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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Nov 24, 2012 19:37:09 GMT -5
AKA "why can't Del Rio get over?" It's certainly not his in-ring skills; I'd argue the guy is one of the best in-ring talents they have. He has great ring psychology and good physical psychology too (non-verbal emoting). I doubt his biggest problem is his lack of mic skills; he's not the best talker, but he's not exactly the worst either.
What is it about him? Is it just his character; there are quite a few stale guys in the company who seem to get a better reaction than he does, though. Is it that he was just pushed too hard out the gate? What are your theories as to his present problem and what, if anything, WWE could do to deal with it?
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Post by Krimzon on Nov 24, 2012 19:39:00 GMT -5
The title of this thread would be the worst episode of the Big Bang Theory ever.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Nov 24, 2012 19:43:17 GMT -5
Honestly I feel that the character is stale, and his ring announcer is more over than him sadly. They need to play him up like a Mexican Million Dollar Man not the new super aggressive Del Rio.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 24, 2012 19:43:32 GMT -5
I think it's just his character. Supposedly he's rich even though we see no proof of it and he's a jerk that seem to slack off every few months since he has to turn up the intensity 3 or 4 times a year. No one really knows anything about him. How/why does he have money, why doesn't he try to use it to his advantage, why is Ricardo still with him despite being abused so much?
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Post by Burst on Nov 24, 2012 19:44:09 GMT -5
I honestly just think he was given a character that doesn't really work and doesn't really have anywhere to easily go.
Even though there has been many a case made that arrogant and snooty is closer to his real personality, it seems like he MUCH preferred playing the babyface as Dos Caras Jr, but at the same time he doesn't want to sign away the mask et al to WWE.
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Post by BigBadZ on Nov 24, 2012 19:46:05 GMT -5
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Post by Indiana Miz on Nov 24, 2012 19:47:35 GMT -5
They've taken away pretty much everything about his gimmick. Now he's just an angry guy with his own announcer who drives different cars to the arena. Combine that with his repetitive booking, and it's not hard to see why most people don't care.
I'm still a fan, I just hate the way his character has gone.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 24, 2012 19:53:34 GMT -5
The character is boring.
His promos are boring.
His gimmick is boring.
His feuds are boring.
He is a very good wrestler but it's hard to be interested in his matches when I'm not interested in the man himself. He needs revamping somehow... make him a drugs baron or have it revealed that he's importing slaves from Malaysia to work at his mansion... anything to make him more interesting.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 24, 2012 19:56:35 GMT -5
They've taken away pretty much everything about his gimmick. Now he's just an angry guy with his own announcer who drives different cars to the arena. Combine that with his repetitive booking, and it's not hard to see why most people don't care. I'm still a fan, I just hate the way his character has gone.
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Post by Arrow on Nov 24, 2012 19:59:19 GMT -5
He seems to lack charisma of any kind. That's the issue. All the technical skill in the world won't save you if you can't make fans care about what you do.
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Post by BHB on Nov 24, 2012 20:02:23 GMT -5
His Ted Dibiase rip-off gimmick doesn't suit him at all and is going nowhere. He desperately needs a gimmick overhaul.
As an aside, i'd like to see him switch to tights - not many people wear them and his current gold/white gear is dull and ugly.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Nov 24, 2012 20:04:57 GMT -5
He never really has had a storyline.
The only "stories" (if you can call them that) that he has had are "I'm going after the title because it's my DESTINY!" and the ole' attack the babyface from behind to start a feud. They keep teasing something with Rosa every 6 months or so, maybe it'll actually go somewhere this time but I'm doubting that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2012 20:05:38 GMT -5
Seems to me that he should be one of the easier characters to write for: everyone hates super rich guys that stomp on the little guy, so have him pay off refs, use his wealth to gain favor from the mysterious board of directors, have him smuggle in other Mexicans to do his bidding against their will, give him a hot Latina that he mistreats.
Instead he's just completely and utterly boring. He does nothing for anyone.
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Post by Rican on Nov 24, 2012 20:17:23 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio should be a spanish telenovela star. Air scenes from his international hit show "El Amor Prohibido" before his matches complete with overly dramatic plots and cheesy overacting. Him, Ricardo, Rosa Mendes, Primo, Epico, one of the spanish announcers and Mason Ryan (who speaks entirely in Welsh for some reason) are the stars.
A million buys.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Nov 24, 2012 20:22:33 GMT -5
Booking Wise:
Well, everything is wrong with how he's booked. They took away a lot of his characteristics, his feuds are whack, etc. etc.
Wrestling wise:
He still wrestles like he's Dos Caras Jr. His moveset looks cleaner than just about every face in the locker room. It plays into his personal background, but not into his character.
He needs a move overhaul.
The character can still work, but the booking of Del Rio, and how Del Rio engages his matches need to change.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Nov 24, 2012 20:27:16 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio should be a spanish telenovela star. Air scenes from his international hit show "El Amor Prohibido" before his matches complete with overly dramatic plots and cheesy overacting. Him, Ricardo, Rosa Mendes, Primo, Epico, one of the spanish announcers and Mason Ryan (who speaks entirely in Welsh for some reason) are the stars. A million buys. Oh my, YES!
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Nov 24, 2012 20:34:57 GMT -5
Maybe he should be like a reverse JBL chase Americans away from the Mexican Border
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Post by deadstock on Nov 24, 2012 20:45:51 GMT -5
Turn him into Ra a Ghul .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2012 21:03:05 GMT -5
It's not hard to turn Del Rio into a great character. First thing, the most obvious one, is for him to play up his money. He's rich but he only uses it to buy expensive cars and drive them to the ring? Come on now. All rich characters abuse their money, Del Rio isn't doing it. Yeah he used Wade as a bodyguard but that's it? Have Del Rio pay off refs, buy a new title for himself, have him pay for bodyguards hell have him pay someone in the Board of Directors for new title shots, new matches and match re-dos with ridiculous stipulations. It would give him serious heat.
Next you put him with Rosa (finally) and then you can even add Epico and Primo as his other lackeys. Have a pure stable for him. He deserves one after the time he's put in I'd say. Rosa being with him would anger people as well. Have Del Rio be less of the "aggressive Del Rio" and more of the rich guy who pays to get his work done and then when he has his matches he shows his true self off. You can even give him segments showing off his money like the Money in the Bank promo.
It would be golden but if only they utilized that.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 24, 2012 21:13:04 GMT -5
I would book him like a modern day Col. DeBeers myself, instead of a modern day Ted DiBiase. No, not the over racist stuff; but have him refuse to wrestle people he feels are below him in status(playing off the original gimmick somewhat).
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