BigJerichool222
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Jan 16, 2012 23:21:50 GMT -5
Ryder kicking out of TWO Gutwrench Powerbombs while injured was beyond ridiculous. There's no excuse for that; no amount of "protection" for that loss justifies it.
One finisher? Fine, I can go with that. But TWO. It's overkill and stupid. Zack Ryder is not John Cena.
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Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jan 16, 2012 23:22:50 GMT -5
You're right, he isn't John Cena, because John Cena would have won that match given the same scenario.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Jan 16, 2012 23:23:14 GMT -5
I didn't watch RAW but I heard he got no offense in and the match didn't even go 3 minutes. That doesn't really sound like Cena Superman booking.
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Post by Ricky Nightshade on Jan 16, 2012 23:23:16 GMT -5
Hey at least he didn't win.
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Post by MGH on Jan 16, 2012 23:23:32 GMT -5
I honestly thought that they decided his ankle lock was his real finisher so they were downplaying the gut wrench like just another move in his arsenal. They've done that with guys before.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 16, 2012 23:24:00 GMT -5
It's not like Swagger is credible at all. He's a complete joke and it makes sense he cannot beat people, even injured ones.
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Post by moneyman20 on Jan 16, 2012 23:24:41 GMT -5
I disagree. He should have looked he had a lot of heart in that match as the face, and he did. I have no problem with it.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jan 16, 2012 23:25:30 GMT -5
I honestly thought that they decided his ankle lock was his real finisher so they were downplaying the gut wrench like just another move in his arsenal. They've done that with guys before. Like Kurt Angle and the Angle Slam before him. After a certain point it just became a transition move.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Jan 16, 2012 23:25:41 GMT -5
After he kicked out the 2nd time, I actually wrote "super Ryder!", and thought he would sneak the win, but then he was pinned about 10 seconds later.
Maybe he should've only kicked out of one if he had to. But yeah, it was essentially a squash anyway.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 16, 2012 23:25:50 GMT -5
I only would have found it to be too much had Ryder come back to win.
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Post by Krimzon on Jan 16, 2012 23:25:51 GMT -5
I was shocked by that myself. I was thinking "Did they downgrade the Swagger Jacker or something? Ryder ain't that boss yet. He ain't no Kane @ WM 14." No way it should take three Swagger Jackers to take out an injured Zack Ryder.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 16, 2012 23:26:00 GMT -5
I was pretty angry at the time as well.
At least the third got him; but yeah, him kicking outta two was stupid. I get the 'him showing heart they were going for', but to take three finishers when you're not Cena/Orton/etc is a bit much.
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Post by modestgenius on Jan 16, 2012 23:27:35 GMT -5
Kayfabe: Jack Swagger wasn't giving the move full force as he thought he had Ryder easily beat (and Swagger isn't a sadist heel, just annoying cocky) which is why it took 3
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Post by percymania on Jan 16, 2012 23:29:28 GMT -5
I was fine with it. They looked brutal, but that's partly due to Zack's great selling. I didn't even know this was Swagger's finisher. Is it really?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 23:30:31 GMT -5
Kayfabe: Jack Swagger wasn't giving the move full force as he thought he had Ryder easily beat (and Swagger isn't a sadist heel, just annoying cocky) which is why it took 3 That's kind of how I took it. Besides we've seen far worse than that with other wrestlers. With Ryder we know he's the underdog, he has a lot of heart and he's a favorite, he's just that guy now. Be glad he's not Cena who I'm sure would have kicked out or something. Also I figured the Ankle Lock was more of his finisher these days anyway. I didn't think Swagger actually wanted to "break him" during then either.
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Jan 16, 2012 23:32:52 GMT -5
I was fine with it. They looked brutal, but that's partly due to Zack's great selling. I didn't even know this was Swagger's finisher. Is it really? He used it to pin Orton clean, so yeah.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 16, 2012 23:33:08 GMT -5
It's not like Swagger is credible at all. He's a complete joke and it makes sense he cannot beat people, even injured ones.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Jan 16, 2012 23:34:00 GMT -5
Zack Ryder is not John Cena. Yet. If he keeps Super Rydering through matches even when he loses, he'll be soon enough.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 16, 2012 23:35:26 GMT -5
He was wearing Cena's Hall of Fame ring.
From the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 23:39:28 GMT -5
I love how every resiliant baby face is immediately called "Super ____ " now...
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