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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 4, 2013 17:20:42 GMT -5
I think Zack Ryder has become rather embarrassing. While I give the guy an incredible amount of props and respect for doing his damndest to get somewhere, I think he sucks I like the guy. I want the guy to succeed, but the gimmick is very flimsy and lacks any sort of depth. He's a goofball with ugly colors and a weak gimmick, but his whining is now getting annoying. The positives are that he's alright in the ring, really wants it, and has some talent. He's just not getting there as the "Broski". I voted really sad.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 4, 2013 17:25:01 GMT -5
I wrote this in the other Zack Ryder thread, but I think his Broski/WWWYKI character is pretty good, his only real problem is that he's now pigeonholed into being "That Internet Guy".
I've seen other posters actually compare Zack Ryder to The Miz. A dorky metrosexual ascended fanboy with a terrible catchphrase and somewhat generic in the ring. Maybe Ryder will replicate the Miz's success and move up the card while still retaining some Bro characteristics, just like The Miz did.
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 4, 2013 17:32:34 GMT -5
I don't and have never found anything about him enjoyable.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 4, 2013 17:32:46 GMT -5
He's like Harvey Birdman in this clip and let's say Phil is like John Cena and the girl is random Diva # 17.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jan 4, 2013 17:45:03 GMT -5
I think Zack Ryder has become rather embarrassing. While I give the guy an incredible amount of props and respect for doing his damndest to get somewhere, I think he sucks I like the guy. I want the guy to succeed, but the gimmick is very flimsy and lacks any sort of depth. He's a goofball with ugly colors and a weak gimmick, but his whining is now getting annoying. The positives are that he's alright in the ring, really wants it, and has some talent. He's just not getting there as the "Broski". I voted really sad. *re-reads OP again...* Doesn't sound like you do.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 4, 2013 17:47:12 GMT -5
I think Zack Ryder has become rather embarrassing. While I give the guy an incredible amount of props and respect for doing his damndest to get somewhere, I think he sucks I like the guy. I want the guy to succeed, but the gimmick is very flimsy and lacks any sort of depth. He's a goofball with ugly colors and a weak gimmick, but his whining is now getting annoying. The positives are that he's alright in the ring, really wants it, and has some talent. He's just not getting there as the "Broski". I voted really sad. *re-reads OP again...* Doesn't sound like you do. Oh I get you. It reads very negatively, but that is to his persona currently. I get that WWE really helped put him in this spot, but I also think that this is a gimmick to nowhere. I'd like to see him get really pissed off (kayfabe) and rage and be very violent, or as violent as PG will let him.
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Post by Legion on Jan 4, 2013 17:59:02 GMT -5
He passed 'sad' a while ago and entered the firm territory of whiny little bitch
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 4, 2013 18:01:58 GMT -5
What's Sad Long Ryder Island doing in the Impact Zone...
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 4, 2013 18:05:19 GMT -5
I was talking about this before, where Ryder and Robbie E flipped in their view on the boards. Is it really over Ryder's attitude on twitter?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 18:08:32 GMT -5
Every time I see this subject come up, I think "if people went through the downfall Zack's gone through, they'd be whining so much that sad Zack would look jolly and chipper in comparison."
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Post by Cela on Jan 4, 2013 18:09:13 GMT -5
Sitting in a dark room blowing a candle out on top of a small piece of cake because Mitochondria have reclaimed your wife sad.
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 4, 2013 18:13:31 GMT -5
Every time I see this subject come up, I think "if people went through the downfall Zack's gone through, they'd be whining so much that sad Zack would look jolly and chipper in comparison." Yeah but you don't publicly go on twitter and youtube and air your grievances WWE hates when you do that and he should know better. It was immature. If the WWE thought he had "it" he wouldn't of dropped that US title so fast.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 4, 2013 19:08:59 GMT -5
Every time I see this subject come up, I think "if people went through the downfall Zack's gone through, they'd be whining so much that sad Zack would look jolly and chipper in comparison." Yeah but you don't publicly go on twitter and youtube and air your grievances WWE hates when you do that and he should know better. It was immature. If the WWE thought he had "it" he wouldn't of dropped that US title so fast. Agreed, and it's weird. Ryder seems more intent on being upset on Twitter and his show than trying to add some depth to his character to maybe get some more TV time.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 4, 2013 19:10:00 GMT -5
He passed 'sad' a while ago and entered the firm territory of whiny little bitch Thankfully for him, "whiny little bitch" is only about 65% of the way to "Matt Hardy", so he still has time to turn it around.
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Post by Waffel113 on Jan 4, 2013 19:14:38 GMT -5
"MR RYDER THAT'S NOT WISE!"
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Post by woowoowoox on Jan 4, 2013 19:15:30 GMT -5
He's no different than he was a year ago as far as the "whining" is concerned. He stopped when he got on TV and now he's doing it again because he's off TV.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 19:24:42 GMT -5
He passed 'sad' a while ago and entered the firm territory of whiny little bitch Thankfully for him, "whiny little bitch" is only about 65% of the way to "Matt Hardy", so he still has time to turn it around. Fortunately it's physically impossible to reach Matt Hardy levels without actually being Matt Hardy. So Zack is safe for now.
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Post by Chip on Jan 4, 2013 19:26:46 GMT -5
It's like he can't seem to grasp that his gimmick will always make him a comedy jobber. That gimmick doesn't win world titles or main event Wrestlemania. Zack is lucky he had that one career defining moment with his US title win as there's a whole lot of the roster who don't even have that and are way worse off then Ryder. Be grateful of what you got Zack because your accomplishments far outweigh your talent............. that and I can never look at you the same since that jelly doughnut story.
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 4, 2013 19:31:04 GMT -5
The new Matt Hardy, pre-Fatt Hardy.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Jan 4, 2013 19:33:46 GMT -5
His inability to convincingly act is what really soured his already loose chances of making it. People often say Kofi isn't that great of a talker, but he sounds genuine and confident, and that's what gives him the edge over half of people on the mic. On the contrary, I never believe a damn thing Ryder says, as it sounds like he's constantly acting. Not saying he's necessarily a "bad talker" - he can be witty, funny and have something to say, but if it's all goofy and canned, it can only sell t-shirts...not events.
I'll say this though, I was pulling for Zack in 2011 because the guy TRIED. He really, honestly tried to change his fate from a Superstars nobody, and he got over on his own. I'm glad he did despite never really being a fan of his. I was happy as hell to see him win the US title, and I think it's pathetic when they keep him off tv in his home town just because he's so over there. But otherwise, he's kind of where he belongs right now - the goofy guy who gets to be on Raw sometimes, who no longer has to worry about being let go. By all means, if he steps up and finds a new shtick or adapts on the current one, hell yeah give him another shot. But again, he's fine where he's at right now with all things considered.
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