single one of you when we reach heaven. If it makes you feel better, I believed you. No,it doesn't make me feel better i am already planning your lynch for the next mafia,i don't care if you will be town or not
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 21, 2012 3:20:17 GMT -5
I was sure I was going to get lynched this day phase very surprised all three of us survived.
So whats the word on me starting the next small Mafia Game? I already got the topic ready just need to hit "post message" and its underway, I hate to start it if people would get mad at me for doing another Small Mafia game but no one else has their Mafia game "ready" and if you read the FAN Hosting topic I agreed to wait a few months before I start the DBZ: Abridged Mafia to let the Large games die down a little but keep the small games around so we can still have a mafia game around here.
If no one has a problem with me starting WWF '88 Mafia I even plan on changing my username to Gorilla Bradsoon as Gorilla would be the host of the game like Kami would of been the host of DBZ: Abridged.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 21, 2012 3:29:55 GMT -5
I don't know much about WWE 88 since i am quite young,but would be fun.
I myself wanted to do a holiday special Halloween Mafia
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 21, 2012 3:34:05 GMT -5
Maybe you could do the next Small game Double H since I've been waiting for months to do DBZ: Abridged and since the participation in large games has gone down a lot recently I think its only fair that I get to do WWF '88 Mafia since I have been waiting for so long.
I'm just going to start the topic now and if anybody wants to yell at me feel free to.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 21, 2012 3:34:59 GMT -5
But by then it won't be halloween anymore
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 21, 2012 3:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 21, 2012 3:39:07 GMT -5
Also Halloween will be over in another week so the game would still be going while Halloween is long gone know what I mean?
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Oct 21, 2012 11:10:46 GMT -5
First of all. I LOVED that I was Zack Morris. I was hoping I'd get to be Mr. Coolest Kid in School. I hinted I was him a few times, haha. Second: I love that I was town aligned, even vanilla is good for me to test out my rusty gameplay. I always prefer the town side of the game. I find the sleuthing aspect much more fun than the deception play of the mafia side. I just don't like playing as mafia, even if it's easier for me to win there. I'm just not good at lying/deceiving and it scares me to try and hide from a hungry town, lol. Third: I appreciate the mafia letting me play rather than killing me off right away. I love SBTB and I wanted to play it out as Zack in full, even in a losing effort. I hope I get to live long in future games too. >_< I am so stupid for not removing my vote after Produceman revealed himself as Kelly Kapowski. I think I woud've after coming home later that night after what I said about "Violet is probably scum, because Nerdstrom died," but scum beat me to a quick-lynch and hammer before I could. If Violet was scum, Kelly probably wasn't and It would have to be the nerdy people like Screech and Belding. The other option was Zack's girlfriends, (Yes check my Zack-Ego, lol) of Kelly, Stacy and Tori as the mafia wanting Zack and his friends dead. Of course it had to be the nerds, haha. -------------- I told JoNo was mafia a hundred times! WHY NO ONE EVER LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY!If we weren't all DEAD already,I would kill you guys myself! I am a good detective,but bad at making people see my way .On the music mafia i guessed Latino Meat was Mafia(And he was the i think).And no one listened to me! I hope you guys are happy you made Stacy cry Yeah, you were pretty good at this. You, along with Lodirulz were the only two people I didn't suspect at all. You actually were pretty convincing to me and I almost voted with you toward Jonathan on Day #2. You weren't bad at making people see your way, don't feel bad. You're awesome and getting really good at this game, on the town side especially.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Oct 21, 2012 11:56:00 GMT -5
Kami - Gosh, he's really good at pretending to be a indecisive/nervous townie (Which I thought that Mr. B was pretending to do). Something about the way he words/phrases things in his tone. I should have seen that because he was like that in Batman mafia and Mr. B was like that in Batman mafia as well. Both were Scum and Town respectively in this game as well. But I didn't look at it until later. I thought he was town because he said he was Belding and I thought Belding would be a town roleblocker, because of his 'My office, now!" detentioning, due to this little excerpt from Kami: I got to comment on this part write here which backs up my last post. Zack Morris Is Insane had told me he was going to run this like I ran Garfield Mafia and not give away any power roles during the write ups I think the only thing that will be revealed in the write ups is who the mafia killed. This revealed to me that Brad had some sort of night ability that he didn't want the write-ups to show. Should have known it was mafia after his super scummy day #2 play. Jonathan - Man this one was really scummy all the way until the post responding to my vote on Day #3. He showed every sign of scum there was, but I was too distracted by Produce and Mr. B when it was *right there* in front of me. I even made a post explaining his incredible scummy-ness, linking him to Brad here, but second guessing always hurt me before so I was scared to second guess myself about Produce again when I should of! : The odds of both Kami and Mab both being town are staggeringly low, considering they were involved in both lynches, especially since someone else, Mason I believe, was as well and turned out to be town, so three people voting in both lynches all being town just doesn't seem possible. My thinking is that our mafia is Mab, who led one of the lynches, Produceman, for the reasons Spartan stated, and Double H. Frankly, the reason I'm falling in on the Mab side is that Kami is voting to lynch Produceman, who I suspect of being mafia, I think scum voting for scum is far too risky a play for them at this point, which gives me a good level of confidence that he's not scum. So... Vote: Queen MabI honestly think this is our best shot. Time out. These reasons are poor and a bit weird in parts.- Jonathan felt most strongly about Kami and Queen Mab as mafia, because we voted for both lynches. (Not a good case, because town could definitely do the exact same thing as well, as seen by MasonK.) Now all of a sudden Jonathan has gained this new found "strong good level of confidence" for Kami being town for simply voting Produceman. That right there is *super-de-duper* eye-brow raising.I could very well do the same exact thing and then this justification for Kami being town and me being totally scum would be flawed. Heck, as I've said before, after the Mr. G lynch, Produceman was probably the person I was likely going to go for today, for reasons I gave in this post. - The fact that is now making me second guess, is that Jonathan also agrees that Produceman is mafia like Kami and Queen Mab do, but then he votes for Queen Mab instead, for what was stated above [Queen Mab is scum cause: 1) Voted both lynches! 2) Unvoted and is Aligned with Produceman!] #2 is especially head-shaking, because it is incredibly stupid to bring unneeded attention to Produceman on Day #2, if he is my supposed scum buddy. Notice I was the first to suspect that guy, pretty indepth I might add which Street Spartan restates above. ( Here again). Those (JoNo, Produceman) are my top two suspects too. One is definitely mafia (unless we really are all townies tearing into each other). The fact that more people are going after Produceman more strongly than Jonathan makes me wonder if that's right, as well as his last post, as I stated above. If Produceman isn't mafia after the lynch, then yeah it's Jonathan Michaels who's the winning scum I'd say, with possible partner Kami/Brad, due to the sudden 'confidence' in him being town, along with one of the Day #1 Non-Voters. It'll be too late by then, but I wanted to share anyway. Yeah, I knew exactly who that last mafia member was if the Jonathan/Kami link was true, Spartan of course. I knew something was up with him the most out of all non-voters, which is why I brought his name up earlier. Street Spartan: Played a great utr game. He went with the flow just like the two above, but did so quietly. Probably cause he didn't vote the first day... but the (I'll vote later!) thing really made me raise an eyebrow at first, but others were scummier. Street Spartan pretty much didn't make *any* waves and was completely off the radar, which clued me in as he was adopting a more stay back and watch play rather than being any sort of proactive and suggesting anything of his own. It's why I mentioned him on day #3. To be honest I wanted to lynch him, but I had nothing strong enough to lynch him on day #3. I linked him to either Produce and Jono, so I wanted to see what both would say about him. I wanted to flip one of Produce and Jono first and then before the lynch say "Oh btw - Spartan is this guys' partner" lol. To be fair, Spartan was super believable as a townie when he went after produceman the way he did with Double H on the last moment on day #3. Totally bought into that part. The link between the three scum came into mind when I was noticing that Spartan/Jono left each other alone for the most part and Spartan/Kami as well, except the character thing. I thought to myself on day #3, perhaps Spartan didn't like Kami revealing his character, due to them being mafia maybe and didn't want to lose due to people revealing roles. Kami/Jono against each other made me think other wise though... Until that whole Jono suddenly feels *STRONGLY THAT KAMI IS TOWN* after going after him and unvoting after Kami voted produce, which was ridiculously scummy. I'm stupid for not seeing that and going with the evidence there. ----------------- Things we've learned: 1.) Notice all 3 mafia laid low and went with the flow, until the very end where they could control the vote much easier. That's when they suddenly got reaaaaallly active/vocal. Watch out for these things in the future! 2.) Participate! Town loses when there isn't a strong vocal group there. All 3 mafia here were tough as hell to thwart because of strong activity. 3.) Mafia are likely to throw their own guys under the bus if they have to! 4.) Someone "leading" a mislynch is a stupid reason to say somebody is scum, as I said with my rant. Townies are pushing discussion and make mistakes, you discourage discussion this way, while let the quiet people following the flow pass. Mafia will use this against the player whenever they like - attempting to push all responsibility onto that person. Looks at this page: officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=forumgames&action=display&thread=451105&page=19Just look at Spartan/JoNo and my responses to them. They were "confused" to try and make me look suspicious and wanted me to decide for them so they could put all responsibility on me. Looks like JoNo tried to do exactly that when he voted Produceman huh. Mafia just don't usually start lynches. They can as you've seen with Kami and JoNo on his vote for me (this is why I backed off slightly off both), but usually they don't like to as it puts too much attention on them. Here's the Rant: {Spoiler}How is voting on CK first while everyone piled on their votes considered "leading" the lynches. Multiple people have been putting all responsibility on me for day 1 and day 2's lynches and it's starting to really annoy me. You guys jumped onto those wagons on your own. I didn't force you people to vote for who you did. As I said before, I laid down my suspicions and it was your choices to put the votes where you did. You folk are equally responsible, townie or scum.
I swear, everytime I play this game, I am painted as some kind of master manipulator tricking the town to vote for my every whim. I push along the discussion and thus receive the blame. While the ones attempting to blend in and nod their heads "I agree!" are excused. Think about it people. 5.) If you're a Vanilla Townie, you have nothing to lose. Go out there full force, make decisions/discussion. 6.) Check for possible links between people. Don't depend on it though, as your links might be wrong. Though it's better than no links at all. 7.) If you're on a verge of a lynch feel free to character-claim or if even more urgent and last resort, role-claim. It could help you, but it's a case by case thing. You don't want to nullify your role, if you have a vigilante role for example. The character claim by Produce of Kelly almost saved him, for example. If there was some more time, I think I even might have unvoted him after thinking about the whole Violet being scum thing. Mr. B perhaps could've saved himself this way if there wasn't a quick lynch on him. Using flavor this way is fine, just make sure when the right time to do so. 8.) Listen to all possibilities and open your mind, not close it. At the same time you have to narrow down and make decision though. Find the right balance and stay confident. 9.) Watch out for quick-lynches and piling of votes. A strong mafia tactic. ----------------------------- XD So yeah, I should have second guessed my second guessing, but man the scum played off each other pretty well I think. Individually, they were scummy as hell, but as a group they shrouded themselves in mystery and played off some reasonable doubt to me. Normally, I'd probably give an award to a player on each faction, but this mafia was definitely a group award. Awesome job guys. Town MVP: Double H. He played really well this go around and I really underestimated him before. Produceman did well too, though. He was right about alot of this, but small things harmed him. Though to be fair I blame it on mafia play rust (you and me both, >_<).
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Oct 21, 2012 12:04:52 GMT -5
*Ring-Ring* Sorry Gang! I need to get that. *Pulls out the Clunky Brick phone* What? Scum Hammered? We lost? Against the nerds? Oh man that's a downer. Time Out!Well. Here I am, the preppy, coolest kid in all of Bayside, Zack Morris on Saved By The Bell Day #3! And What A Shocker! *Presses button on the remote* The Lynch: Kelly. Kapowski.Guess this brain isn’t Stansbury material after all. Oh well. Now time to save this pretty face and I don't mean Kelly's. *Runs away from a Zack-Attack* Time in! -------------------- I'm sad there's yet another mafia win though, I hope town can win many more eventually! Come on townies of the future, you can do it!
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