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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Jan 14, 2012 11:53:09 GMT -5
Kind of bummed out about that but I understand.
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Post by Krazee on Jan 14, 2012 11:57:24 GMT -5
f*** you vince
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Post by Bobeddy on Jan 14, 2012 12:11:43 GMT -5
Not surprised. Day before a major PPV and very little to no chance of a plug out of it. No reason for it. Eh but still let the man do it, it's just one night I know it says 'card subject to change' but if I'm going to a house show the day before one of the biggest shows of the year, I'd be pretty disappointed if the WWE Champion was advertised and wasn't there.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 14, 2012 13:10:28 GMT -5
Bummed about it, but I can see why they did it(And not because Rogan, Dana or anyone else would have bad mouth it because they wouldn't have.)
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Post by redpyramidsh on Jan 14, 2012 14:11:00 GMT -5
Sonnen will have other matches, do this when Punk doesn't have a strap and all the obligations that come with it on him.
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Post by molson5 on Jan 14, 2012 14:13:29 GMT -5
Sonnen will have other matches, do this when Punk doesn't have a strap and all the obligations that come with it on him. Right, I think if Punk was still an ECW midcarder Vince would see it as worthwhile - one of his up and coming guys as supporting player on a big stage. But it's beneath the WWE champion. At least, I understand that perspective.
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Post by moneyman20 on Jan 14, 2012 14:17:29 GMT -5
Sonnen will have other matches, do this when Punk doesn't have a strap and all the obligations that come with it on him. Right, I think if Punk was still an ECW midcarder Vince would see it as worthwhile - one of his up and coming guys as supporting player on a big stage. But it's beneath the WWE champion. At least, I understand that perspective. It obviously wasn't below Taker to walk out with Manny Pacquiao. I don't see how it would be below Punk to walk the Real World's Middleweight Champion out. BTW, where is this idea that Joe Rogan somehow hates pro wrestling? On top of all the things mentioned above, he's also said in interviews that he was a HUGE Ric Flair fan.
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Post by redpyramidsh on Jan 14, 2012 14:18:12 GMT -5
Oh I don't think it has anything to do with being beneath the champ or anything. Punk is obligated to do a house show as the WWE champion, it's as simple as that.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 14, 2012 15:51:56 GMT -5
Oh I don't think it has anything to do with being beneath the champ or anything. Punk is obligated to do a house show as the WWE champion, it's as simple as that. But Vince isn't with the times, I tells ya! He is afraid UFC will make fun of CM Punk and Vince's old man suits!
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 14, 2012 16:13:49 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with the house show. Vince already agreed to give Punk the night off from it weeks ago. It's just Vince being Vince.
And the best part is Punk was told not to attend as a spectator, either. Here's where being an "Independent Contractor" gets hypocritical. Now if you don't mind me, I'm going to go tell my gardener he can't go watch Disney on Ice, just because.
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Post by zeez on Jan 14, 2012 16:31:50 GMT -5
Dammit Grandpa Vince! You never let us have any fun.
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 14, 2012 17:10:41 GMT -5
Here's what today's Wrestling Observer free news update said about the situation:
It is extremely unlikely that C.M. Punk will be walking Chael Sonnen to the octagon on the 1/28 show in Chicago. Punk, in fact, has been told that he shouldn't even be at the show.
Front Row Brian, a noted poster on message boards including ours, who broke all aspects of this story from the beginning, first noted yesterday that Punk was told by Vince McMahon that he couldn't walk Sonnen to the ring and that he didn't want him at the show.
Punk also confirmed to Ariel Helwani yesterday that he would not be allowed to walk Sonnen to the ring. We contacted two people very close to the situation, one who noted that officially nothing was 100% but that they would be surprised if it happened.
The other noted that Punk got the official word yesterday after pretty much being told on Monday, and described it as Vince just being in one of his moods.
Punk and Sonnen had become friends, which makes sense given that Punk is a pro wrestler who overachieved from a marketing standpoint including by learning from MMA, and Sonnen is an MMA fighter who overachieved from a marketing standpoint from learning from pro wrestling. Sonnen had asked Punk to accompany him since it was in Chicago, and Punk and Sonnen both got it cleared.
But when it became a news story, WWE had a change of heart.
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Post by joebob27 on Jan 14, 2012 18:01:57 GMT -5
LOL, this has all the earmarks of Trips getting involved and getting in Vince's ear.
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Post by moneyman20 on Jan 14, 2012 18:05:58 GMT -5
Here's what today's Wrestling Observer free news update said about the situation: It is extremely unlikely that C.M. Punk will be walking Chael Sonnen to the octagon on the 1/28 show in Chicago. Punk, in fact, has been told that he shouldn't even be at the show.
Front Row Brian, a noted poster on message boards including ours, who broke all aspects of this story from the beginning, first noted yesterday that Punk was told by Vince McMahon that he couldn't walk Sonnen to the ring and that he didn't want him at the show.
Punk also confirmed to Ariel Helwani yesterday that he would not be allowed to walk Sonnen to the ring. We contacted two people very close to the situation, one who noted that officially nothing was 100% but that they would be surprised if it happened.
The other noted that Punk got the official word yesterday after pretty much being told on Monday, and described it as Vince just being in one of his moods.
Punk and Sonnen had become friends, which makes sense given that Punk is a pro wrestler who overachieved from a marketing standpoint including by learning from MMA, and Sonnen is an MMA fighter who overachieved from a marketing standpoint from learning from pro wrestling. Sonnen had asked Punk to accompany him since it was in Chicago, and Punk and Sonnen both got it cleared.
But when it became a news story, WWE had a change of heart. Wouldn't that be a reason to let it happen? Because it's a news story and because it's gotten attention? Something ain't right about that.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jan 14, 2012 18:11:09 GMT -5
LOL, this has all the earmarks of Trips getting involved and getting in Vince's ear. Yes, because I'm sure HHH's ego is so huge that he'd stop something happening JUST to stroke his ego. /sarcasm
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Post by moneyman20 on Jan 14, 2012 18:12:08 GMT -5
LOL, this has all the earmarks of Trips getting involved and getting in Vince's ear. Why would HHH have anything to do with this?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 14, 2012 18:42:10 GMT -5
You probably wouldn't even see him on tv anyway, nor would Rogan acknowledge him, so it'd be like "OMG LOOK IT'S PUNK!" and nothing else so who gives a shit really?
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Post by bigrick0016 on Jan 14, 2012 19:48:04 GMT -5
Maybe the problem lies with Sonnen being a very controversial guy, with the money laundering conviction and the whole synthetic testosterone thing
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Post by Long Live the Stream on Jan 14, 2012 19:52:32 GMT -5
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jan 14, 2012 19:53:00 GMT -5
Maybe the problem lies with Sonnen being a very controversial guy, with the money laundering conviction and the whole synthetic testosterone thing Huh. This is actually a good point. Say he did something else wrong, it wouldn't look good for WWE to have the current/former champion associated with that.
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