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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Jul 8, 2013 22:16:51 GMT -5
It's because Husky Harris is easy to chant. There's a reason nobody chants "Michael McGillicutty" at Axel.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 8, 2013 22:17:32 GMT -5
It wouldn't be hard at all to transition the characters though.
"That's what THEY called me before my eyes were opened, I was once like you, a sheep, lost and following along; but I have answered the riddle, and I see the truth. I have been reborn through blood and fire and have become what you see before you now. Chant that name if you wish, it is the name of a dead man, a lost little lamb that had to be slaughtered to light the way, but I am the man who has his eyes open, the taunts of the blind are meaningless, and one by one, your eyes will be open too.."
Or something thereabouts. Just one promo to bury the past and show this is a different guy. Easy.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jul 8, 2013 22:17:38 GMT -5
Yeah!
They should have been "singing" Fandango's theme instead or chanting for Daniel Bryan for no reason.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 8, 2013 22:18:02 GMT -5
That may be true, but he didn't really do anything that was that memorable. The only thing I remember Husky Harris actually doing was that one time on Raw when he stared directly into the camera. That's it. I believe he was also in the Royal Rumble when the New Nexus was still somewhat of a thing, but I don't remember anything he did in that either. His look was unique, I'll give you that, but I still don't think that I would've known it was the same person, at least right away. I remember two things about Husky Harris: 1. Getting whipped by a leather belt as an initiation into New Nexus. That one explains why he is the way he is now.It's all Punks fault.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 8, 2013 22:18:49 GMT -5
This is the other side of the "creative chanting crowd" phenomenon that's bandied about since ECW and showed up on the post WM Raws as of late such as the most recent one. When they go into business for themselves, yeah it can make things cool and funny; but it can just as easily take on out of the moment. Something to remember.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jul 8, 2013 22:18:52 GMT -5
I don't see why this is a big deal at all.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jul 8, 2013 22:19:24 GMT -5
Nobody chanted Isaac Yankem though. Sad. Because back then people paid the money to enjoy the show, not be smarky douchebags. I was referring to tonight. I was hoping for a counter chant.
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Post by OGJB is Slender on Jul 8, 2013 22:19:23 GMT -5
What bugs me is that the very people that cheered him showing up are most likely the ones that were chanting. If you were into something, why seek to undercut it like that? It's counterproductive.
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Post by mizerable on Jul 8, 2013 22:19:28 GMT -5
Michael Richards can't go anywhere without people yelling Kramer at him. It's hard to escape ones past in the entertainment business. Yeah, this has to be echoed. As annoying as it can get, and yes...it can get annoying, it's just the nature of the beast. They probably shouldn't have given him a name they can chant to begin with. Ever hear a Michael McGillicuty chant? I didn't think so!
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 8, 2013 22:19:34 GMT -5
Snarky posts that bitch about people chanting things like these and using wrestlers' past names (i.e., Matt Sydal instead of Evan Bourne) are even more annoying and unlikable than those activities in the first place. I mean, why do people have to pretend past characters didn't exist if it's the same guy in a different role on the same show and the change is never explained or addressed on-screen? Transition these guys logically and acknowledge their pasts and it wouldn't be such a big deal. That's just how entertainment works, though. You don't go see Sherlock Holmes and expect to see an Iron Man reference just because the main character is played by the same guy. Could WWE acknowledge Husky Harris? Sure, they did it with Curtis Axel. But the concept of playing different characters certainly isn't unique to wrestling.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 8, 2013 22:19:41 GMT -5
This could potentially ruin the gimmick, but they won't be going anywhere, from what I've seen in developmental they're too good to go down again. What's going to happen though is you're going to have a guy who primarily should be an on the mic guy with his stable be reduced to mid card filler matches with no mic time or sent to Smackdown where they can control the audience. Like I said, I see nothing wrong with this. The Wyatt Family doesn't have to be a "OMG The Fate of the Entire WWE is At Stake!!!! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!!" mega stable. WWE NEEDS to start building up a midcard and The Wyatt Family would be the perfect guys to build the midcard around. Part of the problem with WWE nowadays is that they're trying to make too many people into "big deals". The roster is too top heavy, which makes everyone else look that much weaker by comparison, because everyone who isn't a "main eventer" is made out to be a jobber. Trying to make the Wyatt Family a "big deal fairly quick" will only make it worse. Try to push the Family to the moon, and then there's nowhere to go except for hotshotting Bray to a World Title or stopping his momentum cold. And we'd either be complaining that he got the belt "too soon" (like Swagger), or that he's been "buried" because he isn't a World Champion and won't be any time soon (like Cody Rhodes).
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Post by mizerable on Jul 8, 2013 22:21:07 GMT -5
Nobody chanted Isaac Yankem though. Sad. Because back then people paid the money to enjoy the show, not be smarky douchebags. Right. Mmmmhmmm. Sure. They certainly didn't chant Moondog at the original Demolition Smash. Nah, the crowds back then were civilized!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 22:21:31 GMT -5
But really, in a way, aren't we all "Husky Harris?" *steps forward* I'm Husky Harris.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 8, 2013 22:23:52 GMT -5
I don't think we need multiple threads on a crowd chant, so all discussion on our new favorite psychobillies goes here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 22:24:11 GMT -5
Nope. That's a completely different context, as that's not the character he was introduced as and pushed as for months in front of live audiences and a national TV audience. Believe it or not, some casual fans aren't complete rubes and have memories that last longer than five minutes. When you get a guy who has a character, take him off the show for a while and bring him back, don't expect people to forget who he was, and don't expect them to pretend that he's a different guy, especially since the change has been brought about with no explanation whatsoever. So don't expect wrestling fans to be wrestling fans of old but a new snark ire bunch? It is only a decades old practice of replacing guys without telling that they used to be here under a different name. Hell, that was a part of the fun for the longest. And there's your problem, right there. An outdated, outmoded business practice that was instituted before the rise of social media (and most forms of digital media at all, for that matter) seems to not be working in 2013? Well color me shocked. This is just another holdover from the carnie era that needs to go. But yeah, fans are much snarkier. Twenty years ago a CM Punk character would've been booed out of the building. Now many fans think they're counterculture and edgy by supporting that same guy and think him so much as farting is utter brilliance. Whether you like it or not, that's the fanbase now. Times have changed, and the business practices need to change too.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 8, 2013 22:24:29 GMT -5
There's one difference between Tensai and Wyatt. Bray Wyatt is not Husky Harris in WWE canon. Tensai IS Albert, and they never said he wasn't. Yeah, they went as far as saying he was, even. I think they first vaguely said he was a former WWE star who went to train in Japan and eventually had Santino call him Albert. Yeah, first night on TV they said former WWE star that conquered Japan and is back now. On the website they referred to him as Albert immediately. It wasn't meant to be a secret
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 8, 2013 22:25:59 GMT -5
It's because Husky Harris is easy to chant. There's a reason nobody chants "Michael McGillicutty" at Axel. Because Curtis Axel IS Michael McGillicutty.
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Post by mizerable on Jul 8, 2013 22:28:06 GMT -5
It's because Husky Harris is easy to chant. There's a reason nobody chants "Michael McGillicutty" at Axel. Because Curtis Axel IS Michael McGillicutty. Ummm...that doesn't matter. The crowd enjoys giving a person crap over his former incarnation, it's been happening for decades. How would one do a Michael McGillicutty chant? It wouldn't work out too well.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jul 8, 2013 22:28:38 GMT -5
I don't see why this is a big deal at all. Because some people get upset that a gimmick that they are emotionally invested in, especially if they've been following the Wyatt family on NXT, doesn't get the audience reaction that people at home, and more specifically people on this board, feel it deserves. The same can be said for people who don't like it when faces are booed and heels are cheered by the television audience, when audiences either follow the script of the storyline, when they don't behave how audiences are supposed to, try to get themselves over at the expense of the show and the in-ring talent, and so on and so forth.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 22:28:50 GMT -5
I don't see why this is a big deal at all. That's because it's not. The internet is for overreacting and porn and apparently the porn sites are down at the moment.
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