MasonK565
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Post by MasonK565 on Jan 22, 2013 20:34:48 GMT -5
I am all for lynching inactives. I don't really like the idea of waiting for someone to replace them, as most of the time, they post the least amount of posts to get by.
And there is usually good info after a lynch for us to work on.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jan 22, 2013 20:42:15 GMT -5
Let's see:
If we have 3 Mafia and 8 town: If we mislynch a townie and scum gets a successful NK that puts us at 3 scum and 6 town. If we botch day 2's lynch and scum hits again that puts us at 3 vs 4 (LyLo) on day 3.
If we have 2 Mafia and 9 town: Day one townie lynch and NK puts us at 2 vs 7 on day 2. Town lynch and NK puts us at 2 vs 5 day 3. Another town lynch and NK brings us to 2 vs 3 and LyLo day 4.
4 Mafia would put us at LyLo on day 2 with a mislynch today so i highly doubt we're looking at that many scum.
with 2 or 3 scum i believe we still need a lynch today so we will have information to analyze on day 2.
And while ritt makes a good point, i'm against lynching an inactive. If scum tries to pull that won't they get modkilled?
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 22, 2013 20:44:22 GMT -5
I don't know if an inactive is the way to go.
I think just picking a random player and voting to lynch him would be the best bet but the problem remains who would be the target of the lynch?
When is the deadline for this phase?
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Post by RKTaker on Jan 22, 2013 20:48:12 GMT -5
Let's see: If we have 3 Mafia and 8 town: If we mislynch a townie and scum gets a successful NK that puts us at 3 scum and 6 town. If we botch day 2's lynch and scum hits again that puts us at 3 vs 4 (LyLo) on day 3. If we have 2 Mafia and 9 town: Day one townie lynch and NK puts us at 2 vs 7 on day 2. Town lynch and NK puts us at 2 vs 5 day 3. Another town lynch and NK brings us to 2 vs 3 and LyLo day 4. 4 Mafia would put us at LyLo on day 2 with a mislynch today so i highly doubt we're looking at that many scum. with 2 or 3 scum i believe we still need a lynch today so we will have information to analyze on day 2. And while ritt makes a good point, i'm against lynching an inactive. If scum tries to pull that won't they get modkilled? i think we have 3 mafia at least i'm not saying not to lynch this day phase i just don't know if lynching an inactive is the right way to go
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 21:25:02 GMT -5
Alright, I just read through the thread and everything.
I don't mind lynching on day one but the last few times we lynched an inactive, it bit the town in the ass. Instead, this day phase, I say we all come up with a decent suspect, if we can, and go from there.
Now, in Space Ghost, we had 13 people and 4 mafia. In this game, we have 11 people so I'm thinking 3 mafia. A godfather, maybe a roleblocker, and a goon.
I think with my posting, we've heard from everyone as well.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jan 22, 2013 21:45:07 GMT -5
Right now, no one is really screaming potential Mafia to me. I think we might have to go with a random pick unless scum really makes a huge mistake
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 21:56:37 GMT -5
Well, according to this
The day phase ends on Monday, January 28 10:00 am central.
We have just about a week to make our decision. Let's take our time and make a rational decision instead of rushing it in our excitement and killing someone we could really have used later.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jan 22, 2013 22:04:50 GMT -5
Well, according to this The day phase ends on Monday, January 28 10:00 am central. We have just about a week to make our decision. Let's take our time and make a rational decision instead of rushing it in our excitement and killing someone we could really have used later. agreed
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Big Bad Brad
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 22, 2013 23:30:50 GMT -5
you know what since there are no claiming restrictions in this game
I'm Boss Nass Vanilla Townie
My PM didn't say I was vanilla for say but you can tell that's what I am just read my PM
You are Boss Nass, is the supreme ruler and council head of Otoh Gunga on Naboo. You will do whatever it takes to protect your home and your people.
Your goal is to help the town find and lynch all that threaten the safety of the universe. You win when all of the town threats have been eliminated.
No one can yell at me for posting this read the rules posting Role PMs is fine in this game.
If anybody else posts a PM they could be fabricating it and come on with the new rule for this game
c. No claiming restrictions are in play -- sns special
You knew someone was going to be the first to try it out and be honest you knew it would be me Mr. I'm the town skitzo in the Space Ghost Mafia game Mr. I'm the Jack of all Trades in Music Mafia you make it to where I can legally reveal my role PM without getting modkilled you know I would do it.
I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia members were given a fake PM they can claim so they can post their role PM if they had to so no one would know they were mafia just going by the rules in this game would only seem fair to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 23:39:26 GMT -5
c. No claiming restrictions are in play -- sns specialI wouldn't be surprised if the mafia members were given a fake PM they can claim so they can post their role PM if they had to so no one would know they were mafia just going by the rules in this game would only seem fair to me. I don't pretend to understand all the Mafia rules since I never hosted a game and only have the basic gist of an understanding but considering what's in play, that does sound possible. For all we know, you might be fake claiming already just to divert attention off of you. I'm watching you Brad.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Jan 22, 2013 23:42:39 GMT -5
And that was the thing I wasn't that enthusiastic for. I liked the ability to role/identity claim when my back is against the wall, but I was fearing that people would go about it the way Kami did. Is it legal? Yeah. Is it cheap? In my eyes, yeah. People can do what they want, but I just wanted to throw my two cents in when it comes to character/role claiming. Good as a last necessity. Nice to have as a way to possible use a vanilla to disguise our cop/doctor. But as a first action? Not my favorite thing in the world. ...And yeah I do understand and expect to get some heat now for saying this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 23:45:59 GMT -5
...And yeah I do understand and expect to get some heat now for saying this. I totally agree with you, I'm not going to role claim until it's absolutely necessary. If we all role claim now, it'll just be mass chaos. Then everyone will focus more on the roles and who could be lying, who couldn't be lying, and it'll take all the focus off the scum.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 22, 2013 23:49:46 GMT -5
And that was the thing I wasn't that enthusiastic for. I liked the ability to role/identity claim when my back is against the wall, but I was fearing that people would go about it the way Kami did. Is it legal? Yeah. Is it cheap? In my eyes, yeah. People can do what they want, but I just wanted to throw my two cents in when it comes to character/role claiming. Good as a last necessity. Nice to have as a way to possible use a vanilla to disguise our cop/doctor. But as a first action? Not my favorite thing in the world. ...And yeah I do understand and expect to get some heat now for saying this. You know it is possible that I faked the PM I can honestly tell you I didn't if anybody is going to be the first to Role claim its going to be me and I knew of all the people in the game you would be the one to object to it I know how you are as a player, I'm not calling you out as mafia I just know you to well in these games.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 22, 2013 23:50:50 GMT -5
I don't expect everybody to roleclaim but damn it I wanted some excitement in this game where role claiming is allowed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 23:54:54 GMT -5
It's the first day, how much excitement do you need?
Anyway, I've been apart of something like four or five games now. We've used roleclaiming in every single one but Space Ghost, which Brad roleclaimed in, and I have to say, despite the rules on this one, I enjoyed Space Ghost more then any other game due to the fact that we actually focused on who was town and who was scum more then who was who.
I just don't want this game to devolve into a week long argument over the pros and cons of roleclaiming. WE HAVE SCUM TO CATCH!
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jan 23, 2013 0:05:07 GMT -5
I'm not roleclaiming unless absolutely necessary. That's all I'll say on that subject
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 23, 2013 0:12:10 GMT -5
I'm not going to apologize for role claiming I wanted to make a point if this is the rules SnS wants to make in this game then I'm going to be the first to go with it and show you what happens when being able to post Role PMs is allowed besides what difference does it make if I post it during Day 3 when I'm about to be lynched or post it now when I'm not even a target for a lynching either way I'm not getting lynched unless you all don't believe my role PM then I say go ahead and lynch me what have you got to lose besides a vanilla townie.
I don't think this rule should be allowed in any other mafia games after this one, I like it better when we are not allowed to quote Role PMs
So am I being a hypocrite by saying that I prefer it when we are not allowed to quote Role PMs when I was the first to quote my role PM? Not at all if its within the rules I don't mind quoting my Role PM I just prefer not to have the right to do so but if I do have the right I'm going to do it does that make sense?
And I don't want anybody else copying my style so please everybody else don't reveal your Role PMs unless its absolutely necessary.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jan 23, 2013 0:14:06 GMT -5
*switches channel*
Now, how do we go about choosing who to lynch today?
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Post by TOO SWEET on Jan 23, 2013 0:16:58 GMT -5
Good call, produce.
We have eleven so we obviously have to be careful about doing it, but after giving it some more thought, I do agree with others that we do need to lynch.
Because if we don't, mafia can just pick whoever, and we'll still be stuck in the Day One "Don't have a clue what to do" situation.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Jan 23, 2013 0:19:13 GMT -5
EBWOP: Meant to add some names/ideas but I clicked post (not preview)
Some have said random but I don't really know how we do that, so most likely we'll turn to activity/inactivity.
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